Health - urination problem - prostatitis? over-hydration?

[aneraofsorts]

the first time swim ever took e he experienced a very uncomfortable after-effect. the entire time thizzin swim had a great time, but then he crashed and this god-awful after-effect arose. swim could not urinate the whole time until the crash, where his urine came out very slow, it stopped and started, and was extremely painful. swim had no idea what caused this. the next time swim took e he did not experience this and he took 3 pills over spread out over the course of about 8 hours. the last time swim indulged in one pill and he experienced the problem much worse than the first time. swim thought his genitals were going to catch on fire from the burning of the urination. swim looked at the contents of the urine and found many white blood cells. after researching for a good amount of time swim could only find the problem to be prostatitis, although swim only experienced half of the effects of prostatitis. this leaves swim with many questions, is it a possible over-hydration problem? swim remembers drinking a large amount of water. another thing to note is that the pain begins when swim urinates after coming down, this could last from 3-5 urinations, which takes between 20-40 minutes. after this the pain goes away. swim would appreciate any insight into this problem.

[Jatelka]

This thread may help.... http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41601

Actual dysuria (painful, stinging, burning urination), as opposed to just an outrageous, and unpleasant need to pee, has never been experienced by the flamingo.

Do your marmoset ONLY get stinging with MDMA, or do they have stinging at other times? Do they have a discharge? If they do, then they MUST get checked out, and a UTI (Urinary Tract Infection)/Prostatitis/STI (Sexually Transmitted Infection)excluded.

The stop/start thing may be related to MDMA's action at alpha-adrenoreceptors. When these receptors are "switched on" the muscle at the neck of the bladder doesn't relax, and problems can ensue.

[aneraofsorts]

swim read that thread prior to his post, it didn't answer any of his questions. swim had ideas of a possible UTI or STD, however there was no apparent mucus discharge but there were white blood cells present. this swim knows is a symptom of a UTI. swim was considering going to the doctor to get it looked at, but it went away after about 30 minutes and has yet to reappear (about a month has passed since this happened). swim remains entirely clueless.

swim forgot to add that this has only happened to him those two times while coming down from MDMA.

[Micklemouse]

Originally Posted by aneraofsorts

swim forgot to add that this has only happened to him those two times while coming down from MDMA.

Then he probably has little if anything to worry about. Problems with urination are common with most if not all stimulants, & MDMA is a stimulant after all (the clue is in the name - Methylene-dioxy-methamfetamine!)!

How does your marmoset know there are white cells (leucocytes) in his or urine? What test did they use? White blood cells are present in nearly all urine samples - they are only an indication of a problem when there are a lot of them! If the test read Trace then that is pretty normal. False positives can be produced by some antibiotics, vaginal discharge, & quite possibly the strain on the body of taking 3 pills at once & not sleeping! If there are no leucocytes present when when the pills are clear from their system then the chances of your marmoset having nothing to worry about are very, very high.

When your marmoset has found that they cannot urinate freely, have they strained? If so, then this could account for the pain, & if they keep it up then they will certainly find they develop problems with their prostate.

Hope this sets yer mind at rest. If not, please see a doctor. Oh, & tell yer marmoset to go easy on the water. There really is no need to be drinking more than approximately a pint (½ litre) an hour. If your marmoset is drinking much more than this, then they run the risk of water intoxication (hyponatraemia), one of the symptoms of which is... an inability to urinate! Do bear in mind that an inability to urinate does not necessarily mean that your marmoset has hyponatraemia! The explanation given by Jatelka above is much more likely!

[aneraofsorts]

swim knows there are a lot of white blood cells in his urine because he can see them. urination afterwards shows no signs of white blood cells. swim knows what white blood cells look like in urine in large quantities. swim did not experience the painful urination and such the time he took 3 pills, which is what puzzles him the most. swim assumed this was just an odd and apparently rare side-effect but could not find it anywhere on the web. swim is not really worried about it, but he would like to avoid it his next time he fizzes, which is the main reason why he is trying to figure out what caused it.

[Micklemouse]

How exactly can you see the white blood cells in your marmosets urine?

[aneraofsorts]

swim finds this hard to explain, there were small congregations of a clear and sparkley substance in his urine. swim assumes this to be white blood cells because he has no idea what else it could be, possibly a mixture of bacteria and white blood cells.

[tinytom]

if you could see it with your naked eye i would doubt it to be WBC?

[Micklemouse]

Or possibly fairy dust being flushed from your marmoset's kidneys...

Seriously, you are not seeing leucocytes in the urine, neither are you seeing bacteria, not without a damn powerful microscope!

Assume nothing. What was the urine collected in?

[aneraofsorts]

the toilet. swim did not go to a doctor. there was nothing but water in the toilet prior to urination, swim is 100% sure of it. if it was not white blood cells or bacteria then swim has reached a level of confusion far beyond the highest dose of psylocibin.

[Micklemouse]

And it hasn't happened before or since? Then put it down to a case of OOTT - One Of Those Things.

Most likely explanation - your marmoset ingested a) a drug that puts both strain on the kidney & produces a hormone that can constrict the muscles responsible for normal flow of urine & b) a lot of water, putting more strain on the kidney, & possibly depleting the body of sodium, heightening the chances of urinary hesitancy. Your marmoset came down from the drug - at this point not only does the hormone responsible for not urinating begin to wear off, but the chances of visual disturbance is also high, possibly accounting for the perceived sparkles (glitter could also account for this, as could sunlight glinting on the fresh morning wee). Your marmoset is urinating through a tightened ureter, & has a lot of liquid to pass, adding to the strain, & adding to the pain.

As for the "congregation of matter", not a clue mate, & without seeing it & medical analysis I doubt anyone else will either. There is absolutely no way of knowing that this matter was in the urine, & not in the bowl already.

Again, if there is concern, see a doctor.

Anything further is pure conjecture, & can only add to the rampant hypochondria currently afflicting this forum. Self-diagnosis is a dangerous path to travel kittlings!.

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