Combinations - Alcohol + Methylphenidate = Ethylphenidate

[Lehendakari]

SWIM likes Methylphenidate, but he finds it lacks euphoria except when SWIM dose when drunk. S

WIM finds alcohol boring and not euphoric at all, SWIM still drinks a lot when going out cause it makes social phobia soften, and that allows him to be able to enjoy social events.

SWIM started taking methylphenidate to help with alcohol dullness and tiredness and pretty soon he found out this combo was truly euphoric, nothing like any of them by its own.

SWIM thought this was logical cause they would prevent each other's side effects, alcohol preventing anxiety and edgyness and MPH preventing dullness and tiredness.

He then tried alcohol with other stims like coke, BZP, MDPV, desoxypipradrol and never found any of them combining as well as methylphenidate.

So researching a bit I know now that methylphenidate pharmacokinetics are altered and a new metabolite forms which is ethylphenidate, which aledgelly has better affinity to DA receptors.

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Interesting!

[Jatelka]

and here's an interesting paper from the archive...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/loc...=4061&catid=59

[psyche]

It seems that alcohol can potentiate some simulants by combining them in a manner that replaces methyl group with an ethyl group. Well I don't know if this is a case, does anyone know of other stimulants being potentiated by more active combination with alcohol? When I saw this thread it reminded me that alcohol + cocaine equals to cocaethylene, though I don't know anything about chemistry to say how closely it is related to the chemical union which this thread is about.

[Lehendakari]

^^ Sorry i forgot to add the link....

^^ SWIM has experiences with stims above only......

Any experiencies with amphetamine? Or meth? Maybe same happens with Methylaminorex and methcatione and methylamphetamine

[wings of wax]

This is the only combo I do nowadays. Can't stand rits on its own, and as you say, if you keep drinking throughout the night, you will get sleepy.

How much Ritalin do you take? Orally or insuflated?

[no-go]

Always enjoyed my beer, but for a long while swim went without, simply b/c MPH orally was so extremely enjoyable by itself that beer was ignored. But swim had rx for MPH and was using it for its utility during that time (study and work). Until stomach problems, coffee had good synergy.

Then swim discovered combining the two in recreation was awesome. Be forewarned, it can be habit forming and may ruin the drugs when taken solo. If that begins to happen, just back off MPH for a month or so, sleep alot, drink without MPH, and your body will forget MPH wants alcohol to have a good time.

[Lehendakari]

Originally Posted by wings of wax

This is the only combo I do nowadays. Can't stand rits on its own, and as you say, if you keep drinking throughout the night, you will get sleepy.

How much Ritalin do you take? Orally or insuflated?

Baboon takes normally 30 mg - 40 mg orally always. This is not a dose for a newbie though.

Rits of its own are no longer pleasant for Baboon. Anxiety and edgyness are too bad and now he also gets stomach and bowel upset. The comedown is just too harsh.

He remembers the times he was on rits the whole day and he enjoyed the euphoria it provided, short but pretty noticeable. Now he rarely takes it without alcohol, as MDPV does the job much nicer.

[wings of wax]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

Baboon takes normally 30 mg - 40 mg orally always. This is not a dose for a newbie though.

Rits of its own are no longer pleasant for Baboon. Anxiety and edgyness are too bad and now he also gets stomach and bowel upset. The comedown is just too harsh.

He remembers the times he was on rits the whole day and he enjoyed the euphoria it provided, short but pretty noticeable. Now he rarely takes it without alcohol, as MDPV does the job much nicer.

Whoops, that reminds me, when I was talking about "me" in my above post, I was referring to a monkey I know from the zoo.
He followed me home one day.

30-40 mg orally not for a beginner? I wouldn't call that a large dose at all. My monkey needs to take at least that to feel anything else but the anxiousness.

Then again, as you say, MPH loses its magic very quickly. My monkey remembers days when my monkey could take a lot more, and he would be up for days. Those icky days are over.

Guess my monkey will have to check out MPDV. Only heard of it, but good things.

[Lehendakari]

Originally Posted by wings of wax

30-40 mg orally not for a beginner? I wouldn't call that a large dose at all. My monkey needs to take at least that to feel anything else but the anxiousness.

Then again, as you say, MPH loses its magic very quickly. My monkey remembers days when my monkey could take a lot more, and he would be up for days. Those icky days are over.

Guess my monkey will have to check out MPDV. Only heard of it, but good things.

This is a harm reduction forum. Though 30-40 mg can be average or low for some monkeys it is not recommended for begginers. Always start low. You can always take more, never take less.

As for MDPV, don't expect any great euphoria out of it, it does the job keeping one's lacy ass working.

[JoeM]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

Now he rarely takes it (methylphenidate) without alcohol, as MDPV does the job much nicer.

Very interesting. Are there any more ethylphenidate reports? SWIM didn't find much with google. Can SWIY say more about the comparison between MDPV and ethylphenidate? Ethylphenidate and other stimulants?

[static_vodka_420]

swim has tryed this combo before

the alcohol and methylphenidate combo gives an added coke like euphoria to the ritalin, keeps all the good effects of alcohol eithout the sickness or dizzyness, and reduces all inhibitions. swim finds he can drink large amounts too but would not reccomrnd it and stresses to drink plenty of water

swims normal dose would be 60mg insuffulated methyl.. 30mg oral methyl.. 1 5th 40 proof alcohol.. a few grams of smoked marijuana

it makes for a good evening bwith the girl friend

[snuffulator]

swim takes 200mg of rubifen then downs a bottle of scotch bourbon irish or any other whiskey he can get his hands on. makes aparty alot more fun tho he spaces them out 5 20mgs b4 drinking and 5 half way through the bottle truly amazing experiences except the hangover headache is killer. easily solved swim just takes a huge glass of water and pops 4 ativan (lorazepam) and sleeps it off. does anyone else get blindness andor blurred vision from insuffulating. swim never used to but now he does is it from the mph or is his nasal region melting away and leaking cranial fluid?

[Potter]

Originally Posted by snuffulator

swim takes 200mg of rubifen then downs a bottle of scotch bourbon irish or any other whiskey he can get his hands on. makes aparty alot more fun tho he spaces them out 5 20mgs b4 drinking and 5 half way through the bottle truly amazing experiences except the hangover headache is killer. easily solved swim just takes a huge glass of water and pops 4 ativan (lorazepam) and sleeps it off. does anyone else get blindness andor blurred vision from insuffulating. swim never used to but now he does is it from the mph or is his nasal region melting away and leaking cranial fluid?

That's a LOT of drugs, someone needs to cut down quite a bit. Not surprising that the patient is having such awful effects, lord knows what's causing blindness. I can tell you it isn't leaking cranial fluid, if it was, you would be dead.

Please cut back drastically, before you get killed.