How exactly to smoke Oxycontins

[HighCountryHero]

swim is just a bit confused on how to go about smoking oxycontin. swim read the other threads and just wanted some help. So this is how swim thinks to go about it: place ground up OC onto a piece of foil and mix with several drops of water, then heat underneath and inhale it with a empty pen. swim has never chased the dragon with anything so is extremely new to this idea but very interested in trying it out.
Just wonderin if thats the right way to go about it and any other tips would be much appreciated.
Also swim usually takes around 40mgs orally/nasally to get a good high, so what would be a good amount to do with this method?
Thanks for the help

[rocksmokinmachine]

I wouldn't bother doing this. I may be wrong but I think OxyContin (oxycodone) comes as a HCL salt. It will probably degrade before it vapourises. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I think SWIY is better sticking to oral use/insufflation.

Oxycodone is much more bioavailable insufflated or used orally.

[truth]

SWIY crushes up oxycontin. SWIM can snort 80mg and does nothing, For Smoking Oxycontin Swim Needs about 20 mg. So SWIY crush up pill. Get Tin Foil. Fold It So there is a crease. SWIY puts oxycontin in the foil, Get A Drop Of Water. Mix It With The Oxy. Try To Make It as Thin Line Of Line As Possible. Put The Lighter Under The Foil and Suck The SMoke Through A pen Or Straw, Hold In For As Long As you Can.
SWIM believes sprinkling about 20 mg on a bowl of dank, and smoking feeels much better and works much better. But It May Just Be SWIM. Good Luck To SWIY.
-truth

[fnord]

anyone else have info on this method?

[IHrtHalucingens]

SWIM has never tried this but it seems to have a lot of people to back it up.

Heres a link to an old thread where it was discussed.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23473

[N0ly]

swim would think that you would have to basify the salt. free base it. so cooking it in just water wouldn't work.

[rocksmokinmachine]

SWIM says they are much, much better used orally or insufflated.

[samuraigecko]

Snorted they are much better. Smoking is possible and just because it is in the form of a HCl salt does not render it unsmokable. However, it does taste pretty damn bad, especially when compared to smoking Heroin or Morphine.

Smoke it in a meth / ice style pipe.

Snorting it is much better.
removing the coating and just taking it is even better again but takes longer to come on. The euphoria however, lasts longer.

Hope this has been of help.

[HighCountryHero]

Thanks for the comments guys,
swim perfers to take them orally and occasionaly snort them, he knows how well these methods work. swim is just interested in trying smoking them at least once to form a personal opinion, just curious to try, other swims know what i mean. swim will definitly try truths method with a low dose to start.
swim also has MS Contin 30's, he usually takes around 75mg to get a strong buzz, so how much MS would be the good starter amount to try and smoke. swim figured since morphine has such poor bioavalibility that smoking would make more since with these than OCs.
swim will try in about a week or so and report on what swim thinks about it. Swim will always stick to oral use majority of the time, just wanna try something different while the sources are around. Once again thanks for all the help and will get back with the results.

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by HighCountryHero

Thanks for the comments guys,
swim perfers to take them orally and occasionaly snort them, he knows how well these methods work. swim is just interested in trying smoking them at least once to form a personal opinion, just curious to try, other swims know what i mean. swim will definitly try truths method with a low dose to start.
swim also has MS Contin 30's, he usually takes around 75mg to get a strong buzz, so how much MS would be the good starter amount to try and smoke. swim figured since morphine has such poor bioavalibility that smoking would make more since with these than OCs.
swim will try in about a week or so and report on what swim thinks about it. Swim will always stick to oral use majority of the time, just wanna try something different while the sources are around. Once again thanks for all the help and will get back with the results.

Are the MScontins crushed into a powder or taken whole? this can make a big difference to what comes on faster.

When comparing a smoking dosage one must remember that the drug has entered into SWIyour system quicker than it would when ingested. Therefor knowing weather or not the pills were removed of their time release coating and crushed to render the insoluble max inside useless is needed to determine the safe dosage for one to smoke.

Hope this has been of help

[HighCountryHero]

Swim usually crushes the MS's into powder berfore ingesting them. They tend to hit pretty quick whole as well.
Swim understands that smoking must be respected as the dose is entering ones body much quicker. Swim will also be running into roxy 15s which would seem to work better for smoking (just a guess, no real scientific thought behind to as why, just seems there would be less fillers and no binders at all). So swim shall be trying these as well.
Swim will inform everyone of his results when he tries this. Swim will try smoking OCs, Roxys, and MS Contins. Starting low and being careful of course. Test 1 w/ 10mgs OC, Test 2 w/ not sure amount of MS (maybe 15mgs), Test 3 w/ 7.5mgs of roxy. On seperate days and moving up in doses if swim feels comfortable and actually likes smoking these substances. Swim doubts he will do this again after this experiment. Swim has to go clean soon anyway.
One other question, would it be better to use a crack pipe than the tin foil method? And if using it in a pipe should swim still mix some water with it?
Thanks for the help. Any other ideas, thoughts, or little tips will be appreciated. Peace

[samuraigecko]

Originally Posted by HighCountryHero

. . . Swim will try smoking OCs, Roxys, and MS Contins. Starting low and being careful of course. Test 1 w/ 10mgs OC, Test 2 w/ not sure amount of MS (maybe 15mgs), Test 3 w/ 7.5mgs of roxy. . .

Seems a smart way to start.
If not sure about the MScontin then one would perhaps be inclined to say 15mg to 20mg is a good smoking dose for someone with low / medium tolerance. Those with a high tolerance can smoke a whole gray nurse (100mg) in one go [this is not recommended for non opiate tolerant peoples].

Originally Posted by HighCountryHero

. . . On seperate days and moving up in doses if swim feels comfortable and actually likes smoking these substances. Swim doubts he will do this again after this experiment. Swim has to go clean soon anyway. . .

SWIM also does this regularly, even though he also IV's (H and M) and smokes opium. He likes to clean up as a yearly thing and says it is "good for the soul".

Originally Posted by HighCountryHero

. . . One other question, would it be better to use a crack pipe than the tin foil method? And if using it in a pipe should swim still mix some water with it? . . .

SWIM recommends the meth/ice styled pipes only because he is a purist. He hates tin foil for the numbers of reasons stated in other smoking threads but it is his own personal opinion only.

The main reason he says to use glass is because the heat is spread more evenly without producing any "hot spots" which can burn and degrade the opiate very quickly. The idea is to vaporize it slowly so glass seems to produce less waste. Also, because the glass pipes are an enclosed bowl less waste is produced from vapor loss because an enclosed bowl catches it all even after one stops toking and heat is still producing vapors which one may not be able to see.

SWIM has found that with Oxy mixing it with a slight amount of water before smoking it does make it more efficient but also notes that it is not needed with MScontin. Which lets one come to SWIMs point.
Just because something is in the form of a salt does not render it unsmokable. MScontin is Morphine Sulphate, a salt, And is great when smoked although the effects do not last as long [the onset is good though because of the quickness of it entering the system, one can not get any quicker unless one intends to shoot it up].

Hope this has been of help