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SWIM prefers K for the psych effects and for the complete removal of pain. Nitrous is good too. DXM (dexalone) makes SWIM feel sick so he avoids it
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SWIM has been reading this thread and definitely wants to give ketamine a whirl
So do most of you consider salvia a dissociative drug too? Generally it is called a hallucinogen but SWIM definitely sees what dissociative effects that it causes. Would you guys consider it a dissociative then? Dissociative hallucinogen or just a hallucinogen with dissociative like effects?
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DXM FTW
i've never tried K, and nitrus is the only other diss that SWIM has taken |
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SWIM's done a little salvia, DXM a couple times, more nitrous than a sane person would believe and more K than most people will ever get around to.
K hands down favorite. Nitrous is fun but gets old. DXM worth experimenting more with when source returns. Salvia (couple different strengths) did nothing for SWIM he'd look to repeat. - B |
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SWIM would say K is his favorite dissociative. He has dosed over a gram of DXM at one time and the effects he felt from that were similar to the after effects of a 250mg K experience. The peak of the K experience was 100 times more intense than the DXM experience. He has also tried lightly PCP laced weed, he felt some dissociation but nothing too intense.
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Ive only tried DXM, Nitrous and Salvia. you gotta like that DXM especially on a night with nothing else to do.
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SWIM has tried Salvia DXM and nitrous and he enjoys DXM the most by far. It has changes his life quite a bit and turned him from a self centered ass hole to a much nicer person. In fact I think swim might trip tonight.
EDIT: Since this post swim has tried ketamine and has found it to be much cleaner and pleasurable than DXM. Last edited by Ranke; 25-06-2008 at 00:34. Reason: update |
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
SWIM says usually he slightly prefers DXM to ketamine, though often would rather indulge in ketamine than DXM (because often DXM lasts just too long). Ketamine lacks the warm glow of DXM. Ketamine is a little less hallucinogenic and more purely abstraact for SWIM. Sometimes the colder, more analytical K appeals to him.
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SWIM has done K, DXM, salvia and NOS, and NOS is hands down his favourite, but only when mixed with other drugs like Weed and XTC. If he had to pic one to do by itself, it'd be DXM. Though a mixture of NOS and Ket is bliss.
SWIM would like to try PCP, but there's not really any chance of it. |
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SWIM has tried DXM, salvia, NOS and K (in that order) and K wins hands down. DXM lasts longer but the hangover is terrible, like waking up still drunk the next day and feeling all groggy for at least 24 hours after the trip has ended. Salvia is too crazy and too intense and too uncontrollable, but has been the one out of all of them to give the most insane visuals. NOS, especially when combined with E, is amazing fun and is SWIMs second favorite dissociate. When not on E it takes about 4 balloons to achieve full disociation but on a few pills it only takes 2. SWIM has been transported from clubs to his local pub, from his mates room at uni to his friends house a year in the past and from a mates car to a mates garden. It is amazing stuff but ket beats all.
Ket is SWIMs drug of choice, it has so many uses such as for pill comedowns, for adding an extra edge to an acid trip, to make you trip balls when combined with E and is great by itself. It's the most comfortable and relaxing, most surreal drug and a lot of fun. It has no comedown and SWIM actually feels refreshed the next day after a night on special K. SWIM loves ths K-hole as well. If only SWIM could get some now, unfortunately it is very hard to comeby at home ![]() SWIM would love to try PCP and see how it compares, however he has never seen it around the UK. He will continue his search though. |
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swim likes ketamine but nitrous is great.
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do you consider this forum as a dissociative ? (seeing we all write about Swim ^^)
swim has only tried DXM as dissociative and he love this drug! swim tried tobbaco,alcohol,weed,nutmegs,mushrooms,dxm. And like weed (as daily drug), mushrooms (as introspective and psychedelic spiritual drug), and DXM (for a relaxing and dissociative night). |
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Bongo Says: Lasting much longer than N2O, much cleaner and more controllable than diethyl ether, and capable of creating new worlds like the antipodes written about by Aldous Huxley is a molecule called Ethyl Chloride. It is NOT a controlled substance.
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
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As for the topic at hand, so I'm not totally guilty of hijacking the thread, Labmonkey has only tried DXM and NO2. He enjoyed DXM much more. He looks foward to the day he can get his paws on some ket. h.a. |
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SWIM says DXM by far.
Ethyl Chloride? I think I might even have to check that one out. |
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SWIM loves NOS, it feels perfect to him, so he recently tried DXM at 300mg hoping for something similar to nitrous but longer lasting... he was not very impressed, it felt really dark and odd in a way he couldn't quite put his finger on, and he couldn't stop talking shit for 5 hours. he says that he could tell he was thinking differently but he couldn't quite tell how... it made the world seem a bit crap rather than beautiful like other drugs he has tried... will probably post in more detail later.
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SWIM has often felt that DXM had sort of a harsh edge to it, but these days he thinks that might be due to nothing more than the nasty side effects of drinking cough syrup. On the other hand, DXM can be hard on the stomach even as a pure HBr salt.
Mixing it with citric acid helps a great deal (no nausea) - it takes away most of the harsh edge. But not entirely. The chemical itself seems to enjoy making him realize just how ugly the world can be. Yet, at the same time, it almost makes the horror seem like just another part of existence...normal and (almost) acceptable. Definitely a strange trip. ECL |
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K Love Affair
Hands down
Ketamine is the molecule that SWIM absolutely adores. And I will admit, the strangest drug for someone to be attracted to. Even though its been almost 2 years since SWIM has touched an Amp of K, She still has fond thoughts of the substance. Even though, while under K's influence, This person I met, felt a demonic urge to scratch her eyeballs out of her eye sockets, she knew it was pure craziness brought about by thinking of the worst paranoiac outcome of too much K use. She always resisted these urges, and continued to use K, for the visions of love, and feelings of bliss this compound delivered with consistency. She told me she thought that the weird thoughts and freakishness were attributed to a certain type of ketamine, that contained a psychoactive preservative, but I simply thought her abuse of K was the cause. Anybody out there had any similar expereinces to SWIM? I'd love to relay a message to her that she is not alone.... Saludos a todos, Don P |
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Swim would have to say ketamine. Swim used to experiment with dxm powder a while back, but now swim does k quit often. There is nothing more insane to swim than IM 120mg of ketamine. Swim felt like he has been dead before and accepted his fait.. but somehow managed to come out of it
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Swim would have to say ketamine is by far the best dissociative he has took and probably the best drug too, the only thing that might beat this is LSD but swim has never taken it, its too hard to get.
swim has been to the deepest parts of the k-hole where he has landed in other dimensions and weird worlds that just dont make sense. He's made a completely new universe in his mind. swim has never injected K but he has taken upto 2grams in a night and has travelled extemely far with K. in swims oppinion people either love K and think its the best thing in the world or they dont realy like it but would take it to get high if they cant get other drugs. swim knows a few people that dont like K but will still take it if swim offers them some. swim also knows people who will not take X unless they have ketamine for afterwards, swim is one of these people |
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Nitrous is definitely the most fun, and great to combine with other shit. Swim would have to say for serious exploration ether is the best, swims had some crazy fucking thoughts on ether. Although in Ketamines defense he hasnt tried it.
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
SWIM says PCP was great; K was great; DXM was great; N2O was great. lol but DXM is so widely availible so SWIM will always have to go with that; cheap too. Besides SWIM's entire class doses DXM so they have dissociative parties, lmao
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Ketamine is great. SWIM really enjoys the S+ Isomer ( SWIM thinks that's what it's called ) Ketamine.
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
Nitrous is the best in the pion's opinion. No nasty by effects and when one has enough, things can get pretty strange. Just keep going on. Elves, little creatures, lighting bolls all kind of things fly around. Things start even talk to one.
Ketamine, he hasn't ever be in the k-hole. Chronical order was totally fucked, but he could remember everything that happened. Conversations where irrational and strange. Illogical thoughts seemed perfectly normal. Neutral feeling. The cleanest of them all. Ether at first nasty, then fun, but later the alcohol effect gets in charge. Nothing special after that. Extreme euphoria. It is a bit like N2O, but stronger. Superhuman hallucinations frequently occur, which are nice to have. Later on he felt dirty about it. The idea alone makes him puke. Dxm only went to the second plateau. Interesting compound. Cleaner as ether, not as clean as nitrous or ketamine. Felt a great deal of fear the first couple of times. Still not sure, if he wants to hit any higher plateau. Salvia. Strong, didn't have a breaktrough. But felt like some force was dragging him trough the chamber. Walls start moving, everything starts breathing, he felt a bit alienated from his body. Different from the above. Seems to have a lot of potential, but pion hasn't reach it yet. He had a couple of cev. No fear, strangely enough. And basic oev's. Only strangeness. Alienated. Felt neutral like ketamine. |
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Re: your favorite dissociative?
SWIMs doesn't really have a favorite, maybe DXM. Once SWIM breaksthrough with a dissasociative he stops using them (atleast for now). SWIM has broken through on both DXM and Salvia and found them both so similiar yet different. Salvia being earth-like dissasociation, while DXM was all chemical. SWIM hasn't broken through on other dissassociatives yet though, he plans to break through on NOS soon, then shoot for the K-hole as well. SWIM is waiting a bit to try to breakthrough on PCP...
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