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Old 31-12-2007, 12:31
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Reagents & Locality - Are You Using The Right Test For Where You Are?

So, A Certain Mouse has been reading up on Reagent Testing recently, and has noticed that some tests are better geared towards detecting some substances than others, certainly according to the instructions & literature that come with the testing kits.

Marquis has always been known as the industry standard, & fair enough. If that is, the tester lives in, say, the United States for example. Why? Because one of the substances that Marquis tests for is DXM (Dextromethorphan), a common adulterant it seems in that part of the world, but not necessarily in others.

In Britain in recent years one is more likely to find a pill containing Ketamine than DXM - Marquis does not test for Ketamine. Mandelin however does, so should be a better choice for the British tester if one test is going to be done.

So, is it worth using Marquis in Britain or Europe? Certainly, as it tests for 2-cb which can give MDMA one hell of a trippy kick, & is definitely worth knowing about before ingesting (although the MDMA reaction may well override the 2-cb), but do bear in mind that it may not necessarily give a fair idea of what is in that pill. Of course, trends may change, & there is no reason why DXM would not start to make an appearance in British & European pills. The best bet would be to use a battery of tests - the minimal amount of product is needed to get a result, so waste should not be an issue when health & a good experience is at stake.

Any thoughts or feedback gratefully received - including studies, labrat's own findings (keep it general people - there is already a site dedicated to individual reports on pills, & this is in no way meant to start an alternative or competitior to that siteto that site; pill id posts will be shot on sight!).

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Re: Reagents & Locality - Are You Using The Right Test For Where You Are?

My friend was gonna post about this a couple days ago but didn't. What really is the best test huh? If someone wants just a quick and easy, yes or no, test, then my friend thinks Marquis is the standard, however, as posted above, it doesn't test for all.

My friend thinks perhaps it depends on just how cautious one is about the chemicals in the pills. The average Joe just wants ecstasy-like substances so one simple test is all he'll do, however those craving just MDMA and none of the other possible adulterants, he would do more tests including Mecke and Simons.
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Re: Reagents & Locality - Are You Using The Right Test For Where You Are?

I always thought that it really needed several tests to have a good chance of narrowing down what's in the pill. Something like Marquis, Mandelin and Mecke.

I've always worried that if it's known that most people use just Marquis, then they can easily put a little bit of MDMA or MDA in to make it go purple and pad it out with any of the nasties that don't react to this test, but could really ruin your night. My biggest worry would be PMA.
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