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While reading another post in another forum about benzo's,
I was reminded
of how Cocaine taught SWIM some basic meditation skills.

Yes, without benzos to get you over the backside
of a Cocaine come-down...
( an experience as bad as about any
EXCEPT withdrawal from benzoes themselves....) ..

The repetitive nauseating ennui
arising from thoughts racing through your brain
stimulated by some break-down product
of metabolized dopamine

SUCKS big-time

as you lay there tossing and turning trying to go to sleep.......


SWIM discovered that if you lay perfectly supine, and still the thoughts,
the perceived pain goes away by 95% plus.

This "aversive therapy" arising from
"thought = pain"
gave rise to a practiced capacity
to instantly still thoughts (almost) without fail at any time.
(Except when arguing with SWIM's wife,
who can push my buttons ANY ole time...)
^%^**$*$*$

It should be also noted that remaining in this capacity,
unasleep but with thoughts stilled...
provides bodily refreshment
just AS IF you had actually BEEN asleep.

Because of this, SWIM's recent training in Yoga Nidra
has been quickly assimilated.

The capacity to remain "awake while sleeping"
is the condition described and attributed
to warriers and others
who become alert and fully functional
within seconds of discerning i
ntrusions into their local environments.
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Has anyone else had experience with this????

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  Fascinating comments, hadn't thought of that before
  
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Re: Cocaine: Meditation training aversive conditioning

SWIM used to feel something like this coming down off ecstasy, she never thought about it quite like you have put it but the comedown was enjoyable. What she found weird is she usually likes to sleep on her tummy with one low pillow, but when coming off ecstasy she would lie on her back with 2 high ones, eyes closed, semi conscious but certainly not sleeping.
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Re: Cocaine: Meditation training aversive conditioning

Learn to SWIM.

But yes, SWIM had not thought of that before, but his prior meditation training certainly helped him keep sane during those unfortunate sleepless nights he made the mistake of using cocaine. He also found that if he would just still his mind long enough he wouldn't sleep but would "blank out" and come to awareness some hours later feeling somewhat rested, but still desiring actual real sleep.
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yeah, sorry, NotI is a slow learner.
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Re: Cocaine: Meditation training aversive conditioning

It's a learning curve, I'm sure you will get into the swing of things now.
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