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[pankreeas]

First off greetings Cannabis forum occupants. Funny how I post the least here when swim indulges in the green nuggets more than anything else.. anyways....... pot is pot.. and good pot is good pot... and great pot is... you get the picture. But how often does swiy actually smoke and get the level of intensity one would get after blazing following a month without? you know that feeling of "holy crap i'm stoned" and not just "alright i'm ready for work". Swim has come to realize that no matter the strain, tolerance is all there is to it... and it takes some damn fine weed to bring that feeling back without taking time off.

3 strains in his 13 years of pot smoking stand out when this was attained this without abstaining.

1./ Texadia timewarp 7 or so years ago
2./ Some Kush mutation last year
3./ And today he experienced it again with the Nyc Diesel strain..

Anyone else tried this diesel and had the same experience? we're talkin full on slo mo, giggles, everything is funny...

[dutch-marshal]

LOL SWIM can buy "Nyc Diesel" at the shop where he allways goes to...
go to holland :P there are allot more really great strains.. like silver haze SWIMS favourite

[Nature Boy]

The last time SWIM experienced any high of that nature was sometime about two years ago, the lack of an estimated date probably an indication of how fucking high he was. It was just another standard-priced baggie, off a dealer of his. It was completely bizarre. He was smoking a lot of weed at the time but despite that, this weed REALLY stood out. Rolling a spliff of it, shortly after finishing a college lecture and sitting on the guy's couch, SWIM expected a nice smoke and a stroll home for din-dins. This shit was seriously potent. As soon as he had finished the spliff, he was seriously baked. So baked that he could barely move. He just sat there giggling, half wishing he was lying in bed because that seemed to be the only situation that suited this strain.

His dealer told him the next day that he noticed the same thing too. He concluded that this weed was nearly too good, in that you couldn't really do anything after smoking it. SWIM agreed to an extent but mentioned the "just smoke less" routine. Fuck, that weed was really incredible. Even having been to Amsterdam twice, SWIM has not found anything like it. Maybe it was laced, but with what?! It wasn't like any drug SWIM's ever tried and he's tried a lot of drugs. He isn't usually one to boast about the quality of weed but this stuff really stood out. He'd perform a "cannabis killing" just to get another sample of it, just to put his theories to the test.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by dutch-marshal

LOL SWIM can buy "Nyc Diesel" at the shop where he allways goes to...
go to holland :P there are allot more really great strains.. like silver haze SWIMS favourite

De Dampkring and its sister shop De Tweede Kammer do a fantastic NYC diesel. It has a very citrusy flavour mixed with a bitter alcohol or fuel (hence the name). The taste that is left on ones tongue is so strong and so is the high. Very cerebral, leaning towards its sativa heritage.

[dutch-marshal]

NYC diesel: "Indica: 80% Sativa: 20%"

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by dutch-marshal

NYC diesel: "Indica: 80% Sativa: 20%"

60% sativa 40% indica. There is contridicting information all over the internet. SWIM says its sativa heritage stands out ALOT more, as there is a more noticeable cerebral 'high'.

[Shampoo]

'There is contridicting information all over the internet"

Part of this confusion is due to the recent reclassification of the cannabis subgenera. Cannabis Sativa is now the official genus, with subgenera as follows: what was previously known as sativa is now Indica. Indicas due to their origin in the middle east, are now part of the subgenus Afghanica (not just affie, but all of the former Indicas). Finally, the subgenus Kafiristanica for the Diesel family, not just a phenotype, but a subgenus. As for Diesels, their introduction to western cannabis is relatively recent, as they have been used in mildly esoteric shamanic practice for many thousands of years. They provide and extremely potent and speedy high, usually accompanied by a citrus scent and flavor, though as an cannoconnoisseur knows, flowers and flavanoids aren't always consistent. They high reported by pankreeas's friend is most likely the result of very high CBN levels, resulting in a wildly increased efficiency for THC uptake. The resulting high THC levels result in a speedy, cerebral high, that remains functional, yet can certainly have its "stoney" benefits. The Diesels have recently been cited however as the leading cause of anxiety and "reactional schizophrenia" due to their tendency to induce paranoia, a reason they have rarely appeared on the market until more thoroughly bred and phenotyped by the skilled engineers of the 90s, the true boom of cannabis production and consumption. Enjoy the Diesel, its a great flower.

[rocksmokinmachine]

As far as I'm aware, sativas are tall plants with skimpy yields, flower much later (requiring more attetion and skill from the grower) and have always been indigenous to sub-tropical climates such as Jamaica, Thailand and Columbia.

Cannabis indica is a short, stubby and compact plant with dense flowers. It is a hardy plant that is indigenous to higher mountainous countries such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Nepal.

I am not aware of any changes. This is just causing confusion. You do seem to know what your talking about but no-one told me of any reclassification of the cannabis sub-genera, and SWIM is very much involved in the 'trade', considering himself a canna-connoisseur.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

[Shampoo]

The definition changes in subgenera are mostly taking place in medicinal and breeding communities, who desire an understanding of canabis each cannabis subgenus based on tis genetics, rather than the growth patterns of each plant. Any experienced grower has seen a "sativa" grow like an "indica" and an "indica" grow like a "sativa". As cannabis is an exceptional "seeder", meaning it produces massive amounts of highly varying phenotypes (resulting in all purple plants and the like), it cannot be classified by its growth patterns like most plant species can, and the intense breeding periods that these plants go through doesnt help with classification either. As for an official posting of new cannabis subgenera, expect to see it in the 2008 Websters, as well as the new cannabible and whatever other literature SWIY consumes for info like this. The primary reason for providing this clarification however was not to alert anyone to changes in subgenera taxonomy, but to highlight "diesel" strains as a seperate family of plants. They are commonly lumped in with other "sativas" as a more potent phenotype, or perhaps a hybrid, but they are actually part of a subgenus known as Kafiristanica.

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very informative post, good work, thanks

[w_rabbit]

i must say swim had had a few of the same experances swim does enjoy the desil strands but swim has not yet sampled nyc. white strands on the other hand are by far swims favorite from ice to northern lights, swim is currently placed in cali and has a pot card so nyc will be in the buy list for him

[rocksmokinmachine]

Pot card?

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by rocksmokinmachine

Pot card?

Trivial way of saying medicinal marijuana prescription....

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

Trivial way of saying medicinal marijuana prescription....

I was always under the impression the California state government controlled the production of medicinal cannabis, I was unaware different strains were available as such.

[Shampoo]

Unfortunately, the regulation is less than predictable, and though quality and compassion are higher than street-meds, many believe the medicinal marijuana facilities to have no advantage over street buys. The primary benefit of these dispensaries however is that swim can find the perfect med for each time of the day due to the extensive breeding menus offered by most facilities. A little Snow Cap for the morning, some RK Haze in the afternoon, and Mink Kush in the evening...

[w_rabbit]

very true its fairly nice that swim could have a rage of choices in the matter

[dr ACE]

NYCdesiel is great bud, very nice fruity taste. Mexican-Afghani hybrid swip read on net somewhere

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by dr ACE

NYCdesiel is great bud, very nice fruity taste. Mexican-Afghani hybrid swip read on net somewhere

You are correct. The Afghani heritage provides it with a rich, pungent aroma, with undertones of java coffee. While the Mexican sativa roots gives it that distinct sugary sweet sandalwood scent that provides it with the classic 'diesel' citrus/fuel falvour. It is almost the perfect combination, both in smell, taste and effects.