Withdrawal symptoms?

[Tortoise]

Howdy Folks,

As most of you know, Noddy McNodson loves his codeine but has never binged for days on end to the point where he experiences true withdrawal symptoms such as flu-like symptoms, muscle aches, diarrhea etc. What he has noticed though, is that when he stops using after a few days of once-per-day use he gets a mild uneasiness and anxiety. It feels like it's emanating from his abdomen and it reminds him of the feeling he gets after a nitrous binge. It's certainly not painful, just mildly uncomfortable and makes him too edgy to sleep. It's usually worst on the third day off.

Is this just a very mild withdrawal? Has anybody else noticed this?

[Melalicious]

swim says she notices she gets the flu like symptoms, and definatly gets the uneasiness and anxiety, but its like that with most "addictive" things, like smoking etc etc!

would be good to hear from some more people about it

[SuprSonik]

SWIM thinks that those symptoms sound like a mild withdrawal from the codeine; SWIM has experienced similar effects from 3-4 times-a-week opioid use, including codeine. If it's not bothersome enough to make you want to reduce your usage of codeine, then it's probably nothing to worry about. Just remember that indulging in any more than you are right now will almost certainly give you stronger withdrawal symptoms and possibly lead to addiction. Never push your luck with opiates.

[Tortoise]

Originally Posted by SuprSonik

SWIM thinks that those symptoms sound like a mild withdrawal from the codeine; SWIM has experienced similar effects from 3-4 times-a-week opioid use, including codeine. If it's not bothersome enough to make you want to reduce your usage of codeine, then it's probably nothing to worry about. Just remember that indulging in any more than you are right now will almost certainly give you stronger withdrawal symptoms and possibly lead to addiction. Never push your luck with opiates.

Thanks dude. Noddy was pretty sure that's what it was. Looking back over the last few months he has experienced this feeling quite a bit after a binge but never made the connection because he lacked any other more significant symptoms. Unfortunately, the desire to use again is very, very strong despite very mild withdrawal. I guess he already is mildly addicted.

[JaWill88]

yeah swim was there at one point except with heroin. swim remembers feeling his first withdrawal. it wasn't horrendous but it was definately there. swim as well though new it wasn't going to end there as swim loved heroin too much. swim would get this minor withdrawal from slamming a few times a day for a week or so. but it wasn't until swim did it for about 3 months straight that he felt the real PAIN of it all. swim felt every symptom he heard about to some degree ALL AT ONCE! it was aweful. swim never made it past like 3 days and ended up ending that shit! lol. good thing swim is on suboxone now and has been for like a year he doesn't worry about that shit anymore... except for when he has to come off the suboxone lol.

[SuprSonik]

Originally Posted by Tortoise

Thanks dude. Noddy was pretty sure that's what it was. Looking back over the last few months he has experienced this feeling quite a bit after a binge but never made the connection because he lacked any other more significant symptoms. Unfortunately, the desire to use again is very, very strong despite very mild withdrawal. I guess he already is mildly addicted.

It takes a lot of willpower to use opioids responsibly. What Noddy is probably experiencing now is likely more of the psychological addiction to the codeine rather than the physical addiction. SWIM always finds that it feels like an intense craving to use it again, even if it isn't to curb some physical withdrawal symptoms.

As hard as it may be, don't begin taking larger doses or taking more than you do already. If you do, be prepared to face a serious addiction, and almost everyone here will agree with SWIM when he says that it isn't worth it. Codeine is appealing because it's easy to get and has low addiction potential compared to more powerful opioids, but that only means that it's a starting point for many people. It would be a sad story to hear about Noddy's journey from codeine addiction to heroin addiction, so do whatever it takes to keep that from happening.

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Very insightful. Thank you!

[oxyaddict420]

Yeah sounds like mild withdrawl.. Swim is already addicted to pain killers and knows all to well about horrible withdrawl. Just be thankful that it isnt that bad.. If the use gets to be more often and also if the dosage goes higher, then Swiy might start to feel stronger withdrawl.. Smart to nip it in the bud right now.. It is a good thing that swiy caught this now and knows what it is, so that he can correct this if needed..

BEST OF LUCK

[Tortoise]

Thanks for your advice guys. It was well received by Noddy. Fortunately, Noddy wouldn't have the faintest idea where to obtain hard drugs (and he's not interested in finding out), so the likelihood of him ending up on heroin are very, very low. Anything is possible though....

[oxyaddict420]

Swim has never even tried heroin, but has gotten addicted to pain killers.. Oxycontin, and high doses of oxycodone are what Swim likes the most.. He has such a hard time when he gets them, trying to take them right.. Swim just abuses them and takes them all up until they are gone, in doses that produce a high.. Then he is left having to withdrawl if Swim can't find anything else.. This is a shitty feeling I am told, and Swim hates it, but he also loves the high as well, and no pain also.. That is why he admits he is addicted and tells everyone to be careful with this stuff..

[SuprSonik]

Originally Posted by oxyaddict420

Swim has never even tried heroin, but has gotten addicted to pain killers.. Oxycontin, and high doses of oxycodone are what Swim likes the most.. He has such a hard time when he gets them, trying to take them right.. Swim just abuses them and takes them all up until they are gone, in doses that produce a high.. Then he is left having to withdrawl if Swim can't find anything else.. This is a shitty feeling I am told, and Swim hates it, but he also loves the high as well, and no pain also.. That is why he admits he is addicted and tells everyone to be careful with this stuff..

SWIM is sorry to hear that. Have you tried taking lower doses of oxycodone by potentiating it with grapefruit juice, an anti-histamine, or other less powerful opioids? The supply of oxycodone would last longer that way, if nothing else.

[oxyaddict420]

Swim as you can see has just recently found this website(and is very thankful), but hasn't read everything yet. Swim did read about grapefruit juice and tums to intendify the effects yes.. Last night he tried this with 47.5mg of hydrocodone on a CWE and it didnt seem to do anything.. although today Swim got some 5mg percs and 80mg oxy's and when he took 6 of the 5mg percs he felt a more euphoric buzz than usual. so maybe it was from the grapefruit juice from last night.. He is going to be getting on Suboxone in a month to help with his addiction and hopes that will be a step in the right direction. He tell me to tell you thanks for the concern.

[Tortoise]

GFJ works best used at least a few hours in advance according to swim

[Melalicious]

as much as swim hates the withdrawal symptoms, as swim is sure most users do, of any kind of drug, swims mother and father are on Methadone for possibly the rest of their lives, as swims parents used to be Heroin addicts! and as much as swims mother comes across as the straightest person uve ever met nowdays, imagine having to take something like methadone everyday! (let alone any drug i guess ppl get addicted too and need to have on a regular basis), as swim grew up with ALOT of methadone in the house, (parents on 150-180mg per day), never once was swim tempted by something like that!

so swim will definatly take the advice and not up the dosage to compensate!!. which swim guess's that growing up in that situation helps alot with knowning swims limits!