Purity - mdma overdose

[gilligan_911]

what would one of these look like? and for say an average male 190 lbs/86kilo 5'-11"/1.97metres tall who hasnt rolled in almost a month, what would be the max amount of pure mdma he should ingest to trip as hard as possible without overdoing it? what are some max tolerance levels fpr others out there? oh and concerning the mdma overdose is there anything you should do besides go tot he hospital is one happens?

[Lettish]

Why would anyone want to achieve this? Less is more.

[gilligan_911]

swim understands that. the only problem is the area is sometimes full of bunk pills and sometimes smackers. and if they do smack they take a long time to hit. swim and his friends are impatient and take a bunch to make sure they get a worthy thizz.

[Micklemouse]

Smackers? Explain please. For more info on dose/response have a look in XTC basics for starters.

When it comes to any drug use patience is a virtue, & could save your life.

[gilligan_911]

oh excuse swims use of slang. smackers because when some "roll" off e they tend to smack their lips because it seems to feel reeeallly good. yes i know all about it. swim actually knows they guy whos makes the pills and is sure that nothing besides the mdma and cornstarch-ish filler/binder. no other active or inactive cuts in them. the only problem for swim is that the guy puts in almost no mdma sometimes and then makes them almost all mdma some of the time... swim knows his drugs and knows his source. he simply would like info on what an mdma overdose might look like should one happen.

[gilligan_911]

swim would also like to thank swiy for that link. sometimes he reads-over stuff too qwik.

[Psych0naut]

I can't stress this enough, especially if SWIY knows his area is full of unpredictable pills. Always get your pills tested, and if they're good, quickly buy a stash of them so you know you have a supply of safe, good pills for the oncoming time.

[Lettish]

Originally Posted by gilligan_911

swim and his friends are impatient and take a bunch to make sure they get a worthy thizz.

This is just as close as knocking on death's door. My friend says do not continue taking pills like this. What if the pills are highly adulterated? What if the pills contain PMA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstasy#PMA). Swiy could easily get in a seriously bad way from taking pills like this. Body temp could hit the roof, heart rate could shoot right up. Recipe for disaster.

Invest in a testing kit, get pills from a trusted source, stop messing around, or Swiy'll get closer to death every time. This is not the way to enjoy ecstasy.

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good advice

[JaWill88]

appearantly one would have to take 70 pills of 100mg each to reach a lethal dose in 50% of people. thats a hell of a lot of mdma. swim hopes this clears it up for all you swiys.

[Petethemeat]

SWIM would advise against this, qualitatively as well as danger wise.

When SWIM was 17 he had taken ecstasy a few times in pill forms, and noticed that he has very long come up periods- making it difficult to tell if the pills are bunk or not for a long time. Anyway to cut a long story short, he ingested 7 pretty good pills over the course of one night, after only having experienced 2-3 at most before.

He was forgetting events that happened just a few seconds ago- talking to friends was near impossible because he would just focus on something else and forget everything that had been said. Overall he definitely felt very 'fucked' but in terms of enjoyment it was actually much less fun than other low dose sessions.

Then the come down comes in, SWIM is a good actor and can imitate nearly any state, but this is the only time his parents had suspicions of him had been on something due to the massive depression that he experienced the next few days.

Long term, doing doses like that can cause (more) permanent oxidative damage, and can result in mdma 'losing its magic' more quickly as tolerance increases.

SWIM would reccomend buying powder MDMA from a reputable source, as this makes dosing easier and decreases the probability of ingesting a harmful adulterant.

[enquirewithin]

30 mg
50 - 75 mg
75 - 125 mg
125 - 175 mg Required by few (side effects increase)200 + mg
Onset : 20 - 70 minutes (depending on form and stomach contents)
Duration : 3 - 5 hours
Normal After Effects : up to 24 hours


Overdose Effects:
Vomiting, headaches and dizziness may result from too high a dose of MDMA. Some people are considerably more sensitive to MDMA than others. Be careful if you are using MDMA for the first time or using material of an unknown purity and strength. Always start low.

This what Erowid says and the advice is worth heeding. Large doses of MDMA don't give a more a 'good time' just space you out more. If you were unlucky to get PMA in pills, it would kill you. Large doses of caffeine (very common in pills) is just unpleasant.

Pills can contain any amount of MDMA, but around 75 mg to 150 may be common.

[gilligan_911]

wow sorry SWIM havent been able to reply back so quick. there are no PMA pills at all. The only thing in SWIMS pills are MDMA/MDA/MDE with maybe some caffeine or other unafective cut. SWIM knows the pill maker and he just hasnt asked for the pure power that he gets because he'd rather just buy the pills.

[gilligan_911]

oh and SWIM recently purchased a test kit so no worries there anymore. :]