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Old 11-01-2008, 02:53
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Making Firecrackers

SWIM has a few questions regarding the topic.


1. Is there a reason you have to cook it on triscuits or crackers? Why can't SWIM just make a full blown deli sandwich haha?

2. SWIM has 1.5 of good chronic, how much would I have to use for a good high? SWIM has little tolerance to pot. (When smoked.)

3. Would microwaving work? How long should SWIM heat it (I hear about a minute) and will it stink up the place? (If it only does a bit I can cologne it up haha)


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Re: Making Firecrackers

1. Cook them on whatever swiy pleases.

2. 1 gram should be enough, but swim would use it all. Make sure to grind it up very finely as well.

3. No, swim wouldn't risk it. Cook it in the toaster over, at least 15 minutes, this will heat it thoroughly.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

Swim tried it and 1g wasn't enough, it was only enough to give him a mild buzz. Swim doesn't know of using a microwave, but swim read to use a oven(you could use a toaster oven) and cook it for around 25 minutes. Heres the direction's from thc (tasteful hemp cooking a thread on this site)

"Fire Crackers
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2 saltine crackers
1 tablespoon peanut butter
1 gram cannabis

Directions
Preheat oven to 350º F. Grind cannabis to a fine powder and mix together with peanut butter. Spread on top of cracker and top with cracker. Wrap in aluminum foil and bake in oven for 15 to 20 minutes. You should probably make 3 of these at a time!"

Swim would suggest using the full 3grams recommended. Next time swim does it he is going to use ATLEAST 3 because last time it was a waste using to less. Well not really a waste because it was an experience but still it didn't give full effect.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

SWIM's method of making firecrackers:

Needed:
1.5ish grams of decent mids
peanut butter
4 saltines

1. Swim usually starts by breaking up his buds as well as he can. Works better with dry buds as these will turn to dust in the slightest grip.
2. Then he spreads peanut butter on all 4 saltines. Not a ridiculous amount. Enough to cover the surface evenly.
3. He then sprinkles bud onto the peanut butter covered saltines. All the while tapping it into the peanut butter and spreading it evenly.

(Swim uses 2 sandwiches instead of one so he can make sure that all the bud is touching peanut butter.)

4. Swim then takes a small amount of peanut butter and spreads it around the edges to "seal" in the green.

5. Swim then sets toaster oven to 375-400 degrees fahrenheit.

6. After it heats up he places the 2 firecrackers onto a single sheet of foil and bakes for 10-15 minutes watching the whole time to make sure he doesn't burn them. SWIY wants the saltines to brown, not burn.

7. After baked in the toaster oven for proper amount of time, he puts them on a paperplate and puts them in the microwave for 15-20 seconds, (for good measure).

8. SWIM usually has to wait a bit for them to cool down before he eats them, but when they're cool he eats both in succession.

It usually takes anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours to fully kick in. In SWIM's experience if done this way it usually takes around 30 minutes to start to come up, 2 hours or so of coming up, a nice 3-6 hour plateau and then swim usually falls asleep sometimes on the come down.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

Posted on this topic, should cover everything:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45487


1. One can use anything one wants, never used a full sandwich but anything relatively unmeltable that holds the PB together works.

2. Use more than one would to get "Very High" if one smoked, quality buds have gotten SWIM good from 1/3g or so but not all get this result.

3. Microwaves have never worked for SWIM.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

Now what if SWIM is allergic to peanut butter? Anything else that can be used?
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Re: Making Firecrackers

SWIM has heard from different forums and threads many times too ONLY use natural peanut butter.

He isnt too sure, but this statement sounds like bullshit too swim, natural peanut butter is just peanut butter without transfat added too it, where as "unnatural" peanut butter gets fat added. The transfat for some reason keeps the natural fat in the peanut cream and stops it from separating, which is why natural peanut butter has a layer of fat on top...

So if anything they should work better with unnatural peanut butter unless for some reason the transfat messes things up but i have no idea how it could.

Can anyone else clarify?
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Re: Making Firecrackers

@Vantranist, There should be no difference between using natural and additive-ridden peanut butter, and as you said, it may even be beneficial to use PB with trans-fats added for increased lipid content and miscibility. Swim has had great success using both.

@Yertos, if swiy is allergic to peanut butter, they can use various soy butters or other nut butters. They can also just use butter. Anything with a high lipid content will work, even just some butter and herb between saltines.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

n how about say 2 grams of finely ground hash or weed, put in mouth, chase with enough water? can that work or does swim overlook something ?
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Re: Making Firecrackers

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n how about say 2 grams of finely ground hash or weed, put in mouth, chase with enough water? can that work or does swim overlook something ?
Eating marijuana or hash will actively induce a THC intoxication. On an 'empty' stomach it will require larger amounts, though 2 grams is a plenty large amount.

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Won't work. The buds need to be in some type of fatty substance (peanut butter, cheese, etc.) or alcohol to be able to consume it with effect.

THC is lipophillic. To aid it in crossing membranes (lipid bilayers), it is commonly bonded to exogenous lipids (i.e. bitter, cheese) prior to digestion. THC will however bond to endogenous lipids, or those previously ingested. For instance, if someone were to eat a bag of greasy cheese-fries before a gram of raw cannabis they would most likely be more affected by the THC than someone who ate the same cannabis on a stomach that only contained the natural endogenous lipids. Eating raw goods with yogurt has also been noted as effective here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26543

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Hash on the other hand, Swim has heard that you can eat hash straight and it will produce effects. Might want to read up in case, so swiy doesn't waste their goods.
THC in hash and THC in marijuana do not differ in their structure or oral activity. Due to the increased rate of oxidation, there should be more CBN/CBD present, which has never been shown to be a more orally active cannabinoid. Perhaps the explanation for this is simply that the cannabinoids are more concentrated in the hash so more are easily ingested.


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Actually, given a "wash", cannabis buds may be consumed directly without the addition of lipids. The "washing" process simply involves placing the cannabis is a small, microwaveable container - a ramekin or something similar. Boiling water is then added to just cover the buds (which should be packed in reasonably close to each other to form a layer), the ramekin is then microwaved at around 180 degrees Celsius (anything lower than 200 C) until the water is evaporated. Some people "wash" them again with water containing sugar, although I have not heard that this is necessary. This method of consumption tends to require more material, I have been told, but can elicit the same results.
This is a method swim has never heard of, but is now very intrigued by. Is this perhaps based on the 'activated weed' theory? Does swiy have an explanation for this? THC is not hydrophillic, so it should not really be affected by the water wash, is this more of a cleaning process to get rid of mold or something?
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Re: Making Firecrackers

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This is a method swim has never heard of, but is now very intrigued by. Is this perhaps based on the 'activated weed' theory? Does swiy have an explanation for this? THC is not hydrophillic, so it should not really be affected by the water wash, is this more of a cleaning process to get rid of mold or something?
No, it was explained to me as degrading and breaking down the material to aid digestion, much like the experiments you do as a kid on finding starch in leaves - boil the leaves then add iodine to detect starch. Boiling the plant material is supposed to help break it down - I could be entirely wrong on this count, I have no personal experience in this area, but friends have reported good results from this method.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

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friends have reported good results from this method.
Have these friends ever tried eating cannabis without a 'wash'? It would be interesting to compare the two and see if breaking down the plant material increases the bioavailability of the cannabinoids.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

Won't work. The buds need to be in some type of fatty substance (peanut butter, cheese, etc.) or alcohol to be able to consume it with effect.

Hash on the other hand, Swim has heard that you can eat hash straight and it will produce effects. Might want to read up in case, so swiy doesn't waste their goods.
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Re: Making Firecrackers

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Won't work. The buds need to be in some type of fatty substance (peanut butter, cheese, etc.) or alcohol to be able to consume it with effect.

Hash on the other hand, Swim has heard that you can eat hash straight and it will produce effects. Might want to read up in case, so swiy doesn't waste their goods.
Actually, given a "wash", cannabis buds may be consumed directly without the addition of lipids. The "washing" process simply involves placing the cannabis is a small, microwaveable container - a ramekin or something similar. Boiling water is then added to just cover the buds (which should be packed in reasonably close to each other to form a layer), the ramekin is then microwaved at around 180 degrees Celsius (anything lower than 200 C) until the water is evaporated. Some people "wash" them again with water containing sugar, although I have not heard that this is necessary. This method of consumption tends to require more material, I have been told, but can elicit the same results.
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