Anal use - you put MRHB tea in your?...

[fnord]

ok so this has been mentioned on another forum(one dedicated to plants) but from what people are saying you can administer MHRB tea/dmt intra-bumbum without the use of a MAOI.now obviosly this is good news for some people who cant/wont fit MAOI use into there diet/schedule's.what are others ideas of this? how would this effect onset/effects/duration/dose?

[Shampoo]

Onset: Slightly faster, though barely noticeable.
Duration: Shorter due to more immediate & efficient digestion
Dose: Minimized by about 35-40%, due to pKa, pH ingestion calculations. ( http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43160 )
Effects: Reduced nausea (drastically), which in itself has been known to direct a DMT experience (la purga...). Otherwise, little to no consistent noticeable variations.

[trptamene]

The activity of DMT w/o the MAOI is due to rapid absorption and rapid increase in blood levels before the MAO's can chomp off those methyls right?

What about sublingual? I'm not sure how fast this absorption is, but is probably more quick than via oral.

I don't think anyone would want to ingest tea in any other way than orally, an MHRB tea douche? One should just extract it.

[fnord]

Originally Posted by trptamene

I don't think anyone would want to ingest tea in any other way than orally, an MHRB tea douche? One should just extract it.

apparently others are using it anally: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_6EbDZnkmVw not sure if this is the right video i cant watch it because im on dialup please let me know if its not.

but heres some more info from that other forum:
She used DMT/butter anal and reported burning followed by the most intense trip of her life. Interesting idea would be to take powdered Mimosa Hostilis/butter and try the same thing. The "How long can you hold it" game you play with Mimosa pretty much sucks the big one. Idealy you would want as little liquid as possible though to reduce the chance of a run to the bathroom. Anything that Eliminates la Purge is A+++!

[trptamene]

Originally Posted by fnord

apparently others are using it anally: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_6EbDZnkmVw not sure if this is the right video i cant watch it because im on dialup please let me know if its not.

but heres some more info from that other forum:
She used DMT/butter anal and reported burning followed by the most intense trip of her life. Interesting idea would be to take powdered Mimosa Hostilis/butter and try the same thing. The "How long can you hold it" game you play with Mimosa pretty much sucks the big one. Idealy you would want as little liquid as possible though to reduce the chance of a run to the bathroom. Anything that Eliminates la Purge is A+++!

Ahh, ya I saw that video. She actually used extracted DMT and not MHRB tea. I am unaware of known reports of this tea actually being ingested any other way than orally tho. But as shampoo mentioned if one got the volume down to managable levels this may be an effective way to do so.

Swim would personally want a more pure product than a crude tea if he went this route, but this is just his thoughts on it and others can make this decision themselves.

[BillyBong]

SWIM has used an oil/DMT enema only twice (100mg DMT with 6ml olive oil) and really likes it. SWIM strongly recommends using extracted DMT crystals, because of the dosage control it gives SWIY. FYI, put a little TP or a cotton ball in your crack to blot up any oil leaks that may happen.

The first trip made SWIM feel groggy, but the second trip left SWIM feeling like a million dollars, which is interesting because the second trip was more of a meditative trance then the wacky distorted world of the first trip.

The only side effect of taking DMT this way is the temporary feeling of need to expel the oil, but that goes away in a few minutes. Wrapping SWIYourself up in a blanket helps. Onset takes about four minutes for SWIM with full effects in about 30 minutes and lasts about 1.5 to 2 hours. Future dosages of DMT will be made with less oil to reduce the mild cramping.

BTW, SWIM tried to smoke DMT, which was a horrible experience. It made SWIM's throat feel like he had the worst strep throat of his life! SWIM will never try to smoke DMT ever again. DMT enema is the way to go.

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thanks for teh info.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by trptamene

The activity of DMT w/o the MAOI is due to rapid absorption and rapid increase in blood levels before the MAO's can chomp off those methyls right?

What about sublingual? I'm not sure how fast this absorption is, but is probably more quick than via oral.

I don't think anyone would want to ingest tea in any other way than orally, an MHRB tea douche? One should just extract it.

The rapid absorption, as well as a prolonged half-life due to the absence of decomposition due to MAO, play major factors in effecting the experience. On top of this, however, much greater levels of desired neurotransmitters can be endogenously produced without a pesky MAO present, creating a more "director" experience in a more intense state of chemical intoxication, without ingesting more DMT.

Sublingually, DMT has known to be relatively inactive, mostly due to the percent of ionization in saliva during the absorption. Most reports recommend high dosing or sublingual digestion, or the introduction of an MAOI.

Finally, some people do not have the facilities, both physical, mental, and economic, to just "extract it". I understand the relative ease of an MHRB DMT extraction, but many swimmers simply do not have this option. For those unfortunate enough to be in such a predicament, a rectal tea, boiled down to reduce volume, may be the most efficient and pleasant way to ingest DMT.