Setting - First time LSD While Camping: Bad Idea?

[missyelliott]

SWIM wants to use LSD for the first time

he plans to take it on a camping trip with his girlfriend of about 3 months, who are really comfortable together, who hasnt taken it either

would this be bad idea, because there is no sitter, with a girlfriend, at a campsite?

SWIM doesnt want to do it at home because he lives in student halls and his housemates dont enjoy drugs and there is no natural places nearby

is this a recipe for a bad trip?

cheers!

SWIM has only done weed and E, as has the girlfriend...shes dont coke also i think

[hh339]

A sitter is always recommended for the first time. SWiM would do it anyway though.

[ima-do-proprio-ser]

sitters are not always recommended for a first time : I disagree
you need someone really experienced on LSD if you plan to have a sitter
I found that having a non-experienced sitter is a fast,easy and common recipe for a bad trip.
I had 2 or 3 because of bad sitters.

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why do you keep incriminating yourself?

[poop]

Preparing for your first acid trip is not possible. Doing it with your girlfriend at a camp would not be a good idea. You don't know how long it will last, aren't sure of the actual buzz (my descrition: a complete MINDFUCK), and if the two of you end up having a bad trip, it could really be bad.

Bad trips, to someone that has never done acid, sound like a petty thing, but the simplest of things can turn your trip into a nightmare. I was having an excellent trip, then heard sirens outside, and was convinced the cops were after me and would know I was on acid, and COULD NOT get out of that mindset for about an hour.

Acid is very unpredictable, and not something to just jump into.

[ejbot]

swim would do it, but swim also has an extremely strong mind, and is experienced with meditation and lucid dreaming, which can be very similar to lsd visualizations.

dose is very important to think about as well, 1 hit of 75ug is a totally different trip than 1 hit of 150ug. swim would recommend taking a half hit each if its strong acid.

swim found that 1 hit from vendor A made for an open social fun light hearted trip, and 1 hit from vendor B made for an extreme mind fuck with lots of colorful patterned visuals, it was still great though :P

[sknkv2]

If you are comfortable in your environment then it shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps some benzo's could help you relax if things got bad. When SWIM starts to head in the direction of a bad trip SWIM reminds himself that he is on a drug and it seems to work.

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[TMM]

I'm not one to advise recklessness, but I'd say go for it. As long as SWIY and SWIYG have done their reading and preparation, they should be fine. Make sure to take only one hit, maybe less if it's known (by experience of friends, perhaps) to be strong LSD. If it's known (in the same way) to be very weak, still be wary of doing more.

The campsite is perhaps likely to induce paranoia. Not much to be done about that, really. If a bad trip is forthcoming, just accept it, and remember that SWIY is under the influence of drugs and shouldn't take himself too seriously. Bad trips happen to even the most prepared, and in this case it's no more likely than any other IMO. In addition, most street LSD isn't particularly strong at one hit, so SWIY should be okay.

[nEone]

SWIM would be more comfortable if there were others around who either weren't doing it or who HAD done it in the past. SWIM would probably do it too. For a first foray into hallucinogens, SWIM would recommend mushrooms over LSD.

Some notes.

1. SWIY is going to be camping, so SWIM assumes there will be a campfire. Don't touch the fire or the coals, no matter how pretty. Sounds stupid and obvious and overbearing now, but it can be very alluring.

2. Don't expect to have sex. Sex on LSD can be great, but it can also be weird as hell and 3 months into a relationship and the first time on the drug is a bad time to eff with that.

3. Enjoy the trees.

4. Forget about the "strong mind" bs...bad trips happen to good people. They also don't happen to a lot of people. Judge the situation as best as possible, if everything is going smooth and SWIY are both having fun and relaxed - go for it. If the drive there is stressful, or if the vibe at the campsite is off...skip it and find another time.

[WrtngCocaineTutorial]

SWIM hasn't done acid, but would he be wrong to say that in the case of a bad trip, some strong and fast acting benzo's* would termintate it within some fifteen minutes or so?

So that in case one has that it wouldn't be all that much to worry about..(?)

*such as rohypnol, or halcion..

[nEone]

^^ no idea - never heard of that before.

However - depending on how severe the "bad trip" is - SWIM's opinion is that Bad Trips can be as educational and useful as Good Trips, if not as pleasant - working through a negative experience can provide profound (if only at the time) insight and a sense of satisfaction. The intense elements (good or bad) of a trip ebb and flow with the peaks - so there's a certain organic growth to it. Time heals all.

Assuming that the dose in question isn't massive or that there aren't allergies or other unforeseeable complications, SWIM thinks that most people can handle the potentially negative moments of a "standard" LSD trip.

That said, SWIM has also lived through some of the kinds of trips where that kind of abortive power would have been MUCH appreciated - lessons learned or not.

[Capn_Danger]

It depends on the campsite, really. If you're an avid camper you probably feel at home in the woods, so no problems there. However, if you do start to get uncomfortable realize that you won't be able to drive back to town while you're high!

Take some tripping toys along. Go camping overnight and start your trip first thing in the morning. I'd recommend avoiding being high at night in the woods your first time (definitely something to try though, SWIM LOVES being high in the woods by the lake at night in the summer). Oh yes, if you can camp near a lake do so. Lakes are great tripping partners, SWIM finds.

If you do decide to do it at night, get the camp set up and the fire ready before you drop, with some extra wood and kindling. Glowsticks rock, anything that lights up kicks ass out in the woods at night. Go light on the dose, don't take more than 1 hit: you can always try a higher dose next time.

[Xeraphim]

Capndanger is right on par. It would be better to camp in a place you are familiar with, disorientation can lead to anxiety during a trip - this is best avoided with tried and true environments in which one knows how to navigate.
I think you will both be fine as long you have done your reading (this website and erowid are awesome resources) and have an idea of what to expect. Having a sitter can be good at times, but can often dull your trip esp if the person has no experience with LSD. SWIM and SWIMG make a good team and have always had very good, enlightening experiences together.
I think the best way to alleviate anxiety surrounding a bad trip is to have a Plan B. Or two plan Bs. To bring oneself out of a bad trip I have heard eating some fruit is good because it grounds you to the earth, and you appreciate this gift given to you from the world. You can also bring along a pretty rock, even an earring or something soft like a feather, small, fascinating objects help to ground oneself if the trip is getting too intense. There is also the bail-out backup plan, and this is a benzodiazepine (google it) like Xanax, i think klonopin works too. It basically flips the switch and turns off the trip kind of as a last resort.
I hope this helps you to have a fun, safe, edumacational experience with someone who is close to you

[Greenport]

That is completely up to swiY, sir. The cool thing about acid is that it delves deep into your mind to combine everything going through your brain at once, altogether. This includes the setting, what's going on around oneself, important events, people, everything - it all becomes one.

The drug distorts this reality. You may hear sounds - you may hear smells, you may see sounds, feel colors through your skin. It's magic. Anyways, if you go into the trip in a positive mood and a positive setting, you'll be good.

SwiM would check out the campsite ahead of time if at all possible and prepare accordingly. Bring extra blankets, etc - just do what you can to be ready both going into the trip (go into it happy ) and during the trip.

SwiM hopes SwiY has a wonderful time learning exactly what 'expanding your mind' means . Truly, if there is any form of magic left on earth, it is contained within these types of things.

[missyelliott]

Hey thanks people,

Swim may do it at a party now, with only close friends...thats if swim can actually get some by then.

swim would still like to do it in the woods though.

Swim also wondered whether LSD can feel like being really stoned, with the confusion e.g. Swim, while stoned, kept forgetting where he was and having to look around to see?

cheers

[sweetsweetmary]

LSD at party is a good idea. Just understand that the setting is the most important part of LSD. If you are in a comfortable environment you will more then likely enjoy yourself a whole lot more. If you are in a uncomfortable situation you will be extremely uncomfortable. Things tend to get magnified while on LSD. If one is happy, one can be really happy. If one is sad, one can be really sad and and so on. So just understand that a bad trip is just produced through uncomfortable feelings being magnified and can be easily fixed by focusing on something positive (Beaches, Good friends, Jokes, comedy shows like Dave Chappelle, comfortable music that you know, calm conversation with someone you trust). These are all good ways to steer a trip to vacation rather then hell. Think good thoughts and good thoughts will follow. SWIM didn't quite find this true with Mushrooms, but with LSD absolutely.