would withdrawal start over?

[upperdecker]

SWIM has been sniffing Suboxone for about a month only using small parts of a 8mg pill each use(used about 3 or 4 pills total). How long before SWIM were to be dependent on this drug? Or is SWIMs body already dependent on it?

[upperdecker]

Does anyone know? SWIM already Googled it but couldn't find the info he was looking for.

[JaWill88]

swiy may or may not be dependent on it. its hard to say. has swiy been using it every single day? swiy should find out. that means not taking it for at least a few days. it has a long half life and so if swiy is dependent on it, the withdrawals won't start for 2 or 3 days.

[upperdecker]

Originally Posted by JaWill88

swiy may or may not be dependent on it. its hard to say. has swiy been using it every single day? swiy should find out. that means not taking it for at least a few days. it has a long half life and so if swiy is dependent on it, the withdrawals won't start for 2 or 3 days.

SWIM sometimes skips a day here and there. But if he is dependent on it, the withdrawal can't be that bad right???? SWIM's only been using it for about a month and just little bits at a time.

[Pino]

It can be bad. It varies from person to person. Especially in a psychological sense.

[upperdecker]

What is SWIY's opinion? Do they think SWIM is dependent and will have bad withdrawal?

[Pino]

Swim doesn't have any experience with suboxone. But if one thinks it is a good moment to stop, one should stop. One can build off the dose, if it is too difficult.

[upperdecker]

But thats what SWIM's saying, there is no real dose. SWIM wouldn't even use a quarter of a tab each dose. He would use very small amounts to sniff. So I guess he was on the lowest dose possible, i guess.

[SuprSonik]

SWIY should just stop using it for a few days if he really wants to know. There will probably be some withdrawal symptoms, but it may not be too bad. How many times a day did SWIY use it? If SWIY is really worried about withdrawals, just keep halving the typical dose every week or so. Soon SWIY will be down to such small amounts that the withdrawal symptoms will be quite minor and easily tolerable.

SWIM would recommend picking up some loperamide (Imodium) as the most bothersome withdrawal effect from minor usage of opioids for him is the diarrhea.

[upperdecker]

Originally Posted by SuprSonik

SWIY should just stop using it for a few days if he really wants to know. There will probably be some withdrawal symptoms, but it may not be too bad. How many times a day did SWIY use it? If SWIY is really worried about withdrawals, just keep halving the typical dose every week or so. Soon SWIY will be down to such small amounts that the withdrawal symptoms will be quite minor and easily tolerable.

SWIM would recommend picking up some loperamide (Imodium) as the most bothersome withdrawal effect from minor usage of opioids for him is the diarrhea.

SWIM first used it once a day and was good for the whole day, once tolerance built, SWIM used it about 2 times a day. The amounts of using were getting bigger and bigger so SWIM decided he should stop. He wasn't going to use any today but used a tiny bit (as compared to what he usually uses) because he didn't get any reponses on this subject in time. My dumb decision.

[upperdecker]

SWIM really can't even remember how long he's been using it actually. It might even be two months or close to it. He really can't remember. SWIM is screwed.

[JaWill88]

swim has been on suboxone for a year now and there are definate aweful withdrawal symptoms from it. swim would rather suffer heroin withdrawal any day of the week. this is because the suboxone withdrawals are terribly long lasting. swiy should just quit while it doesn't go any further. the longer swiy is on it the worse the withdrawals will be. at this point for swiy it shouldn't be that bad. even if used every other day it can still cause dependence because the life of the drug is so long. stay off it for like 5 days and if there isn't any withdrawal then, then there probably wont be any at all.

[SuprSonik]

A "tiny bit" is fine, most people would argue that gradually lowering the dose is the best way to get off most drugs anyway as opposed to stopping cold turkey.

SWIM would recommend that SWIY takes it (and only a small amount) only if SWIY feels like crap (withdrawals) and take it less often until SWIY no longer worries about withdrawals. Attempt to take a 2 week break from using it. After that, try and keep the usage more under control (using only occasionally.) Buprenorphine has a very long half life, which makes it poorly suited to occasional recreational use. Even using only a couple times a week could get someone dependent on it.

[upperdecker]

SWIM thanks you all for your info. I hope he doesn't get any serious wd symptoms. SWIM has just one more question. If there is withdrawal, how long will it last? Minimal?

[SuprSonik]

Withdrawals from buprenorphine generally last a while, but to be honest, SWIM doesn't think they'll be very difficult or that long lasting with the dosages SWIY was taking. As SWIM said, pick up some loperamide and some ibuprofen or something and SWIY should be able to deal with them. Search online for general information on opioid withdrawals to get a better idea of what to expect, and so that SWIY doesn't freak out at some minor headache thinking it's withdrawals and end up taking more.

[upperdecker]

No more questions from SWIM. SWIY is great, thanks for answering all of SWIM's questions/concerns. He feels alot better now that it shouldn't (hopefully) be that bad if bad at all.

[upperdecker]

SWIM is on day 2 of not taking any Suboxone. Anyway, he is getting extremely cold in his hands and feet but he didn't see this symptom on any Opiate withdrawal symptoms on Google. Is it just SWIM?

[upperdecker]

SWIM hasn't used Suboxone for 4 days now and only symptoms of withdrawal have been goosebumps, diahrrea only like twice, and just being cold. Is it safe to say that this is the worst it will get? Also would it be ok for SWIM to take a tiny bit? Thats like a taper right?

[upperdecker]

SWIM really needs advice, he doesn't mean to be an annoyance.

[pixplzthx]

Originally Posted by upperdecker

SWIM really needs advice, he doesn't mean to be an annoyance.

If swiy has made it four days already, most would seem to think that swiy shouldn't take any at all.

A tiny bit will turn into a lot, very quickly.

[upperdecker]

Say SWIM did take a little bit of Sub (on day 5 without it), would his withdrawal start all over?

[upperdecker]

SWIM hasn't taken Suboxone in 5 days now and was only taking it for about a month, snorting tiny bits at a time. SWIM has just minimal but annoying withdrawal sypmtoms and was wondering what if he were to take a little bit now? Would the withdrawal start all over?

[bloot]

In SWIM's experience it would take a little bit more than one use to start the withdrawals again.. He could go through this if he used for a whole day or two.. Then stopped.

[upperdecker]

Originally Posted by bloot

In SWIM's experience it would take a little bit more than one use to start the withdrawals again.. He could go through this if he used for a whole day or two.. Then stopped.

So one use won't set SWIM back in withdrawals? SWIM is in minor withdrawal right now (he might not of worded that correctly in his first post) and just wants to make sure that the wd's won't start all over again.

[upperdecker]

SWIM's bad at wording. If SWIM used once it would stop the withdrawals right? But would SWIM keep going forward with the withdrawals or start over? Thats the best he can word it.