Purity - the "what's this cut in this cocaine" thread dumpster (closed)

[Pele]

Swim has only ever had 2 different batches of cocaine. The first batch made him feel like a god for a brief period, and caused considerable numbness of his teeth and face. Nice and mellow, and over all very enjoyable. The comedown was depressing, but it was worth it to get the high he got.

The second batch (an un-cut version of the stuff swim posted about earlier) that he got caused moderate numbing, and the buzz was more like a speedy adderall type feeling. This feeling lasted a relatively short time, and then swim is driven into a disturbing depression that lasts for hours. This is in no way pleasurable, not even close to being worth the rather puny initial effects.

Swims question is, what might this second batch be cut with that would make it have this effect on him? And also the method used to clean the unwanted portion away.

[IHrtHalucingens]

Its hard to say from your personal experience really but ill give it a try.

How much time was between uses and waht was each dose. SWIM finds that even the same batch of stuff creates different experiences when taken in close proximity to the last dose. The more you take the worse the adverse effects and withdrawals get.

If it is the cut then it could very well be some sort of amphetamine of even methamphetamine. The effects do point to this option, short duration, speedy effect, and severe long lasting depression.

And to clean it you would need to positively identify the cut so you can figure out what to use to clean it. Without the ID your guess is as good as mine.

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by Pele

The second batch (an un-cut version of the stuff swim posted about earlier) that he got caused moderate numbing, and the buzz was more like a speedy adderall type feeling.

SWIM is just going to throw this out, but it could have been cut with some kind of amphetamine.

[raven3davis]

R3D: SWIY's wish is SWIJ's command!

[Pele]

The dosages were not close to eachother, only one line every few days, swim has tried 4 different times. One time to try it out by himself, another in a group setting with friends for company, another when he tried doing 4 enormous lines to see if it was the quantity that would be the deciding factor, and another by himself afterwards laying in bed to more carefully examine the effects. Each time the results were the same, a short speedy skin crawling restless buzz and then plunging into depression that usually lasts until swim sleeps it off or smokes a bunch of pot and forgets he was ever depressed. All of those experiences were at least 1 day apart, never going back for seconds of course....Yick. Swim says it tastes very much more bitter than his last batch, kind of a menthol type of coldness initially, and moderate numbing when he puts a but on his tongue.

[bucwlld]

Hello...this is my first post and I would really like a response to this! thanks in advance....

Just for added info swim usually does 1g in a night when he does it, and it will last anywhere from 4 to 6 hours, doing a couple lines every half hour to an hour. Individual lines rarely exceed 100 mg...maybe on the last ones.

Anyways, swim has been getting the stuff from the same guy for a couple months and it's usually what he expects...except for 2 times. The first time that it seemed shady, 0.5g were bought. There was no numbing, VERY little euphoria and 10 minutes later swim wanted to do more (not to retrieve the high but merely to get one!) It tasted very bland...actually almost no taste or drip.

The second time (tonight) is the one that has him a lil worried. 1g was purchased. As soon as swim put it on his gums he knew right away there was something wrong with it. The taste was extremely bitter as opposed to previous experiences...Way more acidic than it usually is. The appearance seemed right on (some shine, pearly white), but it was mostly powder with a few small, very hard chunks that easily crushed to powder with a spoon. Back to the taste... very bitter as i said, very hard on the nose (stung like a mother goin in), and the drip, while not unbearable, was very unpleasant and, like on the gums, was bitter and burned a little. No high or numbness was ever achieved. The first 2 lines were swims usual size, about 50mg each. After 10 minutes, swim gave the benefit of doubt as far as tolerance goes and did a couple more lines, maybe 75-100 mg. still NOTHING except bitterness. Swim quickly phoned his supplier and told him of this. He said he cant believe it, will talk to his supplier, and he will call swim tomorrow and give him another G on the house. He seemed sincere and apologetic, as expected (pretty cool n str8 forward dude). All he asked was that swim not use it all and save a bit to show him tomorrow so that he can then show his supplier the bunk stuff that was given. Anyways i got off topic ther, but my main questions are:

Has anyone else experienced this?
Any experienced advice of identifying what was in this???

PS: it is now 2 1/2 hours after last dose and swim feels awake, accelerated RESTING heart rate of 110-120 bpm...nothing abnormal, except for a slight sense of heat in the chest/throat...very slight. Swim would smoke some herb to fall asleep but is hesitant as this always increases the comedown anxiousness for him (obsessing about every little thing such as head pressure, heart rate, tingling)...and this added "unknown" tonight will def make that worse...So please any help would be appreciated and i apologize for the long read. Stay safe everone! Peace

[Pino]

Maybe caffeine? It is impossible to guess, what it was. Look at LeJunk's Cocaine Purification Technique. So your friend swim can wash some nastiness out the next time.

Reputation Comments on this post:

may I suggest that you post the articles in english on hagigat that you posted in the sub coca thread of the Dutch forum...

[Benga]

yes, this is really impossible to guess unless a sample is analysed.
Just as D.F. is not a pill ID sign, have to add that it's not an adulterant I.D. site as well. we have to face the fact, nasty reactions to potential cutting agents are worth mentioning, it's very to identify cutting agents and link them to health causes without having both a proper analysis of the product and access to the victim / patient's medical record followed by physical examination.
these threads usually become guesswork threads, which doesn't help either.

Best one can do is to read up on cocaine purity and health issues by browsing the forum using the prefixes "purity" and "health".
and to follow Pino's avice, read into cocaine purification techniques, Le Junk's technique as in the link above but also other alternatives, which can be easily reached by browsing the forum using the prefix "TEK"
take care

b


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[Kolon]

THIS IS NOT A PURITY/CUTTING OR SOURCE THREAD

SWIM is recently staying in the UK and she/he has linked up fine with supplies.

He/She is wondering what is commonly put into coke to bulk it out as back home it is normally something inert like sugar etc.

Over in the UK he/she has noticed a different effect from coke and wondered if SWIY would know the common adulterants in the UK? From SWIMS experience things feel a little epedrine like. (Le Junk says in his/her washing thread that in the USA its not Speed)

Just wondering as SWIM will leave well alone over here if its common to find Speed or Eph in coke in Britain?

Thanks.

[Aar0n]

I don't think you can easily generalise what's in coke in location X. Unless you know what the majority of stuff is cut with at a supplier level then I think you can't get a definitive answer. Location and dealer makes a big difference, and I suspect people probably purify it then re-cut it with something else.

SWIM has had very speedy, chemically type coke from person A, but a very euphoric, clean high from the coke from person B.

Apples and oranges, I'm afraid.

[Lettish]

My friend concurs with the above post. It's swings and roundabouts. It's like pills, you can have two that look identical, but from different sources their contents could be completely different.

[Kolon]

Thanks guys, I guess in the home country its either poor quality - poor high, or good quality - decent high and thats what SWIM has been used to.

In the UK there sounds a lot more to it than that and he/she is pretty sure there is something fast in with the coke he/she has seen.

In SWIY opinion would Le Junks Acetone wash work on British coke to clean it up and produce a decent product?

[Aar0n]

SWIM will be washing British coke soon, if SWIM can get some bloody filters! Probably worth it. Even with a small amount, just to test to see if it's worth it.

[Infinite I]

Swims had coke thats kept him up all night definately some speed or something in some of the stuff hes had, hes also heard that you can buy a kilo £5000 cheaper than good stuff so thats obviously full of crud !

[adamdalad]

depends were you go alot more expensive down south than up north, because it comes into the ports up north.
plus also depends who you know the same as everywhere the higher up the chain you go the better it is

[MrG]

This is rapidly heading towards a prices discussion please refrain from continuing on this line. Excuse the pun.

[Benga]

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[Oppiut]

Swim recentley tried coke for the first time several days ago. Swim went through 1/2 gram in two nights. On the first night swim's third line made his nose bleed. On the second night Swim's 2nd line made his nose bleed. When swim was at work the day after these two nights, his nose began bleeding PROFUSLEY. Blood started dripping out and then alot went into the sink. Swim said it didn't hurt. A friend said its because they put rat poison in the coke. He also said it might be methamphetamine. Swim that the nose only bled after too much coke use.

The coke was rock, and moderately strong, if that makes sense...Swim couldn't sleep till 12 hours after the first line on the first night. Would anybody have any idea what the hell was in this stuff? If you need more details please ask away. Thanks!

[fnord]

give your nose a break for a bit then try again,repeated sniffing of anything can damage the fragile lineing of your nose.coke can be cut with many things but rat poison probably isnt what they used,why poison your customers?most dealers will cuit with an inert substance due tot he fact many users shoot up there product.

[Aar0n]

From what SWIM recalls (Could be wrong) cocaine is a very alkali substance, and is very harsh to the nasal membrane. Hence the bleeding. It's just part of it for some people.

[powerrobbie]

Wow up for that long of a time from one line? sounds like swiy's blow was cut with some meth

[Oppiut]

Swim was up for 12 hours after starting the first line. Swim did a total of 4 medium lines in a time of...3 hours. Swim thinks his friend was just trying to scare him about the strychnine-cut. But a lil crank cut with the coke makes since. Although swim has never tried crank, he heard it burns like a bitch in the nose. Swim says this coke didn't burn after the first line but really badly every line thereafter.

[Benga]

no one will ever know unless a sample is properly analysed. this is not a cutting agent discussion site. however, we do have threads on how to remove adulterants, browse the forum using the "purity" and "TEK" prefixes.

as Fnord said, rat poison doesn't make sense as a cut, but the substance is often refered to in many drug myths, associated with LSD, MDMA etc....this is where this rather silly idea probably comes from.

guessing threads such as these go nowhere.

closed

b

[xstalkrx]

SWIM used cocaine and noticed it was very very strong for a change. It was much stronger than usual. After using, SWIM went home and went to bed. The next morning, SWIM's TEETH were hurting very bad and SWIM just didn't feel the same after a usual night out using cocaine.

Suddenly, SWIM's heart rate was up to 120 and stayed there for 7 hours. SWIM was very frightened. The racing heart rate went back to normal but attacks would occur throughout the week. The attacks would be less severe and would only last for about 3 minutes.

SWIM is wondering if he was given cocaine that was laced with meth or something else?

SWIM's blood pressure and resting heart rate are now EXTREMELY normal after a week of having used the mysterious cocaine mixture.

SWIM will be seeing a cardiologist soon to make sure no damage was done. The heart palpitations have frightened SWIM.

[beentheredonethatagain]

we need more information to be able to even come close to a good guess, first what was the method of injestion, that would be very helpful .
If it was snorted then did it burn like fuck? if it didnt then probaly no meth was in it, other than that no man could say yes or no withany certainty.