Dose - Intravenous doses- clarifications needed

[TheBlackPope]

Alright, the sticky had too many hypocrisies in it and Swim would like to ask some questions about the intravenous use of cocaine.

When swim obtains a gram of cocaine, he splits it into 4 lines (.25g) and snorts them all in 10-15 minutes.

If swim was to intravenously use, would their be a problem w/ shooting a whole line (.25g) and calling it a day?

The sticky said .05g was "pushing it", and swim thinks this is ridiculous. If swims normal dose is 1.00g of cocaine intranasal, why would he need 1/20th of his normal dose and be "pushing it"? It just seems like they've never done it and are saying it to be cool on an internet forum.

So, for anyone who has actually shot cocaine, not anyone else, what is a good dose for 1 shot only, not multiple shots, just one.

Also, what is the difference between shooting cocaine compared to methamphetamine or OxyContin? Should I expect my arm to go numb?

What else should I expect? It seems uncomfortable.

[old hippie 56]

From someone who been there, shooting a 1/4 of a gram was way too much. Swim scaled it down to half that with no trouble.
Swim never shot OCs, but has done a whole truckload of meth. Like comparing apples to oranges, if the meth is good, one bump in the morning was all he needed.
Finally, if your arm goes numb, you missed.

[rocksmokinmachine]

50mg, is safe enough starting dose. IV drug use is not something to be taken lightly. 250mg to me screams heart attack. Be careful, we want to see SWIY posting again.

[Fight Club]

Your mileage may vary, depending upon quality. First of all, do not assume you are only going to do one shot, then call it a day. You will most likely keep doing it until what you have is gone. If you are lucky, you will stop then.

Second - why go for broke your first time? If you have never used IV coke before, but really want to do it, why not start out with a moderate 50-100 mg. dose and take it from there?

NIK was a regular user with high tolerance and would regularly shoot .25 - .40 g per shot and use and 8-ball or a quarter per session. He couldn't do more than that, the combination of shakes / tremors and shrinking veins / swollen tissue kept him from hitting past that point. Recheck the sticky; it should have said 0.5 g was pushing it. NIK weighs 200+ lbs. and anything more than 0.4 g would cause an overdose / seizure.

BTW, think twice about doing it. Many D-F posters think quitting IV cocaine is harder than almost anything else. NIK would agree with that.

FC

[TheBlackPope]

Ok, Swim is hearing he should try half his normal lines.

The cocaine swim swill be getting is, subjectivley... good cocaine, the best he's ever done. IE Can sleep easily once it wears off, feels deeply relaxing as well as body trembles, hard to explain but he thinks theres no meth, ephedrine, adhd or cafeine in it.

Swim only has two needles, one for him and one for his chica.

The reason he can not simply do more then one shot is because one needle = one shot, according to harm reduction, unless that is propoganda and you can reshoot the same needle?

Half a tenth of a gram seems WAY too small? If he normally snorts/smokes 5x that amount, why should he shoot 1/5 of it?

So your arm doesn't go numb if you hit the vein only?

Keep in mind swim has not rigged in over 2 years. Any tips?

[old hippie 56]

Look up some of Beltane's posts on needle use. Quite a bit of info in them. 2 or 3 times is ok, swim will be able to tell when they get dull. Dull needle is more prone to missing. If swim lives in a area where buying needles is compared to capital murder(like Texas), might have to look up a harm reduction manual like "idu_manual.pdf". Good tips in there.
Coke will fool a person when shooting it, the difference is the effects hit a lot quicker and harder.

[TheBlackPope]

2-3 times?

Well either what I've read is propoganda or something else. Old Hippie have you personally used a rig 2-3 times?

Swim personally have used a rig more then one time, and he has a scar, but he also shot up instead of down and there was a multitude of factors.

[old hippie 56]

Yes, swim said he has. He has resharpen them also, using 400 grit sandpaper.

[TheBlackPope]

Ok, so swim is hearing he should shoot .15g bumps 3 times w/ one needle over the course of...say thirty minutes? And then snort the rest of the half ball over the night?

He is going to be doing this w/ this girl whos bringing an 8ball and she wants to shoot also, but she has never shot in her life.

She is under a hundo pounds. Are 3 .15g shots over an hour + half 8ball over the night chill?

[old hippie 56]

If a person has never used a needle before, swim would recommend that the person stays away from the needle. Hard to hit someone when the shooter is shaky, probable would hurt the friend.
Swim can say that if the swibp has only one rig and not much experience, just stick to the ways that is comfortable.

[TheBlackPope]

Swim will have 2 hypos.

Swim will shoot the girl up, is that bad?

[Benga]

just a little word as we go along. From the begining, my feelings on this thread is that it's describing what coud potentially turn into a very dangerous situation, a combination of inexperience with injection techniques and injected cocaine in particular, uncertainty on safe doses, and no one to help or supervise.

I know this has been done already, and appreciate it, but I woud like to stress that such a context calls for the greatest caution, and I would like to remind everyone to take these factors into account in their answers.

thanks

b

[old hippie 56]

A woman veins are harder to find and hit. IMHO, stay away from the needles and enjoy the coke the old fashion way--snorting.
It easy for old timers to rig up and slam, but teaching someone via the internet to do likewise is kinda difficult.

[TheBlackPope]

Swim knows how to take drugs intravenously, he just hasn't w/ cocaine.

Swim has never shot up another person, and because of this thread is deciding to bring another person along to shoot her up.

Swim doesn't like snorting cocaine. Doesn't work much for him, the only way he has gotten a good high from it is smoking cocaine.