first timer wants to dose 3 times in the first week

[burgerman]

I know a new commer to ecstasy that would preferably like to spend his one week holiday using it.. he has 3 pills total and wants to do it three (1 pill each time) times in that week.

what will the second and third time in that week be like ? pretty weak ? tell me about the tolerance for a newcomer.

other alternative is only have it twice and have it at the beginning and end of the week.

[aerozeppelin123]

Tell him definitely don't do it 3 times in a week, you need much longer than that to recover each time, if you did that, you would most likely feel pretty awful after that week. It's really not a great idea to even do it any more than once in the week, cos you need longer than that to let the serotonin levels recover.

[criss]

SWIM has rolled on consecutive nights and had a good time on both nights. So it is possible at least, but I would say the risks and the down-sides outweigh the benefits in this instance.

I assume you have read about any potential neurtoxicity associated with regular doseage so regarding that it's entirely your decision.

Tolerance due to frequent use will be a result of you not having any serotonin stored up to release (the feel good chemical)

I would advise on the second option (spacing it by a week) as not only is this generally a better idea to stop a hard crash but it allows you to take a two pills on one night if you want a harder roll and are really enjoying them.

And of course the official verdict would be to space doseage by at least one month.

Have fun, hope this was of some help.

xx

[burgerman]

Well swim disregarded the advice on this issue and will relate swim's story.

Took 1 pill friday and had some light effects but really, swim could have driven a car and worked alongside people. nothing like the power of LSD. Swim had no negative side effects the next day. didn't feel like dancing (had to turn off the music), didn't feel overjoyed with happiness.. ended up walking around in circles for 3-5 hours


took again on saturday but ate 1 cannabis cookie (half the usual dose).. make it allot better

took again on sunday, pretty much same result, had a cookie with that as well.


gonna take one more on thursday with 2 cookies again but not expecting much


Maybe its swim's brain chemistry. after so many years of abusing cannabis swim's seratonin receptors must only work after a smoke of pot.

swim probably has so little happy juices in him that mdma just wont work at all apart from feeling like a muscle relaxant.

[RaverHippie]

it is very possible that SWIY's pills aren't very good if they did little to impact you each time. I would recommend to you friend to eat plenty of fruits and vegetables and other healthy things since attempting to dissuade him is fruitless.

[radiometer]

Sounds like a great way to start building up a tolerance and losing the magic nice and fast. Not to mention likely having a prolonged, difficult period of recovery afterwards. If this person is a new user, they are probably used to having an afterglow for several days afterwards. If they pursue this course, that will change to several days of depression afterwards. For some people it takes longer than others, but everyone pays the piper if they choose to use MDMA too frequently.

How about talking to this individual and asking them to reconsider? It'd be a shame for them to rashly begin to ruin their enjoyment of such a wonderful medicine. Think of it like running a new car on full throttle for a few days straight - that engine is not going to last nearly as long as one which is properly cared for during the break-in period.

But some people just can't control themselves, and if this person's one of them, I'll expect to see the "it doesn't work for me anymore! <sad eyes>" thread sooner or later.

[Petethemeat]

What horrendously pointless thing to do. A number of people have already given you some advice on this issue, but I don't think it can be put forth strongly enough.

MDMA is a drug for occasions. It is a holiday. Doing it once a week is bad, but doing it several times a week is insanity. It has already been admitted that the effects are not that great. Why do you always want to be on it?

MDMA is a drug that works best sporadically and in a choice fashion. You will lose all the subjective effects you hope to achieve, as well as causing down regulation of serotonin receptors. This can lead to the depressive feelings and 'come downs' people can get. Not to mention doing it often is likely to be very neurotoxic.

Don't do this constant half-assed stuff. Stop taking them for ages. Then when you have the right time to do them, properly measure yourself a dose, that will affect you (that sweet spot) and have a fantastic time. Then wait a few months and have another fantastic time.

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[burgerman]

Swim took then 4 times in that week that he had to himself, and wont be doing it again for a long time. Swim didn't have the intention to continue on that way, and realized how weak they were (always weak).

Swim always considered himself a first timer because on 4 seperate, well spaced occasions he got little effect. At first he thought it was due to taking cypramil for depression, but judging by the recent trips after 2 years abstinece from cypramil he'd say that all the pills were just bunk.. all of them from all the different sources over several years were shit.

Swim doesn't really have the intention of using mdma much anymore anyways. He knows it was reckless to not follow the advice but that was the only time he had to do it, and now that week is over

[BlondieUK]

My friend thinks that your pills are very weak.

And my friend would also advise against doing it more than once a week.

My friend went on a binge last summer for two weeks and felt like he was losing his mind, felt totally lost and ended up drinking alot rather than dealing with the comedown.

My friend now only does this sort of thing once a month tops, but when he does do it, he has a great time.

That is my friends advice.

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[cook_justakid]

Yo, anyone would advise against doing it more than once a week.
The magic euphoric buzz will go away before swiy even knows it.
Swiy might still chase it, then swiy gets hallucinations, or some other symptoms of psychosis and depression, anxiety included.
And swiy will deserve just that.
What does swiy define as a binge? (besides -the obvious- stupidity)
& why would swiy go & do a depressant when swiy is feeling lost? especially alcohol.
talk about making the wrong choice mate.

if swiys friend felt lost and started drinking to avoid "coming down", even though swiy was messy in the mind as swiy drank, well swim is afraid to say that swiy didn't exactly avoid a come down.
probably got worse by drowning in sorrow of making a mistake that everyone should know not to - don't "binge" on MDMA/ecstasy...
don't use more than once every two weeks cause swiys serotonin levels need to re-develop themselves