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Old 03-01-2008, 11:28
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Coke or Meth

SWIM is interested in trying coke or meth. Which would SWIY recommend for someone with no experience with either?
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Old 03-01-2008, 16:32
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM, and SWIM is sure many others would definitely recommend cocaine over meth. SWIM has only tried coke, but has read about meth, and apparently the feelings are quite different. Meth is considered more of a dirty drug, and is also considered much more addictive. Most people would advise you to stay away from meth, and whilst coke has it's addicts, SWIM is sure there's not nearly many as meth addicts.

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Old 03-01-2008, 18:52
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM would recommend that you stay away from both of them . Both of them are highly addictive and from what SWIM hears meth is far away more addictive - why ? because it's like coke on steroids. Swim never tried meth but knows that meth blows your brain with dopamine while cocaine just supresses the dopamine in your brain not letting it out. Also meth is cheaper and the high lasts A LOT longer than coke. But meth will seriously mess swiy up. Look up on google "meth faces" even better "meth mouth"..

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Re: Coke or Meth

best thing is don't do both but BLOW isn't as bad as meth example you wanna stay up for a couple hours or couple days
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Re: Coke or Meth

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Most people would advise you to stay away from meth, and whilst coke has it's addicts, SWIM is sure there's not nearly many as meth addicts
Well meth is only popular in some coutries. Most countries you find will have a bigger coke problem. Swim isnt sure what the ratio of addiction to both substances is.

Toying with addictive substances can be very dangerous. Do the research and go from there. Swim wouldnt advise either.
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Old 04-01-2008, 22:58
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Re: Coke or Meth

Swim doesn't recommend either. His monkey has tried relatively pure coke and methamphetamine sold as extacy. Coke feels alright for a short period of time and thens sends you into an intense horrible downer. Meth on the other hand is a dirty feeling sketchy high. If you think feeling exhausted but unable to sleep or eat for days is fun, meth all the way.
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Old 05-01-2008, 00:36
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Re: Coke or Meth

Swim agrees with the other swimmers on this. Swiy should avoid trying either but if swiy is going to do one swim would say cola. Cocaine produces a stronger but way shorter high. Meth lasts a long long time but doesn't ever peak up real high. Meth is alot dirtier than coke swim would say! Swim has tried both and neither of the highs are worth the comedown but swim seems to have alot worse comedowns than most? Stay safe and know the addictive potential that both drugs have.
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM has had a long,on & off relationship with coke, but still manages a routine & very functional life. SWIM would tell her worst enemy to evade Meth, as she has done it... the feeling is SO hard for SWIM to describe, it is more internal, and very different than coke. The first time SWIM felt sick, but after that SWIM was golden, or so she thought. Paranoia is not a feeling, it is behind every feeling, and the sketcky energy has to be used constantly & in detail... Drawing, making silly arts and crafts, cleaning, cleaning, more cleaning, reorganizing... Oh yeah, thats just the first 36 hours! SWIM feels if there is a god then meth (and heroin, a whole different wonderful and deathly feeling) ARE the DEVIL!! SWIM says JUST SAY NO.
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Re: Coke or Meth

Methamphetamine. Meth's high lasts way longer. SWIY should pick up a little bit of both. Spread the use out. See how long the supply of cocaine is there. See how long the high lasts. See how fast money goes down the drain.
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:32
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Re: Coke or Meth

My friends all give a resounding "DON'T!" regarding both substances. Honestly, better never to even start. Not worth it.
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Re: Coke or Meth

The age old question. SWIM has been to parties where this was debated for hours (and even more hours) SWIM don't think its close both give you the Uppity feeling (probably M more) but they both have that effect. SWIM loves the fact that cola combines that with euphoria and natural happiness.

as the others SWIM'ers are saying i wouldn't advise either compound to someone just sharing information and opinions.

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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM would not tell SWIY to do or not to do anything. HOWEVER if SWIY has done neither and SWIM was in his/her shoes he/she would leave both well alone. Both have their positive effects (It would be stupid and a lie to say otherwise) but the down sides out way the good..............In the end.

It's SWIYS life, SWIYS choice but stay away if SWIM can.

SWIM is in no way an addict, he/she don't even smoke but he/she gets the odd craving for other drugs (especially Coke) and would have prefered not to have induldged in the first instance.

SWIM would not say 'never again' but he/she is trying to live by this 'code' now as he/she feels its the best way forward.

Just SWIMS two bobs worth and not gospel.
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Re: Coke or Meth

well swim has tried both and can say this:

the cocaine high is more esoteric, its like genuinely feeling good and confident. The amphetamine high is very euphoric but feels quite detached, it has a sort of "forced upon" quality...
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:03
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Re: Coke or Meth

This depends. SWIM will never say not to do something. Swim is a firm believer in if you want to do it then just do it. Swim has experience with both drugs, he was never addicted to either one of them though. In swims opinion you should try both in moderation. Swim also says try coke first. Swim also says they are completely different. On meth swim can do a litlle and feels very productive for long periods of time. On coke he just feels really high and wants to talk alot. That's swim's two cents anyway.
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Well Swim has tried both and agrees with other posts... Meth is way dirtier than Coke- and yes meth is way more addictive in Swimz oppinion because its a little more euphoric at first. all in all it depends on the objectives at hand. If Swiy wants to stay up and party for a really long time then Meth is the answer... However with Meth the alertness is accompanied by really oily skin, the inability to stay still the probability off doing one thing for hours accomplishing nothing..also the tendency to chew the inner lining of the mouth and grinding of the jaw without choice or knowledge. The come down can be harsh laying there trying to sleep for hours when really its like a limbo eyes closed tightly mind still racing and as soon as swim comes down swim wants more. Sex can last hours of pleasure or hours of frustration and inability to consintrate.. Where as Coke/Crack the high is still euphoric but does last normally more than a couple hours, the ability to still be social but making sense, and the come down is mellow and sleep is easy.

Final Thought... Think about what is planning on being accomplished a couple hours of partying or a couple days.
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM would take Meth if he had to choose.

SWIM hears that both are great drugs, but the Coke high lasts to little of a time, and you blow your money so fast on it. Meth, for SWIM, is much more pleasurable then coke. IMO
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM prefers cocaine to any amphetamine. Granted, speed does last much longer (therefore more cost effective), but cocaine's euphoria is enough to justify the short duration of the effects. The comedown from cocaine is the same as the high; short and intense. The same is true of the meth comedown; mildly depressing and long lasting.
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Re: Coke or Meth

first off methamphetamine is NOT nearly as addictive as cocaine imo. there are probably many, many more cocaine addicts than meth addicts. but then again it depends how one does it. swim sure as hell knows doing a line of meth or smoking meth ins't nearly as addicting as a smoking crack (cocaine base), or even more so injecting cocaine hci. swim has snorted, smoked, and intravenously injected both drugs many times. but many many many many more times cocaine, why? because it's so damn addictive. smoking or shooting coke has a rush that smoking or shooting methamphetamine will never have. and the high is sooo short that one will do it again in a couple minutes. the main reason swim finds cocaine more addicting is because how short of duration the high is and how it has more of a bang to it, there for one will do it much more frequently. but swim definately agrees meth is much more dirty. as far as snorting both drugs it could be a tie in addictive qualities. if swiy wants to try meth try eating some adderal (amphetamine salts) its JUST LIKE eating methamphetamine. they are practically the same drug. kind of like morphine and heroin they are very, very simlar. one is just a bit stronger. anyways as others have said doing neither is a great way to go as they both have addiction potential. swiy could either get addicted to one, the other, both, or neither. swim, swiy or swianyone else doesn't know what will happen as far as addiction goes when trying these substances. but then again swim has done plenty of them. it all comes down to swiy and what swiy really wants to do.
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Re: Coke or Meth

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first off methamphetamine is NOT nearly as addictive as cocaine imo. there are probably many, many more cocaine addicts than meth addicts. but then again it depends how one does it. swim sure as hell knows doing a line of meth or smoking meth ins't nearly as addicting as a smoking crack (cocaine base), or even more so injecting cocaine hci. swim has snorted, smoked, and intravenously injected both drugs many times. but many many many many more times cocaine, why? because it's so damn addictive. smoking or shooting coke has a rush that smoking or shooting methamphetamine will never have. and the high is sooo short that one will do it again in a couple minutes. the main reason swim finds cocaine more addicting is because how short of duration the high is and how it has more of a bang to it, there for one will do it much more frequently. but swim definately agrees meth is much more dirty. as far as snorting both drugs it could be a tie in addictive qualities. if swiy wants to try meth try eating some adderal (amphetamine salts) its JUST LIKE eating methamphetamine. they are practically the same drug. kind of like morphine and heroin they are very, very simlar. one is just a bit stronger. anyways as others have said doing neither is a great way to go as they both have addiction potential. swiy could either get addicted to one, the other, both, or neither. swim, swiy or swianyone else doesn't know what will happen as far as addiction goes when trying these substances. but then again swim has done plenty of them. it all comes down to swiy and what swiy really wants to do.
I can sort of agree with SWIY there. Amphetamines provide nothing put pure motor driven stimulation SWIM says. Cocaine provides him with a spine tingling rush of exhileration, no matter what the method of administration.
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Re: Coke or Meth

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first off methamphetamine is NOT nearly as addictive as cocaine imo. there are probably many, many more cocaine addicts than meth addicts. but then again it depends how one does it. swim sure as hell knows doing a line of meth or smoking meth ins't nearly as addicting as a smoking crack (cocaine base), or even more so injecting cocaine hci. swim has snorted, smoked, and intravenously injected both drugs many times. but many many many many more times cocaine, why? because it's so damn addictive. smoking or shooting coke has a rush that smoking or shooting methamphetamine will never have. and the high is sooo short that one will do it again in a couple minutes. the main reason swim finds cocaine more addicting is because how short of duration the high is and how it has more of a bang to it, there for one will do it much more frequently. but swim definately agrees meth is much more dirty. as far as snorting both drugs it could be a tie in addictive qualities. if swiy wants to try meth try eating some adderal (amphetamine salts) its JUST LIKE eating methamphetamine. they are practically the same drug. kind of like morphine and heroin they are very, very simlar. one is just a bit stronger. anyways as others have said doing neither is a great way to go as they both have addiction potential. swiy could either get addicted to one, the other, both, or neither. swim, swiy or swianyone else doesn't know what will happen as far as addiction goes when trying these substances. but then again swim has done plenty of them. it all comes down to swiy and what swiy really wants to do.
Heroin metabolizes to morphine, this is what makes them so similar. Methamphetamine does not metabolize to amphetamine. There is a great difference in comparison of methamphetamine and amphetamine-mainly talking about the dextro isomers.
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Re: Coke or Meth

SWIM says that a Methamphetamine high is much better then an amphetamine high. Actually, SWIM tells me that the two are VERY different
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Re: Coke or Meth

they are different but still, VERY similar. swim even knows some people who like amphetamine (d isomer of course) better than methamphetamine. swim likes methamphetamine better but thats mainly because of the fact it is much easier to use any way one wants to use it. it's a pain in the ass to slam adderall lol. and smoking it's probably gross. if swim just had some pure amphetamine that would be cool but who the hell gets that. at least in US. swim heard in some other country its like all amphetamine poweder and no methamphetamine. weird. still methamphetamine is better than amphetamine, but as said before, very similar. even if meth doesn't get metabolized into amp unlike her to morph swim still thinks it's a good comparison. one is just a bit stronger, but basically the same drug.
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Re: Coke or Meth

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they are different but still, VERY similar. swim even knows some people who like amphetamine (d isomer of course) better than methamphetamine. swim likes methamphetamine better but thats mainly because of the fact it is much easier to use any way one wants to use it. it's a pain in the ass to slam adderall lol. and smoking it's probably gross. if swim just had some pure amphetamine that would be cool but who the hell gets that. at least in US. swim heard in some other country its like all amphetamine poweder and no methamphetamine. weird. still methamphetamine is better than amphetamine, but as said before, very similar. even if meth doesn't get metabolized into amp unlike her to morph swim still thinks it's a good comparison. one is just a bit stronger, but basically the same drug.
Adderall shouldn't be injected there is a huge thread on the dangers if you UTFSE. Also you refer to the dextro isomer. Adderall is a racemic mixture of the two stereoisomers (levo and dextro). It is simply amphetamine, not d-amphetamine. for example, dexedrine is dextroamphetamine.

In Europe, we can get very pure amphetamine sulphate in some places. methamphetamine is practically non-existant. It isn't 'weird' it just dominates the market and is very cheap.
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Re: Coke or Meth

If SWIM really wants to try one or the other, SWIM recommends cocaine as Methamphetamine (assuming SWIM snorted or smoked the substance) results in tooth decay, not to mention nasty skin. There is a reason that the rich and famous use cocaine and not methamphetamine; its because you can be a pretty coke head. Look at Lindsay Lohan verses someone who is addicted to Meth, the pyhsical toll cant even be compared, but addiction wise there is a high risk for both. If SWIM really wants an amphetamine high then some adderall could be consumed orally. But SWIM just has to remember that smoking/snorting amphetamines will result in tooth decay, not just from jaw clenching and grinding of the teeth, but from the substance itself.
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Not true. It's due to reduced saliva, which causes tooth decay. a user should brush teeth good. Same goes for the "looks", take care of swiys self.
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