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Old 25-01-2008, 05:50
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15 years of GHB

The following was composed by SWIM and is a first-person account of his experiences with GHB, a drug he has been ingesting fairly regularly for the last 15 years. Somehow he still manages to enjoy positively rude health.

“I was first introduced to this chemical by a bodybuilding friend in about 1992.
Back then a tub of pharmacy-grade, light and fluffy GHB could be bought from supplement firm Chemical Warfare for about £40.
A heaped teaspoon readily dissolved in hot water to give a euphoric high that lasted about an hour-and-half.

Now, while a lot of people seem to have some difficulty in conveying the GHB experience (my friends at least), what I tell newbies is that it is like the best bits of all the other drugs they have tried, but with none of the bad bits or a comedown.
It’s like say, half an E, a touch of diazepam and a smidgeon of speed.

Even if it’s past your bedtime and you are not really in the mood to get high, swallowing a dose will soon energise you and change your mind.
For me, it used to come on with a tingling in my lower legs, which then gave way to a warm glow that seemed to shroud my body like the ReadyBrek heat outline (at the moment the euphoria has been replaced by a sedative effect, but a period of abstinence will sort that out).

Like alcohol, once the feeling begins, it relaxes you into the rest of the experience, and, even if you do not particularly like where the drug is taking you, just close your eyes and sleep won’t be long in happening.
Unless you are sick on it, which seems to happen in about half of users. I have never honked up.

GHB increases empathy, talkativeness, motivation and appetite.
Also unlike E, there is no time-accelerating effect. With E, you drop, an hour speeds by and before you know it, it’s time to drop again.
However, with GHB, an hour seems to last the full duration, or more.

Another advantage over E is that the high can be successfully ‘chased’.
Whereas with E, successive pills produce fewer desired effects and more undesirable side effects, subsequent doses of GHB get you right back up there.

In fact, slightly lower doses are actually a good idea, else you risk passing out.

Balance is progressively affected by stronger doses, evoking scenes that make it look like the Klingons are attacking and you are traversing a pitching Enterprise bridge.
Eyes take a hit too and often it becomes hard to focus as each eye seems to want to look at something different. The solution to this is to simply cover one eye and everything immediately beings to make more sense.

Once you are stepping over your ideal level of intoxication, blinks start to last somewhat longer. Seconds, then minutes, then hours.
The funny thing is, when woken, you’ll swear that no time has elapsed and that your watch must be lying.

Paradoxically, GHB passes the mirror test. Unlike with E, dope and booze, when you look in the mirror you don’t look wasted while on GHB. I generally look not too bad and this is utterly at odds with how sideways I often feel.

I even occasionally have a small (repeat small) dose, plug in my earphones and go running. It makes the music sound great, helps me tune out from the world around, increases endurance and decrease fatigue.
The only negative thing I can repost as far as an adjunct to aerobic exercise is that you sweat bit more. Quite a lot more. Like a gimp in a sauna, in fact.
One word of caution is to know your dose, otherwise you risk the whole world staring at you as you navigate in wavy lines with your eyes half closed.

In stark contrast to all its positive effects, out of all the chemicals I have consumed, GHB is the one with the most potential for harm.
Unlike most other drugs, overdose is very easy and often accomplished completely accidentally.

Whereas with alcohol, drinking a bit too much will get you a bit more drunk, and with E, double-dunting will make gravity pull even harder on your face, having double your personal dose will render you unconscious.
Note that I say unconscious and not dead.
Although this may not sound too serious, it potentially is as users can become utterly wakeable – a condition not seen with say booze, dope, E, coke or speed.

This can be truly alarming for someone who finds you (a parent, perhaps) and rightfully so, easily warranting the summoning of and ambulance of a trip to A&E.
Such a scenario befell a good friend, himself an experienced user, who, unwittingly simply took too much before engaging his mum in conversation.
The GHB really took effect as he was walking across his livingroom and made him sink to his knees and pass out – all as him mum looked on with understandable alarm.
His dad ended up slapping him about and had picked up a phone to dial 999 when my buddy responded to further slaps with laughter.
My pal later made a full recovery, had some explaining to do and was hit with a barrage of probing questions as to where he had come by whatever compound had caused his mid-stride collapse.

Another friend who overdosed did not even waken when a cigarette he was smoking burned right down between his fingers and took the skin off.
Had he been awake, this would have been excruciating, so the lesson to take here is that, even if the cigarette had set his house ablaze, he still would have not woken. Not good.

One strange thing GHB has induced in me several times is sleep paralysis.
Sleep paralysis happens every time you nod off, with the brain shutting down your muscles so you don’t enact your dreams.
Generally the switch off occurs after your fall asleep.
However, it’s a particularly weird experience when you’re sitting in a chair, eyes closed, motionless, frantically willing your arms to move and shouting in your head.
It’s disconcerting the first time, but when you recognise it for what it is, you learn that it will soon pass and give way to sleep.
Many cultures have myths associated with sleep paralysis and generally involve small imps sitting on your chest and sucking your life away, or alien abduction.

Really folks, this stuff is one of the most positive drugs you can take, but you have got to give it the respect it deserves, else end up in hospital, or put someone else there.
And if that happens, the cops/docs/parents will want too know where they got the stuff.

Peace."

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  Welcome to the forum, SWIY's years of experience will be welcome but please always try and be balanced and objective.
  
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Old 25-01-2008, 08:32
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Re: 15 years of GHB

Ok, thanks for the post but we are somewhat reluctant to provide such seemingly rave reviews for a drug so, whilst there are a number of things that SWIM does agree with I think it is important to also highlight some of the things that you raise in order to remind people of a more balanced aspect of GHB use.

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A heaped teaspoon readily dissolved in hot water to give a euphoric high that lasted about an hour-and-half.


Heaped teaspoon is not recommended. A substance such as GHB whether in powdered form or liquid *must* be dosed with greater accuracy than that.

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Another advantage over E is that the high can be successfully ‘chased’.
Whereas with E, successive pills produce fewer desired effects and more undesirable side effects, subsequent doses of GHB get you right back up there.

In fact, slightly lower doses are actually a good idea, else you risk passing out.
Lower doses are essential beyond a certain point of an evening on G. In fact, there is a point where, if the user is trying to chase a peak high, they will invariably redose and be rendered unconscious.

Remember redosing stimulants will wire a user up more, but redosing GHB to the wrong degree *will* knock a user out.

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I even occasionally have a small (repeat small) dose, plug in my earphones and go running.
And repeat again, small. Very small. Do *NOT* go out near traffic if intending to ingest GHB.

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In stark contrast to all its positive effects, out of all the chemicals I have consumed, GHB is the one with the most potential for harm.
Unlike most other drugs, overdose is very easy and often accomplished completely accidentally.
Quite right, although there is, as SWIY knows a big difference between a simple over-done dose and the bullshit media's(tm) interpretation of an overdose!

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potentially is as users can become utterly unwakeable – a condition not seen with say booze, dope, E, coke or speed.

This can be truly alarming for someone who finds you (a parent, perhaps) and rightfully so, easily warranting the summoning of and ambulance of a trip to A&E.
As we REPEATEDLY state around here folks.

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Really folks, this stuff is one of the most positive drugs you can take, but you have got to give it the respect it deserves, else end up in hospital, or put someone else there.
And if that happens, the cops/docs/parents will want too know where they got the stuff.

Peace."
Amen.
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Old 25-01-2008, 09:07
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Re: 15 years of GHB

Hey, MrG.

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Ok, thanks for the post but we are somewhat reluctant to provide such seemingly rave reviews for a drug so, whilst there are a number of things that SWIM does agree with I think it is important to also highlight some of the things that you raise in order to remind people of a more balanced aspect of GHB use.
SWIM replies:
You're right.
I do sound like I'm on commission for the GHB Advertising Board.
Sorry if I came across a little too evangelical.
But this is my truth.
Just wait until you get a load of my nitrous and acid tales!
And do you really think my GHB usage/perspective is unbalanced?
Glad you did agree with a number of things, though, as you're not called MrG for nowt!

Peace
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Meant to ask, MrG, have you been touched by His Noodly Appendage?
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Old 25-01-2008, 09:47
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Re: 15 years of GHB

LOL, His Noodly Appendage touched me a while back. It has now also touched the back of my car and also my keychain as I have sought to curry favour with him through merchandise!

BTW, hate to go all uptight on you again, but please try an avoid back to back to back posting. I know that you cannot edit your posts until you are a silver member but it's best to avoid the habit in the meantime.

I personally believe that SWIY has a good handle on exactly what GHB is about but he has to remember that this is a public forum where it is common for exciteable noobs to scan a posting that they think is giving them the green light for recklessly abusing a substance and they miss the parts that advise caution.

Although it can seem tiresome to repeatedly have to issue the same cautions over and over in different threads we have to accept that new users may miss a lot of relevant information from older topics.
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No back-to-back posting: check.
Consider the excitable noobs (of which SWIM is one): check.

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Quite right, although there is, as SWIY knows a big difference between a simple over-done dose and the bullshit media's(tm) interpretation of an overdose!
Speaking of BS Media (TM), writes SWIM, here’s another steaming pile of it that really grinds my gears - the demonisation of GHB as a date rate drug.
This is nonsense.
It has become popular, the Government wants it banned, so now everybody’s getting raped on it.
Crappola!

One probe into over 1000 allegations of date rape found about half of the complainers had, unsurprisingly, consumed the No. 1 date rape drug of choice, namely good ol’ legal alcohol.

A fair spectrum of many other drugs was often found in the alcohol date rapees, but GHB was found in only two cases.
Further, given GHB’s extreme dodginess when mixed with alcohol, is anyone who has access to this drug likely to want to risk killing someone just so they can rape them?
Apart from necrophiliacs, of course.

And here’s the fuel to the fire, sprayed on by a gullible public… if a man wakes up next to a girl who, the next morning is much less attractive than she had been the night before when he was very drunk, he makes a hasty exit and thinks to himself, “Man, I must have been pissed.”
However, if a girl (not all girls, of course) now wakes up next to a man she finds rather hideous, she may well cry date rape.

Rant over.

And relax.

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oops!!

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Re: 15 years of GHB

I love the "pitching Enterprise bridge" comparison. My mate who knows a bit about this stuff has been there on numerous occasions.

Thanks for sharing this retrospective look back at SWIY's G years. I'm looking forward to hearing about his nitrous and LSD memories.
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