Methods of taking H

[copro]

SWIM hasn't injected yet, has tried smoking it unsuccesfully and is now snorting his H No. 3. Is this a very wasteful way of taking No.3?

Also, SWIM has heard that H can be squirted into the anus and that it produces an effect similar to shooting without the problems of vein damage, anyone know someone with experience of this?

[Solinari]

Don't know about plugging it, could have its own problems such as burning the ass off you after dissolving it with citric or possibly causing infection in a similar way to skin or muscle popping (IM/Subcutaneous injection).

I am unsure what you mean by smoking it unsuccessfully, it sounds like one doesn't really know what one is doing, anyone who has just begun to get a habit should get a buzz off of just a few lines when smoking it. One does know how to smoke it, right?

As for snorting it, i know very few people who snort heroin, they either smoke it or jag it. Even although heroin 3 isn't soluble in water, i do believe it is still absorbed by the mucus membrane but i can't say for sure. It seems to me to be something done by only a few people, probably more used to taking coke than smack never the less i have been told they get full effects from it.

Vein damage is something that will happen with careless, inexperienced or heavy long term users. Inexperience left me with a permanent but small scar that won't go away, carelessness with the amount of citric you use or the size of needle and the manner you use it in can cause veins to collapse, but this would only occur after repeated abuse. I can only advise against starting on the needle, i personally regret it, not only can it be very dangerous especially with inexperience but with infection and diseases, as well as it in itself becoming a habit, ever heard of needle fixation?

It doesn't sound to me like one has a habit, and i don't understand what smoking it unsuccessfully means.

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Somewhat informative.

[copro]

SWIM smokes cigarettes so knows how to inhale smoke but when he tried to smoke H off the foil he didn't get a buzz. SWIM could taste the H and feel it in his lungs but just no high. SWIM wasted probably a 1/4g on trying to smoke it with no effects before he gave up and snorted it instead resulting in a very pleasant feeling.

[copro]

SWIM supposes he's not really bothered about being able to smoke it, more concerned that he's wasting good H on a possibly very inefficient method of taking it as snorting may be.

[Solinari]

I am still unsure as to why one wouldn't get effects from smoking it, especially since tolerance seems low. Has one just started taking smack, and the first time, how did one take it and what were the effects?

[copro]

SWIM has been taking smack most days for just over a month now. The 1st time SWIM tried to smoke it but like he said didn't get a buzz. Then an hour later he tried snorting and it worked. SWIM felt all warm and fuzzy, very relaxed and all his problems seemed to melt away, he just watched TV and had some dinner then nodded off a few times each time having amazingly intense dreams. After a good nights sleep SWIM woke up feeling nice still with no ill effects.

[Solinari]

I am still unsure why smoking it wouldn't do anything, that just seems odd, just to let you know, you should hold the smoke in as long as possible. Anyway, if snorting it does the trick then i don't see any reason not do continue doing it (apart from the obvious thing which is it's a bad idea to continue using it anyway).

Never the less, if one is going to use it then one may as well use it in a way that gives them the full effects they are looking for. All i can say is don't start fucking about with needles, even if it is just to try plugging it, because the next time will be injecting it and i can't advise against that strongly enough.

I have been a heroin addict for years and i regret it so much, if i was in my first month again i would stop it immediately and just forget about it because heroin addiction is no life, it's just an existence from bag to bag. I am not trying to preach or anything i am just saying from experience, that a smack habit is a very bad thing (obviously) and if one is just starting then one should finish now. I can assure you that everyone that starts taking heroin thinks they can control it, or have it under control, but the reality is no one does, no one will and it will soon control you, take it from someone that knows and has been there many times.

Quit it while you still can, a heroin addiction is not just the need for smack to stop someone from withdrawing, it's a whole way of life, a junkies life, it consumes you and takes everything revolves around it.

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amazingly correct!

[CandiGirl]

I know this is a pretty old thread, but I have just found it having navied away from a previous page! Solinari.. Very much agreed by SWIM and many other H users who SWIM on this forum possibly! If SWIM had a time machine and could go back to being in month one (knowing what SWIM knows now) SWIM would have fucked it off in a second! But then again, remember the feelings you got from it then? SWIM thinks part of the attraction to the H was the feeling of maybe being different to everyone else and kidding yourself into beleiving that you'll be able to control it....! You're right though, noone can... But that 1st months the best and probably even knowing now and still the desire to fuck it right off, SWIM'd still have used it just to have that new feeling of utter bliss and........COPRO... SWIY isn't smoking it correctly... YOu have to hold it down as long as possible... Or maybe your tube (tooter) isn't correctly made.. However... snorting is more wastefull than it is practising your smoking technique... SWIM also smokes cigarettes, but it took SWIM a coupla goes to perfect it... It's not the smoke you're gonna get high off, it's the vapour. It maybe worth if you have a friend to help you get it running in the right direction for you so that you can get the flow of the vapour. But it really is a different technique to smoking.In responce to the question you put in the DOPE BAG thread... SWIM knows this gear SWIy bought... it is ok/medium quality gear. If SWIMs correct it looks very like off white plaster? It is very hard, but its not cut that much, all Smack tastes bitter to SWIM, on the foil it should run pretty clear.... ADVICE though.... don't go on to the pins... SWIM has used smack heavily on and off for 3 years and SWIM has never once resulted to the pin, SWIM has contemplated doing it... But bottles it everytime.. SWIM has to be a very dedicated chaser to get high after 3 years of use.... but even SWIM gets the first effects from smoking the first 3 or four lines... SWIM just has to persevere to make that effect strong enough for SWIM to get any benefit. In SWIMs opinion, you've probably done yourself a favour by not getting the hang of chasing and not resorting to the pin, snorting is the least effective method of consumption, so considering the lack of time also, you should have no real problems gettin yourself back to normal....