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Kundalini Awakening

Kundalini Awakening

I'd like to know how many DF'ers that have experienced kundalini-related phenomena and/or fullblown kundalini awakenings particularly in relation with psychedelic drug use. I see bits and pieces here and there where people mention it, but I find it worthy of a topic of its own as it tends to become a major influence on the lives involved.
Many might unknowingly have experienced kundalini-related phenomena, SWIM for one did, and it wasn't until the middle of the process when this strange word suddenly came to mind while returning from a K-hole where he found himself sitting in a yoga posture he became aware, he had semiconsciusly looked a Alex Grey painting on his wall named Kundalini awakening, and had a intuitive feeling it was related to his experience.
EDIT: he could till this day swear he read 'kundalini awakening' of the print at the bottom of the poster, the art works actual name is "Theology", it depicts a person in lotus position meditating with his chakras open. SWIM felt connected a clear connection between his own chakras and the corresponding on the poster. Focusing on the crown chakra made him feel at an instant connectedness, not only with the artist, with his fans, but to every person I had ever met, will and won't meets crown chakra, we were as one just for a few moments.
After looking it up he found some texts referencing indian yoga litterature that contained the required definitions, terminology and framework for explaining WTF was going on with him. SWIM will report his own experience below and hope others will share theirs, if they already have in a <insert drug here> experiences thread, a link to the report would be sweet.

First of all lets find out what we're talking about.
Kundalini is an old sanskrit word found in hindu litterature. It doesn't translate easily and there's some dissent about the exact meaning, but somewhere along the lines of 'curled up'.
In hinduism the kundalini-power is described as a curled up snake lying dormant in every man at the tailbone or root/Muladhara-chakra that can be awakened by yoga and meditation.
It may be released by several other means aswell including healing, body- and psychotherapy and drug use, other releasefactors may be by giving birth, unhappy love, celibacy, high fever, sorrow and some times spontaneous.
Kundalini is the omnipresent universal creative lifeforce in all beings on all levels of reality while kundalini prana refers to the psychosexual energy usually hidden within, it's the same energy but in humans, that when its activated rises up along the subtile bodys centralchannel to the higher chakras. Kunda means dam or energyresovoir.
When unleashed correctly/optimaly it can lead to cosmic consciousness and liberation, but in worse cases may lead to physical and mental problems instead.
It only gives problems if it's activated in an organism that at the time isn't mature for it. If that is the case it will put a strong focus on physical imbalances and unconcious areas of the mind when its unleashing its powers.
This was the case of SWIM.
In SWIM's case the phenomenon was spawned by a mix of ketamine, hatha yoga pracsis, mourning of a diseased friend, and perhaps a bit of unhappy love aswell. It's hard to pinpoint cause – effect in a holistic reality though.
Different schools of spiritual pracsis weigh the importance of kundalini awakening differently, some see it as a goal in itself, some see it as the foundation of spiritual growth, while others like zen, see it more as a distraction to ones path to enlightenment and advice against given it too much value and clinging to the effects no matter how profound they seem.
I share this view now but it admittedly was a difficult standpoint to have while it was going on.

Signs of kundalini may be some or all of these:
1.Muscle twitches, cramps or spasms.
2.Energy rushes or immense electricity circulating the body
3.Itching, vibrating, prickling, tingling, stinging or crawling sensations
4.Intense heat or cold
5.Involuntary bodily movements (occur more often during meditation, rest or sleep): jerking, tremors, shaking; feeling an inner force pushing one into postures or moving one's body in unusual ways. (May be misdiagnosed as epilepsy, restless legs syndrome (RLS), or PLMD.)
6.Alterations in eating and sleeping patterns
7.Episodes of extreme hyperactivity or, conversely, overwhelming fatigue (some CFS victims are experiencing Kundalini awakening)
8.Intensified or diminished sexual desires
9.Headaches, pressures within the skull
10.Racing heartbeat, pains in the chest
11.Digestive system problems
12.Numbness or pain in the limbs (particularly the left foot and leg)
13.Pains and blockages anywhere; often in the back and neck (Many cases of FMS are Kundalini-related.)
14.Emotional outbursts; rapid mood shifts; seemingly unprovoked or excessive episodes of grief, fear, rage, depression
15.Spontaneous vocalizations (including laughing and weeping) -- are as unintentional and uncontrollable as hiccoughs
16.Hearing an inner sound or sounds, classically described as a flute, drum, waterfall, birds singing, bees buzzing but which may also sound like roaring, whooshing, or thunderous noises or like ringing in the ears.
17.Mental confusion; difficulty concentrating
18.Altered states of consciousness: heightened awareness; spontaneous trance states; mystical experiences (if the individual's prior belief system is too threatened by these, they can lead to bouts of psychosis or self-grandiosity)
19.Heat, strange activity, and/or blissful sensations in the head, particularly in the crown area.
20.Ecstasy, bliss and intervals of tremendous joy, love, peace and compassion
21.Psychic experiences: extrasensory perception; out-of-body experiences; pastlife memories; astral travel; direct awareness of auras and chakras; contact with spirit guides through inner voices, dreams or visions; healing powers
22.Increased creativity: new interests in self-expression and spiritual communication through music, art, poetry, etc.
23.Intensified understanding and sensitivity: insight into one's own essence; deeper understanding of spiritual truths; exquisite awareness of one's environment (including "vibes" from others)
24.Enlightenment experiences: direct Knowing of a more expansive reality; transcendent awareness

Note: Having any one of these symptoms doesn't necessarily mean it's kundalini-related. Some may call for medical attention or therapeutic aid, on the other hand, if its kundalini related one should be aware that the 'orthodox' psychotherapeutic community may very well be unfamiliar with kundalini and may misdiagnose SWIY as psychotic or schizophrenic. You can read more about this in The Kundalini Experience: Psychosis or Transcendence by Lee Sannella, M.D.

The Grofs have co-written a book called 'Spiritual Emergency' after Stanislavs wife, Christina, had a difficult kundalini awakening. It contains good advice and guidelines for both one experiencing kundalini aswell as their friends and relatives who may be just as worried and concerned as the one it's happening to.

Gopi Krishna has written a handful of books about the subject, there's one in particular I'd like to recommend but I've forgotten the title.

Finding a spiritual teacher/guide that's familiar with kundalini is optimal, these may be hard to find though, a psychotherapist familiar with transpersonal experiences would be the 2nd choice, and if neither is available good friends is a must, one needs to get some of the stuff that's going on verbalized and out in the open otherwise I think one might easily get rather severe mental problems.
As mentioned different schools take different measures towards the phenomenon, some say it's important to control the process while others hold that the kundalini acts intelligently and one should just ride along). SWIM chose the latter approach.
One thing is certain though, when the process has started, you're stuck with it untill the bitter/happy end, and one might aswell try and make the best of it.

So much for introductions, here's SWIMs account of what passed by during the couple of months last year when he felt the powers of the snake most intensively.
There may be some errors in the chronology of events as it was a turbulent period and the ketamine made the memories a bit hazy. (The kundalini may have added to this aswell)

It all started in a period when SWIM was ketamine binge'ing daily, he practically lived in the K-hole, or made every effort to do so.
SWIM had a high succes rate of reaching a blissfull state of samadhi, following the scheme ego dissolvement – spiritual death / nothingness / sunyata – samadhi – slow reinstitution of the ego and return to material reality.
He had the feeling of being god at times but most it was just pure orgasmic ecstasy (sometimes he found himself stuck in nothingness for most of the trip, not a very scenic trip but good for a little reflection on the nothingness that must underly the Being).
This state was reachable daily more or less though only one trip/day mostly (of course this didn't stop SWIM from redosing over and over anyway).
His trips started changing character at this point in time, he suspected his recently found favorite combo of ketamine and cannabis (plus/minus a pinch of 2C-B for improved recollection of the trip, but never in such amounts that it coloured the experience much) was the reason, whatever the reason for this, the blissful state was prolonged, and he often found himself what reminded him more of a fullblown LSD peak experience than either cannabis or ketamine.
The first time he experienced this he also felt an enormous amount af gratitude towards LSD and Hoffman and its importance on human evolution atleast on the individual level which was quite moving – odd thing to happen on different drugs, but in the highly suggestive state of ketamine this didn't really come as a surprise).

In retrospect SWIM has realized that LSD did open some doors in his psyche, once they've been opened it seems easier getting back there, which SWIM also is the reason why many find Cannabis sativa strains to be much more psychedelic after having used a psychedelic first.

The lesson to be learned was something along the same lines of progression he had experienced before. The next trip builds on the former and so on. And he shouldn't be giving the ketamine and cannabis full credit for bringing him so often in these absolutely wonderful ecstatic states.
He intuintly knew that it was a higher level of existence = consciousness and this carefree state occured after many a struggle with old emotional bagage, comming to terms with one issue often resulted in an aiching muscle healing at once and similar psychosomatic occurences, most of his issues were apparently tied in his back- No wonder his old physiotherapist used to say his upperback was one big entangled knot.
The effect usally lasted till SWIM fell asleep, a difficult task SWIM might add as the CEV's were intense and persistent. Much later on he concluded that this was due to high activity in the ayna chakra ,positioned just above the pineal gland, which many psychedelics tend to produce.
The activitity was intensified by some snake in the spine that had pushed its way upwards all the way to this chakra, this would have made SWIM lying on the floor laughing had he been told this sorta mumbo jumbo at the time, but it made sense later on.

Back to the tripping, having reached the samadhi state he sometimes started floating higher and higher up (always up) through layers of imagery of religious character, colorful hindu art, sitting buddhas in lotus position, 'SA indian' inspired artwork (SWIM would guess mayan or incan his knowledge is oh so limited though), viking wood carvings and egyptian hieroglyphs.
These were very aestethically beautiful experiences that SWIM remembers with joy. In relation to the topic one trip (it actually may have been two succesive trips SWIMs memory is unsure) is particularly relevant.
He had the feeling of being placed in the middle of a oversized version of Buddha, a lucid yellowish energy edition much bigger than what appeared to be SWIMs "energybody", a rough glowing shape SWIM was in this realm, they floated together in a way that made SWIM feel this happening was carefuly orchestrated, floating like they were without boundaries although still having shape. And not like more like it was as carefully planned and executed as a While being positioned inside this huge Buddha figure, and feeling oneness with it, he felt a deep sense of compassion for All, none left behind. A very beautiful experience.
He's uncertain of the order, but he floated on and in the same way was positioned inside an egyptian sarcophagus, with the sense of looking out through the eyes of whoever was placed there, SWIM guesses a pharaoh or another high class citizen found worthy of that kind of burial. He was placed inside the sphinx too, looking out through it eyes, and he felt himself becoming bigger as he neared them looking out on a sandy landscape with sparse vegetation. Finally he found himself inside Christ sitting in lotus position, and he had a similar sensation of love for all as with the Buddha. This bugged him a bit afterwards, because SWIM had long written of christianity and the possibility of any historical J.C. but he has since revised that viewpoint to that there most likely has been a historical Jesus, healer/philosopher with not much resemblance to the biblical Jesus. But SWIM mentions this incident as it's important in context of the topic as he later read somewhere that the kundalini awakening involved the spirit of Christ finding its place in the heart chackra or something along those lines.
In SWIMs interpretation both Buddha and Christ are personifications of the same compassion of the heart. After this SWIM had a higher degree of compassion for all beings, and peoples emotions seemed to effect him a whole lot more than it used to, not that they didn't before, but he had a hightened intuitive sense of joy and sorrow.
One trip around this time is worth mentioning, synchronicity seemed to show up in more places in SWIMs life and this was one such incident.
He had a rather bad trip, which he finds rare on ketamine, confused, praying-to-god-SWIM-would-ever-find-home-or-be-able-to-put-his-personality-back-together trips maybe, but rarely bad trips as it's over too soon to become real bad. This was the exception.
He had found himself feeling oneness with the entire continent of Africa and felt the horrors and grief that part of the world has gone through and still do in every fiber of his body. Images of hunger, death, disease, crying and dying women and children, brutal slaughters in tribewars flashed through SWIMs mind, so much bad karma like a black cloud allover a beautiful continent and he got the feeling that it was all SWIMs fault.
Feeling miserable and disillusioned over this unbearable burden, he got the sensation that like comming to terms with personal emotional garbage can be used as fuel for higher states of consciusness that the sadness and compassionate feelings he felt for Africa in some way helped to even out this negative karmic balance though the scale of this task was not fit for a one man job.
At some point all these feelings sort of materialized, SWIM had experienced this on other occasions with emotional garbage where it produced a fair amount of foamy saliva, this time he had to pee.
After stumbling out to the bathroom he found out that he was pissing blood. Sitting on the pan afterward collecting strength to stumble back into the living room, still heavily sedated by the ketamine and still feeling like crap about the hopelessness of the Africa situation (his screwed up genitalia didn't add much positive though oddly wasn't his biggest concern at the time) suddenly his phone rang.
Usually he's not much for random callers while SWIM's tripping but feeling as low as it gets talking to another person sounded like a lifesaver.
He picked up and to his surprise found a young bloke from Folkekirkens Nødhjælp at the other end, a danish emergency aid organization similar to Red Cross.
The guy asked SWIM if he didn't feel it was time we did something about Africa, on top of the prior events SWIM couldn't agree more, and gladly donated a good share for the cause.
These kinds of organizations don't dial SWIM often if ever, so he found it a strange conincedence which lightened his mood a bit.
He even amused himself by the thought that this organization which has some links to the protestant church (but aren't preaching in their aiding AFAIK) might be on to something, this sorta highy specialized marketing targetting susceptible individuals returning from the spiritual realms long distance, such skills would require some good standing with the supreme beings hehe.
The usual K-tunneling and egodeath/rebirth were no longer a part of SWIMs trips, when dosing he immediately found himself in a 'transpersonal state', his head at times feeling like a busy train station with all sorts of inputs and experiences comming and going. (This is where the 'mistakeability' with psychosis comes in.
He experienced entering loved ones, or them entering him actually, being them, feeling what they thought and felt.
He picked up bits of conservations of unknown people with a broad range of voices, the subject of the conversations just as broad, ranging from chattering about the days work (at the dinnertable SWIM imagined), emergency calls (SWIM remembers one little girl gone missing in particular), to radiohosts promoting the latest crappy band, he felt like an antenna or police scanner.
The most concerning episode was a two day period where he had the feeling that his dead grandmother was living in a spot just beneath his left eye.
He experienced himself acting unknowingly in a way that she used to. This is hard to explain but she had these characteristic traits, like sitting looking at the sun for hours while rubbing the knuckles on one hand with the other hand, SWIM never does this himself, but he could see himself as her while doing it. He also recieved some clairvoyant information that her interest in plants of which he was aware also had brought her across the path of Datura spc. in her younger days, and she had had a huge interest in the medicinal / ethnogenic value of plants and herbs, where as SWIM had thought it was mainly for their decorative qualities.
SWIM was ambivalent of this event, happy to have some sort of contact with his grandmother again, but very saddened that he didn't know this when she was alive but also well aware that if this went on he would certainly secure himself a oneway ticket to a rubber cell.
He told his Self, whom he just recently had become aware of, that this situation was untenable.
The next day he found himself doing spontaneous yoga on the kitchen floor in his parents house, he wasn't on drugs as they seemed to just make the madness going on even worse (or better depending on ones point of view.) In a split second he had hammered his head to the floor, it went so fast SWIM didn't notice it before he was on the floor, his mother overwearing the whole affair was in shock.
His parents have a fairly large woodenfloor in the kitchen, and some soft fabric on the floor of the jointing living room, none the less SWIM had managed to hit a metal track for a sliding door inbetween.
He had hit it just below his left eye, and after a little headaching and stiching at the ER he realized that his grandmother had left again.
SWIM is getting ahead of himself here though, his Self and his spontaneous yoga should have been mentioned earlier, but here will do.
As stated in the beginning, in the immature organism the kundalini will focus on physical imbalances and untouched subconcsious emotional material.
It takes a holistic approach for this as emotions seem to tag on to knots in the body, so untangling knots releases emotional garbage and vice versa. This is a wellknown principal in yoga.
When the snake was loose so to say SWIM had the feeling of a sphere of energy circulating through his body, actually he often sensed two spheres, one hot and one cold, yin & yan perhaps and all that jazz.
Whenever one of these passed tangled up nerves and fibers they untangle them with might.
Somewhere SWIM has seen a fitting analogy of the uncurling snake as putting waterpressure on a rolled up garden hose, the pressure will make the hose seem to be almost intelligently trying to straighten out, the places where the hose is tangled up, pressure will build up until the force becomes too much and the water breaks through while the hose is flying violently around in the air untill it is straightened. The exact same thing is going on when one, as SWIM, has a lifetime worth of knots, tangling and tensions.

This was the most scary part of the whole kundalini experience, SWIM would find himself thrown around and literally lifted from his bed by some unknown force, he at some point visualized himself being kneaded by much larger version of himself, the size of the buddha etc he mentioned earlier, a 'rougher' version though, like a blueprint without the details.
He had this strange feeling that 'it' was much older than SWIM aswell, and SWIM had it connected with another experience he had, where he found himself at the rudders of a viking ship, maybe an earlier incarnation of SWIM who knows?.
He didn't have much control while the kneading and untangling of SWIM was happening, and he remembers fearing for his life because he on several occassions was inches from smashing his jaw into his marmor table or hit the wall. In this period he had the walls covered with madresses for safety to much wonder by his visitors.
Around here he was quite shure he was going mad, untill a couple of months later where he read a case story in 'Spiritual Emergency' about a woman, SWIM thinks she was called Karen, that had taken the very same safety precautions, so maybe it wasn't that insane after all.
In the literature these outward physical manifestations of kundalini are called kriyas.
They also include what SWIM has called spontaneous yoga, postures that he would do for no particular reason, but which from the yogi's point of view are signs that the energy is trying to loosen up an area where this or that particular posture is an aid.
SWIM also started recieving messages from he later interpreted to be what some call the Self, mostly it was one-way communication lecturing and preaching SWIM what he should do and shouldn't do, nothing like 'Kill, Kill, Kill!' heh, but in moral questions this voice would interfere with SWIMs descisions.
At first he thought of it as a different smarter being in the same host body as SWIM, but later realised that it was SWIM himself, without the flaws of the ego. And much spiritual pracsis is the task of eradicating the diversity of the two.
The kriyas stopped after about 14 days, and he got the intuitive feeling that it was finally over and the process was nearing its end. And so it was for about a month.
Partly due to all the crazy events and partly due to his ketamine abuse, SWIM had been living with his parents again for a couple of months, but as everything was getting back to normal, he thought it was time to get back to his studies at the university.
SWIM moved to a new appartment and hadn't had the time for moving his bed yet, he felt very uneasy the night before his move and had the feeling that he needed that bed, but as he had slept ok on floors in the past he didn't think much of it.
That changed when he finally moved in, he slept on a thin madress the first night or tryed to.
It seemed to piss of the snake, the uncontrolable kriyas came back full strenght, while his back was aching like he was lying on glass shards.
He spent two days nailed to the floor barely able to move only succeded by outbursts of kriyas.
He had avoided professional aid up untill now but was miserable that the whole thing had come back while he was trying to get his life back on its regular tracks.
He tried contacting a couple of therapists but none of them we're familiar with kundalini, he found one that had helped a woman experiencing kundalini, but it was long time ago, and he didn't have a prescription pad which was SWIMs main interest.
He had heard that certain antipsychotics could stop the process, he was well aware that this was very much against nature to do, but SWIM was desperat. He never got any AP though, and in retrospect he is glad.
A friend delivered him some heroin and extra madrasses for the backpain and it eventually went away after he got his bed moved.
He later read that the awakening often happens in two rounds, the first more intense than the other, so this was the aftershake. <- EDIT: This I've later found out isn't true in all cases.
SWIM had a major problem with insomnia during most of experience, he would stay awake for about a week at the time, being manically ON! 24/7, felling like a tweaked Duracel-bunny to much fun and concern for his friends.
When walking and bicycling he felt lighter than air, and like he wasn't using his ordinary 'fuel' at all but riding on another energy generator.
He sometimes tryed to tire himself to sleep by excersizing, doing pushups etc. but he would just keep going.
He had trouble eating aswell, or felt no desire or hunger, so had to force himself to eat. Some of his friends were concerned that he might not survive if this went on, while SWIM though he was immortal or something with this new glimpse of enlightenment.
Yes, just a glimpse because all good has an end, and SWIM doesn't feel more enlightened these days than he did before all this happened.
He knows that disciplin and pracsis are the only way to reach a permanent state of enlightenment.
That's atleast some of what happened, and SWIM will stop here, it's already way longer than he had hoped for :/
Now let me hear yours

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SWIM recalls experiencing something he believed to be the rising of kundalini energy. He was trying to assume a 'god form', during a couple of days of drug-induced fasting and lack of sleep linked with the charging of a self-constructed magickal symbol. But, yeah, maybe it was something else......
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dude,Go to a really charismatic church. I was totally amazed by the shit I saw.
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dude,Go to a really charismatic church. I was totally amazed by the shit I saw.
He found a few other psychonauats who had experienced some kundalini and other subtile energy related phenomena due to use of psychedelics and certain yoga, mediation and spiritual traditions. Most of them, like me, had inadvertently stumpled into these phenomena during different paths of self exploration and martial arts but no one I knew had been through a full kundalini process. . In situations where for instance your intuition says the shakti really needs some room to all sides so it can "uncurl".

I had had a bad experience before while sleeping in a room with the bed next to two outer walls. I was seriously fearing for my life because this seemingly endless energy source tossed my body around like a pack of meat. In an environment with enough space for the energy to be let loose it could do it's thing without being a danger to the individual or their surroundings. In a confined space on the other hand, even though kundalini / shakti is supposed to be a healing power can be very dangerous. I feared for my life several times when I was thrown around by this massive force and found my skull or chin stopping only inches from concrete wall.

When the energy was loose in my body it usually took the same route, like it followed a roadmap, so after a couple of times I got used to the twist and turns, uphill and downhills and knew when the ride would get bumpier and bumpier, so when getting near the most turbulent parts of the route I would cover my head in my arms and hands the best I could and just pray I didn't hit anything harmful before the energy outburst subsided.

But, who do you contact when you need a place to hang out and "spas out"? as I called it at the time, or involuntery yoga postures before i learned the term kriyas.

In my mind I imagined these huge rooms only designed for this part of the process. All it needed was a comfortable flat bed and lots of room to all sides and height, cushions and soft walls on all sides. Maybe some kind of swing or wires for climbing, because several of the kriyas I experienced involved saltomortales in the air (evidently to release some persistent emotional knot in my back).

A safe place to literaly be free to get thrown around acting like a tangled up water hose exposed to very high pressure amount of water. Where if you move horizontally two meters sideways at a moments notice you don't trash niether yourself or the furniture. I doubt such a place exists so I was in a desperate situation, as I didn't dare go through another Skull VS Wall xtreme game in my own home.

The list of people I wanted to involve in my kundalini process was limited already as I hardly understood much of it myself and the experience itself makes you feel very different and isolated from most of humanity and I didn't wan't to alienate people further by stirring up their safe technicolor reality with my ramblings of chakra systems and yogic asana's.
In my transic insomniac periods I spoke nearly daily with a friend who had both read a lot of literature on relating subjects and experienced the subtle energy systems himself and he was a tremendous help at keeping me 'sane' in those months, teaching me grounding lessons to move the energy downwards and so on, but he lived in a small apartment (and far away) with nosy neighbours so could in no way have a "lunatic" living for a couple of weeks to "spas out".
So in desperation I wrote a PM on another forum to a woman, who I had met IRL some months earlier at the World Psychedelic Forum but hadn't had a chance to really talk to. So as a last idea and hope I emailed her telling my situation, begging in my mind that she understood me and didn't think I was some freak (of the bad kind) when I asked for advice on finding a place to "spas" for a few weeks.

I got the nicest long reply that really saved my day and probably my month. She understood me completely and had gone through the kundalini proces herself back in the 80s catalyzed into motion when she initially started holographic breathwork therapist training.
The day after she she wrote me she had found a couple living far from everything where I could stay and 'spas' for as long as I wanted. I was so grateful for the offer and it gave me alot of hope that I would be able to get through the proces with a positive outcome.
I never made use of the offer though because the intensity of the nightly kriyas declined and I seemed to gain some control/veto right(?) of when it was ok/harmless to release the energy. So I did alot of yoga outside on the lawn in the summer often in a mild breeze....mmmm <3 to let the energy flow freely and more harmonicly.

But I would have no other idea of where to turn in that particular situation if it hadn't been for this fantastic (hippie) woman and her network of friends and I'd met her just a few months earlier. Often it's the people that you least expect it that ends up impacting your life the most.
(In the USA I know the Grof's started the "Spiritual Emergence Network" back in the 80s, I'm not really sure if there is a european alternativ / supplement
Had I contacted anyone in the public healthcare services or psychiatric care they would have locked me up for sure, perhaps managing to stop the process completely with enough antipsychotics and tranqulizers and made me become "more of a drooler than a talker these days but very peaceful" as they say, but that's never what I wanted. There is small "club" for people experiencing/having experienced kundalini in my country. I had contact with a few of the people running it. They were all friendly people, nice to talk to but they couldn't help me much at the time as I had hoped they had connections among proffessional psychiatrists and doctors who either had treated people going through a kundalini awakening or at least read case reports so they knew what it is. Unfortunately they didn't know any proffessionals - psychologists, therapists, psychiatrics etc. that treated "patients" with a "spiritual emergency" or difficult kunalini awakening with different means than any other type of psychosis. In conventional western psychologoy it's only recently becomming an akwknowledged diagnose and kundalini is still rejected as a syndrome with distinct symptoms in many narrowminded academic circles. Even Jung, i think, in many years retrospect admitted he had at some point mis-diagnosed a woman not believing her, when she was telling him she was having kundalini symptoms. Jung knew of the phenomena but was certain it only occured in the east/India where selfexploration, yoga, meditation are common and therefor phenomena like kundalini would also seem likely more common. And he was problably right, before the 60's and psychedelics and eastern culture and philosophy was popularized in the west, there probably wasn't many cases here at all.

Sorry I'm rambling here, I had sort of deliberately pushed the experience into the archives for a while to get my worldly life back together. But many thanks for ressurecting the thread, I should update it everynow and then anyways, for my own therapeutic sake and for probably curing a couple of insomnia victims along the way.

And now on to your advice, what kind of charismastic church do you have in mind?

By 'church' I automatically associate it with some kind of christianity, and to my knowledge Kundalini isn't something particularly dealt with in the scriptures and I doubt most preachers would have any clue on what it is either, so I can really see why I should seek their expertize on this matter when the phenomena is wellknown and documented in many other religious beliefs and spiritual practices.
I could be entilly wrong here and you could mean church in a broader sense, there's the peyote and ayahuasca churches etc. where this phenomenon likely happens aswell.
I know in zen buddhism they too are aware of this phenomenon, but it's as empty as all others and one shouldn't spend too much time and energy dwelling on it, it's another distraction to the path of enlightenment. While in other schools of thought it's an essential starting gun for leading a spiritual life and in others the whole purpose and end goal (kundalini yoga).
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Re: Kundalini Awakening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDebb this is not the video I was looking for,but is cool. A lot of Christian churches are involved in kundalini,not many but a few. There used to be a video on youtube but I can not find it. Just google kundalini christians or something like that.
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Re: Kundalini Awakening

My monkey had a series of such events surrounding a confluence of psychedelic drug use, yoga/qigong practices, and experimenting with magickal operations. He was not ripe for such a transformation and it unfortunately resulted in years of semi-insanity while he sort of "payed off the karmic debt" for playing with fire, you might say.
It was a very strange time though, involving pretty out-there stuff, like spontaneously being "told" future events (which turned out to be exactly right), along with the whole writhing/shaking business and slipping in and out of altered states of consciousness.
He was diagnosed by various psychologists as being bipolar, but he had suspicions about it being something more along the lines of a premature kundalini experience after he started reading about such, because of the similarity of descriptions as well as things like mandalas that he had seen in altered states and such.
However he was skeptical because he figured most people who were crazy tend to attribute their craziness to supernatural phenomenon, and as a student of psychology didn't want to fall into a fallacy he was well aware of.
Meditation helps him in dealing with it and getting back to a "grounded" state.
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