Health - Taking Lsd When You Are Depressed?

[chasingthedragon]

hi all i have never posted before but all way reading this forum i am 19 and was woundering if some one could maybe help me out...



swim was a big mdma fan and hit it hard regually allso a bit of weed to help sleep swim has had deppreshion most swims life but feel that takeing zoloft had no efect swim has read that mdma can corse deppreshion so swim stoped with mdma and tryed a microdot swim was home by swims self and loved it swim was so with it in terms of terning swims life around for the better but wene it wore off swim was the same old person swim then tryed bord lsd twise more later and ended up in very streesfull sitouations and was never the same swim is now prescribed efexor-xr has been for 2 weeks wich is apareantlly how long it takes for it to kick in but last weekend swim wend partying and had two e's and bord lsd and some alchole and had every freind there and HAVE NEVER HAD THAT MUCH FUN IN SWIMS LIFE!!!!!!! dancind and stuff with swim has never done and a week from now swim feel GREAT from that night(or two it lasted so long lol) i look on life with a very possitive attachod and heve confedense and just love life wich was the very opposite befor that night my point is do you think it was from the lsd and great time thats made this maggor change or just the efexor xr swim personlly thinks it was lsd.

and a nother thing do you think if swim was to take lsd again by it self in a happy enviroment(home by my lelf) would it chang swims outlook on life (make me deppresd again with i really do not want) or should swim leave it wile the goings good? or would swim just be happy and trip for a wile and stay the same maybe even beter myself? that would be a bonus!

thank you so much for your time and any comments would be appresheated and sorry about the spelling

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bringing faith that depression can end and that acid is good for you. *hug*

[Nagognog2]

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[Nature Boy]

I don't think anyone can answer your questions definitively. There are too many different factors in play. Recreational drugs like MDMA and LSD have been known to boost mood, even days after use, and lower depression levels. However, the opposite is also true in some cases. It all depends on the individual chemical levels in every person's brain, also how they perceive these drugs to work on them. If SWIY's LSD use has resulted in improving his mindset then congratulations. If they decide to use LSD again, just tread carefully and don't spoil the state of mind SWIY has achieved.

[stoneinfocus]

Yea, dito, if it´s great now, leaev it unattached, LSD should be taken, if you ask swim, not more than 1-3 times a year even less often, the milage of others may vary, but that´s just swim´s opinion.

It´s all about your perception, how good the drug itself is ( maybe if swiy has a source for blotters, stock up on them put them in foil and into the dark fridge to have some for the next years to come) and what you make of it later on... you can learn a year long from one trip or longer, but that shouldn´t mean not taking another one if you def. feel like it, after a longer trip-break.

[iw2gf]

Originally Posted by chasingthedragon

hi all i have never posted before but all way reading this forum i am 19 and was woundering if some one could maybe help me out...



swim was a big mdma fan and hit it hard regually allso a bit of weed to help sleep swim has had deppreshion most swims life but feel that takeing zoloft had no efect swim has read that mdma can corse deppreshion so swim stoped with mdma and tryed a microdot swim was home by swims self and loved it swim was so with it in terms of terning swims life around for the better but wene it wore off swim was the same old person swim then tryed bord lsd twise more later and ended up in very streesfull sitouations and was never the same swim is now prescribed efexor-xr has been for 2 weeks wich is apareantlly how long it takes for it to kick in but last weekend swim wend partying and had two e's and bord lsd and some alchole and had every freind there and HAVE NEVER HAD THAT MUCH FUN IN SWIMS LIFE!!!!!!! dancind and stuff with swim has never done and a week from now swim feel GREAT from that night(or two it lasted so long lol) i look on life with a very possitive attachod and heve confedense and just love life wich was the very opposite befor that night my point is do you think it was from the lsd and great time thats made this maggor change or just the efexor xr swim personlly thinks it was lsd.

and a nother thing do you think if swim was to take lsd again by it self in a happy enviroment(home by my lelf) would it chang swims outlook on life (make me deppresd again with i really do not want) or should swim leave it wile the goings good? or would swim just be happy and trip for a wile and stay the same maybe even beter myself? that would be a bonus!

thank you so much for your time and any comments would be appresheated and sorry about the spelling

Exercise great caution if you are depressed.
Swim know's somebody who has been in a depression for 17 years.

[chasingthedragon]

Originally Posted by iw2gf

Exercise great caution if you are depressed.
Swim know's somebody who has been in a depression for 17 years.

from lsd

[HallucinaJason]

swim to is a tripper with depression, and sick of being told by profentnals that its the drugs fault (swim loves his trips and holds them in great reguard) and to make a point has gone sober for a year (6 months 5 days since posting) inculding cigrets alchole (swim has drunk less then a shotglass this year out side of a party on jan when swim decided to throw liqor in with the sobrity) it has not helped.

im so fucking happy for you dude, you give me hope (gives props good kalma rep points and a hug)

[chasingthedragon]

Originally Posted by HallucinaJason

swim to is a tripper with depression, and sick of being told by profentnals that its the drugs fault (swim loves his trips and holds them in great reguard) and to make a point has gone sober for a year (6 months 5 days since posting) inculding cigrets alchole (swim has drunk less then a shotglass this year out side of a party on jan when swim decided to throw liqor in with the sobrity) it has not helped.

im so fucking happy for you dude, you give me hope (gives props good kalma rep points and a hug)

hay thanks man im happy i helped someone

[Coconut]

Hi all,

SWIM used to suffer from severe depression which was, shall we say, "cured" around this time last year. Since then, SWIM has not been depressed nor happy, just kind of feeling empty and emotionally numb, but generally content with life.

SWIM has been researching LSD, ketamine and mushrooms for a long time now and has decided to try the former. He has no experience with drugs other than alcohol and those obtained by prescription.

He plans to take it in a very comfortable and familiar place with a lot of happy memories (it's outdoors and away from cities). Accompanying him will be a close friend whom he trusts and who may or may not join him on this journey.

SWIM would like to know if anyone thinks he'd particularly susceptible to a bad trip if he takes LSD under these conditions. He'd seriously appreciate any advice anyone can give him, especially considering his history of emotional problems which he hopes have been left in the past.

[Degenik]

Originally Posted by c0c0nut

He plans to take it in a very comfortable and familiar place with a lot of happy memories (it's outdoors and away from cities). Accompanying him will be a close friend whom he trusts and who may or may not join him on this journey.

This here,what you wrote is backbone of every good LSD trip. Just tell SWIY to be carefull with dosing and sit back and enjoy.

Good luck

[Nature Boy]

Of the three substances mentioned, ketamine would seem to be a better option if one is looking for a therapeutic trip. LSD being a powerful psychedelic can be quite overwhelming even for an emotionally stable person, therefore it is not fully recommendable to people who suffer from depression. Tread carefully.

[Coconut]

SWIM appreciates both your advice. He may try ketamine in the near future. He feels confident in his current mental abilities and strength of will and he also says he'll take every precaution he can think of!

"Cheers." - SWIM

[Ontherooftops]

If SWIY has never taken a psychedelic drug he should probably start with marijuana first. Not that grass is particularly psychedelic, but it has some strong similarities and octopus thinks its sort of an important lead in to the psychedelic experience.

LSD is a very strong drug, and there's absolutely no way that someone unaccustomed to psychedlics could understand the effects that it will have. If SWIY is depressed, LSD might simply make the problem worse, it certainly has stirred up quite a bit of self doubt for octopus in the past.

Octopus thinks that mushrooms are good starting place for psychedelic drugs, they aren't so long lasting as 'cid and a lot easier to handle in general. Octopus' first cid experience was very intense, and very hard to deal with due to its duration (hey, he thought he was going to be in a safe setting for his trip, but it kept going long after he expected it to be over and he was forced to be in some rather unpleasant places). He couldn't imagine having to cope with that experience without having taken drugs before.

Ketamine is VERY addictive, be careful, octopus has seen some ruined by it.

If SWIY really just wants to jump right in to the psychedelic world though, and skip right to what Octopus would consider a "hard" psychedelic, perhaps he should look into mescaline cacti. Octopus finds cactus to be very kind, very introspective, and have a very positive effect on his outlook on life.

[Coconut]

SWIM has told me he just recently had an experience with marijuana which he described as relaxing, but he does not feel a desire to try it again.
He's told me that he has personally found it impossible to become addicted to anything; he has been prescribed some extremely addictive medications by doctors and still felt no addictive tendencies, but he will not underestimate the addictive potential of drugs such as ketamine, as unlikely as it is that he will end up trying it.

He'd informs me that he'd like to try mushrooms as a starting point with psychedelics if experienced users believe it'd help him get an idea of what LSD would be like. He was also previously unaware of the mescaline content of some cacti and finds Octopus' advice about such cacti enlightening.

SWIM would also like to point out that he's no longer depressed, and the only fear he would have is that a psychedelic could dig up some bad memories from the past.

He says he wants me to thank octopus for the advice.

[redpoppy]

SWIY should be aware that one of the major potential downsides LSD can have is the potential for the user to induce a bad trip. This can happen to even stable people who try the drug but do not have the right mindset. It can most certainly happen to people who have a tendency towards mental illness as a humans body chemistry or psychological state can be or seem out of their own control.

I very mentally stable human with the correct mindset can control certain aspects of a trip. An emotionally or mentally unstable human can take a trip and experience a good or bad trip but come out better equiped to deal with their problem, similarly, people who may have a tendency towards emotional or mental illness can become somewhat unhinged.

LSD was used for years by pschologists to cure certain patients. IT has potential for good. HOwever it can be overwhelming for people without guidance.

If SWIY knows, understands and believes that it will be very different, that SWIY may feel overwhelmed and out of control and that they are safe and can control how their mind wanders or travels sometimes in directions or to places that may not be good and that you can redirect your energies and acknowledge certain hang ups or sticking points but move away or redirect to address later they should be fine. However as an individual they must take responsibility and understand the dangers. Take their time if need be. Don't rush.

If gaining knowledge and understanding the dangers SWIY decides SWIY definitely will be indulding in LSD SWIY should also know that LSD is for certain people one of teh most enlightening, fulfilling, strange and enjoyable experiences of tehir lives which helps them in many ways to appreciate many aspects of life and understanding.Things will look ugly and deformed, but things will also look breathtakingly beautiful. And giggles will be had.

But yeah, mind set and setting. As i'm sure you've heard repeated before many times. Is SWIY truly able to control their mind set?

P.S. Marijuana can potentially unhinge someone just as much as strong psychedelics can.

[chasingthedragon]

[quote=c0c0nut;282497]Hi all,

SWIM used to suffer from severe depression which was, shall we say, "cured" around this time last year. Since then, SWIM has not been depressed nor happy, just kind of feeling empty and emotionally numb, but generally content with life.

quote]

your not allown

[sportyjonas]

Is this a good idea or bad idea?

At the moment it feels like a REALLY good idea ..

any thougts or ?..

[podge]

Breaking one of the golden rules of psychedelia is a very bad idea. LSD will more than likely amplify the depression and not help it. ANY proper psychedelic resource on the planet will tell you this. Better off leaving it for an other day.

[sportyjonas]

Thats true.. But i really wanna do it right now,but as the rules says..

then i might just stick with my cannabis brownies..

[JCJC]

Swim suggests not to even think about it. It's just asking for a bad-trip.

[Lethargy]

Well... I've heard stories and I would tend to agree with the above posters, if one has to ask do not do it.

Although, if one intended to take the LSD and dive headfirst into depression, looking for the cause, embracing it and getting perspective on how to cure it I might say it could serve a useful purpose.

If one wants to take LSD to escape reality and forget about depression, forget it. Save it for a better time.

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[SuprSonik]

SWIM has taken LSD when depressed and he had a great time. It's much better if you have a friend with you too. But do be careful not to take a large dose, as that might be a little too much.

SWIM knows everyone says it's a bad idea, but he tried it anyway and was actually feeling better the next day. If SWIY decides to try it, let us know how it goes.

[JCJC]

Originally Posted by Lethargy

Although, if one intended to take the LSD and dive headfirst into depression, looking for the cause, embracing it and getting perspective on how to cure it I might say it could serve a useful purpose.

Swim would suggest the for the purpose stated above, Swiy might like to try salvia divinorum, as it can be very useful for revealing truths about ones state of mind, and also it has a lower "freakout" factor than acid. Swim is not slating the above poster, but would fear for himself if using the above method as he might have a very disturbing experience. Where acid can be very emotional, salvia is generally emotion free for Swim at least.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by JCJC

Swim would suggest the for the purpose stated above, Swiy might like to try salvia divinorum, as it can be very useful for revealing truths about ones state of mind, and also it has a lower "freakout" factor than acid. Swim is not slating the above poster, but would fear for himself if using the above method as he might have a very disturbing experience. Where acid can be very emotional, salvia is generally emotion free for Swim at least.

If swiy plans to explore the depths of their depression with the aid of a psychedelic, swim highly recommends they do their reading and heed the faults of past experiments, particularly dose-related.

[podge]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

If swiy plans to explore the depths of their depression with the aid of a psychedelic, swim highly recommends they do their reading and heed the faults of past experiments, particularly dose-related.

Very true, swim gained a lot of help from psychedelics when going through a bad patch last year, but swim can see how it might have made things worse had he not taken it in the right enviroment with the right people.

Be very cautious using psychedelics to treat the mental state, if it isnt done properly it can cause serious problems. Funnily enough, after swim had his "healing" trip he didnt touch major drugs for months after.....he reached a good outlook and didnt need drugs to help him maintain it which was comforting.

And as SHAMPOO said .... perhaps using trips to find the root cause of depression may be of use, but using trips to escape depression and have some fun for a few hours can potentially be a recipe for disaster.

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