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by Rick Strassman MD
Published by RoboCop  13-01-2005 |
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#1
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PrideKills
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24-01-2005, 02:28
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Found this book recently for 3 bucks. Great Read!
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#2
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Montgolfier
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22-06-2005, 23:31
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Robocop - Just finished reading this book -absolutely fascinating!! -there is a lot of quite technical information on there to do with the pineal gland and melatonin etc that I did found a bit of a struggle to get through but it was well worth it for the trip reports!
 . .what makes this book so good is the objectional way that its written, im not into reading a 'pro-hippy' 'one-sided' story of psychedelic adventures, I prefer a more feet-on-the-ground approach so you can make your own mind up. this book has also given me inspiration to read further into other 'near death experiences and 'encounters'  btw - If you liked the Alex gray artwork on the front cover, his website hasloads more inspirational artwork on there: http://www.alexgrey.com/  |
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#3
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raven3davis
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23-06-2005, 06:16
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Man Im jealous! I have been wanting to read this book for ages, but I requested it at barnes and noble one time and it was damaged when it got there and they never ordered me a new one. I was just looking for a copy on amazon.com and I found one used for like 10$. I am also planning on reading food for the gods by McKenna and also Archaic Revival. Some of the information in these books just boggles my mind, and it makes me think in ways I never have, about things that I love to think about. I love mystical expreiences etc, and I think it will be great to hear what other people have to say about the trips. For me, it is sometimes hard to adequatly describe a trip with language, but I think once I hear other peoples views I will be able to express mine easier. What do you think about food for the Gods, and has anyone read Archaic Revival by McKenna. He talks about human evolution and the mushroom, and how we evolved by taking mushrooms. Lots of information about UFO abductions too, which I think DMT the Spiritual Molucule might have but Im not sure. I cant wait to get some of these books in the mail. I think I am going to order Archaic Revival, Food of the Gods and DMT as soon as I can.
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#4
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unico_walker
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23-06-2005, 06:37
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There is a site that lists torrents, sort of a torrent spy
 and there is a PDF of the book on there for those not able to find it. |
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#5
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Eirias
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23-06-2005, 11:38
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I have read all of McKenna's books, as well as Dr. Rick
Strassman's. They are all good-- McKenna's are fun and interesting to read, as he has many intersting ideas and is a great storyteller, but his stuff is a bit less pragmatic/scientific and a bit more far-fetched. Strassman, being a scientist, is very thorough and precise in his approach, and while the subject matter is fascinating, some found his book to be a bit "dry", so to speak. I personally liked all of the above-- "True Hallucinations" and "The Invisible Landscape" were my favourites by McKenna, followed by "The Archaic Revival". I also very much enjoy the work of Jonathan Ott-- he is absolutely brilliant and the intro to "Pharmacotheon", called the "Proemium", is possibly the best assessment and critique of drug prohibition and argument for cognitive liberty ever written. Also, if you haven't read "Tihkal" and "Pihkal" by Alexander and Ann Shulgin, you must. Alex Grey also has two books that are amazing, called "Sacred Mirrors", and "Transfigurations". |
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#6
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mithras
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22-09-2005, 11:31
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I've had the pleasure of reading Strassman's book and thought it was very interesting i admit parts were a little dry. But i enjoyed the fact that it was thourough and scientific even if it did get slow moving at times. Food of the Gods was a fun fascinating read, if not a little far fetched and loosely factual at times. Does anyone know a good place to order Ott's books? I can't find any copies for less than like $80!!
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#7
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Doc Holliday
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28-09-2005, 17:29
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~ Yes I'm currently reading The Spirit Molecule, more or less as a reference, for future projects. Yes, Ott's books can be rather expensive which one wereU looking for?~
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#8
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mithras
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29-09-2005, 01:21
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originally i was looking for Ayahuasca Analogues but seeing as the tables that i was primarily interested in are all over the net i'm more interested in Pharmacotheon. mainly i've just heard great things about it but never any real specifics and whenever i find a copy it's around $85!
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#9
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Doc Holliday
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29-09-2005, 01:35
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mithras, Pharmacotheon, it considered by many to be 'THE BOOK', you're probably not going to find it much cheaper, and considering it's status there may not be too many second hand copies. I'd look for an on-line version, I know I've at least seen part of it on-line. BTW, Mr. Ott did a lecture covering the material in Ayahuasca Analogues on cassette through Botanical Preservation Corps. Doc |
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#10
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Doc Holliday
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29-09-2005, 01:56
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mithras, I know it's expensive, that's why I haven't bought myself! I've wanted it really bad for at least 6 years. When I think of all the hours I spent just wondering what it would be like to read...now I sound like I'm talking about a woman. Forgive me. Doc |
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#11
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DrugPhreak
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18-02-2006, 03:14
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Can you upload it to Rapideshare? I would really like to read it... thanks.
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#12
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psyche
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28-03-2006, 13:33
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I'm just reading the Spirit Molecule. I was about to order it to local bookstore but my copy would've propable come all the way from america or something. I was still going to order it but the I just found the copy from the torrents in form of pdf. Now I'm almost halfway through and I find this book really exellent. He is very intelligent and does some good thinking. I have read relatively few books on topic of drugs, but I expected this to be more technical. I was suprisingly easy reading, all about pineal gland and neuropsychology was deald on quite basic lever and all terms were explained well and many times. I really like Strassmans style and logic.
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#13
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oz_steve
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18-04-2006, 01:49
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DMT The Spirit Molecule - well well well… where to start?
Like the chemical reaction that results in the so-called spirit molecule itself, this book seems to separate out into layers of varying usefulness: At the top is a clear layer containing the "product": Strassman's excellent reporting of set and setting, the detailed background to the experiments, his descriptions of the experimental conditions, and the content of his subjects’ experiences. This is top-drawer stuff: an excellent description of one of the most important investigations into an hallucinogenic agent this generation. Next there is a layer containing some re-usable precursors, i.e. Strassman's own scientific, spiritual and cultural biases, which he describes honestly and lucidly, taking considerable risks as a scientist in so doing. This is refreshing, given the reductionist bias of most pharmacological experimentation! If phrases like "Buddhist" and "spiritual journey" offend some people then so be it. Finally there is a rather murky layer at the bottom that is best thrown away! Strassman's musings on dark matter and parallel universes are just plain kooky and reflect badly on the rest of the book. I say this as a researcher myself with an undergraduate degree in mathematical physics. Strassman must have been on drugs when he wrote those bits, LOL. But the good parts – the experiments themselves and especially the subjects’ experiences - are amazing. For once Occham’s razor is on the side of the psychonauts, in the sense that the simplest explanation for the quality and consistency of what people see, hear and feel in these experiments is that the experiences have some basis in consensual reality, and that is the conclusion Strassman eventually comes to. All in all this is a fascinating and compulsive read: I started and finished it in a weekend and immediately went on the internet, searching forlornly for any programs I could join as a subject, LOL. Seriously, if my friend SWIM could find a group here in the UK that was genuinely exploring the mind expanding aspects of DMT, then he'd be there like a shot. In fact SWIM is going to take the advice provided elsewhere in this forum and start going to New Age fairs, seeking out people who might be doing such things! This interesting book has had that important effect on SWIM. |
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#14
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Sklander
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29-04-2006, 06:59
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Amazing book. Dr. Strassman, the author, does a wonderful job of exploring DMT in an unbiased, true way. The book is more of a clinical trial read, with a few stories in between. Dr. Strassman does a great job with the trip reports. He really illustrates them well.
SWIM likes how Dr. Strassman doesn't just sweep the negative aspects of a DMT experience under the rug like so many others. He does follow up visits with all the patients in the study and marks it in the book. Awesome and essential read. |
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#15
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Bajeda
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31-07-2006, 04:18
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Well after looking at the pdf posted I decided to buy the book and try it out. I have just started so I will post my thoughts later when I finish the book.
It seems that it has gone down in price since some of the original posts above. I purchased it off amazon for like twelve dollars. Very affordable, so if you are interested in this stuff you should pick it up. More comments to come. |
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#16
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Sweet_Shadow
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31-07-2006, 21:07
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I find it a very interesting book. Especially the latter part of the book when Strassman describes the subjects' experiences. I was amazed when I read about the entities they encountered. These stories changed my mind about using DMT. I think I wouldn't be able to handle it, although most encounters are considered beautiful.
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#17
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rodent
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01-08-2006, 03:47
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Again I'll say the book is an excellent read especially the user accounts. Having Dr. Strassman at that chat someone of course asked him about his DMT experience (if I recall correctly) and he replied stating that he doesn't discuss his "drug use". He didn't say that he hadn't used it before though
I did hear a rumor sometime after the chat that the last user account in the book was acctually the good Dr.'s experience!!! Quote:
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#18
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Bajeda
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02-08-2006, 06:40
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For all those who found Strassman´s book interesting a must read is Graham Hancock´s last book called "Supernatural" which ,by the way includes a long and illuminating interview to Strassman by the author.
Hancock starts from Strassman´s work and David Lewis-Williams "Neuropsychological theory" of rock and cave art ( which notwithstanding its name is now the most accepted theory in its field) and takes them to entirely new levels. Judging by your previous posts you gonna like it. VV. |
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#20
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freemynd
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04-08-2006, 02:51
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On that note....a MUST SEE interview with Hancock can be found here: http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...s/ghancock.mov His experiences with ayahuasca. IT'S GREAT! |
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#21
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rodent
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08-08-2006, 15:36
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Yeah, I ran across Supernatural in the book review section of this site (think Alpha posted it). Tried to find it at the local Barnes & Noble but, it won't be instock till next reprint in sept they said. Looks good though!
Thanks for that link HotMonkeyAC! Good stuff  |
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#22
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[éS]Infinite
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30-03-2008, 21:35
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Re: DMT: The Spirit Molecule
SWIM enjoyed this book a lot, and found it interesting how Strassman linked the levels of DMT in one's body to spiritual occurrences (namely DMT release at 49 days after conception marks the entrance of one's spirit). However he found the whole section of Strassman attempting to get the proper grants to research & possess the chemical to be rather tedious (however it did teach him the appreciation one should have for such studies).
The accounts reported also gave SWIM a better idea of how one's mind portrays a DMT trip to itself, and the underlying functions of such a chemical. The "contact" and interactions with other life forms especially interest him, however he feels he should hold off from experiencing N,N DMT first hand until the time is right. Overall SWIM enjoyed the book a lot, knows somewhat more what to expect when he does DMT (as well as differences among injection vs smoking). |
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#23
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sunyata
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16-03-2007, 10:44
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Re: The spirit molecule
One thing that annoyed me in the book was the absolute dismissal of his research by the new Lama in the monastery he was affiliated with.
One might expect a more "open" attitude from Mahayana Buddhists, but they seemed even to threaten with denouncing his research if he did not cease it. But I guess research into the area of metaphysics and the possible location of the soul will be percieved as a threat to those who believe they hold the only answers, or methods of reaching an answer. In this respect I see absolutely no difference between this monastery and any christian church, their philosophy is degenerate and they would rather spend their whole life worshipping an image of the divine rather than seeking it out directly. And those monks who supported Strassman, but didn't dare to offer it publicly, for fear that the new lama would be displeased; What cowardice! Dharma warriors they are not! This is, by the way, not a criticism of Buddhism or its methods for enlightenment, rather a criticism of the narrowmindedness of some of it's proponents, and the cowardice of others. |
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