Rolling while Depressed

[thizzlewiggler]

If someones currently depressed and they take ecstasy what will happen. Will they feel effects of it or will it have on effect b/c they're depressed? Just curious b/c im about to thizz 2nite but i have bi polar and am slightly on the down side of it right now. Let me know...Thx!

[Ps]

HI Thizzle
3 days post E, your gonna hit it hard. But just remember, your not allowed to commit suicide on day 3 post E. If you still wanna do it on day 5, go get some help to stabilise your mood again. Generally, if ive shit going down in my life, and im stressed, or down, on those occasions that i take E, the 'tuesday blues' are more intense.
You get out of a drug, what you put in, so they say

[Agent Orange]

SWIM had this tendency to get periods of depression. Some years ago she tried several substances in this regard, after responding very bad to SSRIs and TCA drugs. While common psychedelics, like LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, and peyote/san pedro, seemed to give SWIM a great relief for weeks or even months after taking them, she could not abide by mdma, and stimulants. Even alcohol, cannabis and ketamine/PCP-like drugs made it worse
Told me MDMA and the weird opioid nalorpine and ketamine analogs, were just taking her way further down "in the depts" of her depression. SWIM also reported thet she had to be off of SSRIS for more than a week, for getting a normal unattenuated and revealing experience from psychedelics. It didn't matter if the "trip" was pure grace or a rather rough ride. The Antidepressive effect tended to start a couple of days after the trip, even if it was what most people would call a "bad trip", it seemed better than any other drug, and made it much easier for SWIM to function socially
.. This was her account, and I am prone to believe her!
To me it seems depressed people should take great care in aproaching any potent psychoactive drugs, including drugs like those the doctors call "antidepressive"...

2,4,5-T

[brunobrookes]

Mate seriously don't do it - taking ecstasy while depressed will probably make you crash ten times harder, and could potentially make you suicidal. I have a friend with bi-polar and although he has taken MDMA before without any major side effects, he did so during one the more "stable" periods of his illness. I'm no expert but I imagine that you are taking some sort of mood stabilizers, and ecstasy will only serve to fluctuate your natural balance. Maybe wait until you are feeling a bit more positive until experimenting?

[drugsIZbad]

i would deff not reccomend it. Recently swim rolled and experienced some frightening side effects that have never happened to swim during post-roll. swim is also on duloxetine for depression, so swim definately would not do it again, but thats just swim. from what swims learned from these forums is that pills are one hell of a drug, be safe with them.

[KyleM]

Scientifically, long term depression with someone who has never taken MDMA will actually create an ideal chemistry in the brain for MDMA to operate with. One just needs to make sure that there are no pressing issues at the actual time of consumption. A current adverse situation will diminish any high no matter what drug it is.

[gilligan_911]

Swim thinks that rolling while depressed might not be one of the better idea out there but maybe what swiy is looking for might be just a little above the threshold dose so it will give swiy a bit of a lift but not a jaw-gritting floor rolling trip that could throw swiy into an even deeper depression on the comedown. try and find some molly or half a good pill to experiment with.

[burgerman]

some1 i know suffers some long term depression/bitterness/crankiness and is about to take e by himself in a week or so, but plans to be happy during the experince and make some good of it all. hopefully it will pull swim right out of negative thinking.. he'll be ready for the comedown tho!

[jmakin]

SWIM can say right now that he was extremely depressed today, popped 2 pure MDMA pills, and while it has helped him get through the hard times in his mind in the past, it isn't helping you with the actual issues that are going on in your head, you aren't gaining anything but temporary satisfaction, and are just doing more damage to yourself. Not to mention the downswings of coming off will definitely be overwhelming to SWIY if you truly have an untreated mental condition, and if it is being treated, wellllll you shouldn't be taking E at all, ever, but SWIY knows that I'm sure. Seek help, it's the only way to overcome this.

Plus, SWIM can tell you right now, his depression is so bad at the moment that he can't even properly focus on the amazing trip he's having, so, at the very best, it will ruin a fun experience, and hopefully won't land you in jail, and at the very worst, you can and may lose your life or do further damage to your already damaged mind. (that sounds cruel SWIM knows but he is putting himself in this category). So, what do you really have to gain from this?


but SWIM is one to talk, right?

Originally Posted by burgerman

some1 i know suffers some long term depression/bitterness/crankiness and is about to take e by himself in a week or so, but plans to be happy during the experince and make some good of it all. hopefully it will pull swim right out of negative thinking.. he'll be ready for the comedown tho!

SWIM begs you to beg your friend not to try this, just read the previous post, SWIM is doing right now what this thread is talking about and even with all the positive feelings and emotions that are being bombarded at him he STILL knows that it's fucking him up, and the negative emotions are STILL there. Which shouldn't even be possible with pure MDMA, but SWIM's tested it and knows his shit's real, so just saying, a depressed mind works a lot differently than the average person's mind, and MDMA has not been researched that much, so SWIM would just really plead his friend to never, never, never try this and seek help. The dangers far outweigh the benefits.

Drugs are not the answer, and only by doing them has SWIM realized this. Kind of ironic

And SWIM is gonna follow these posts up with an update about how shitty he feels tomorrow, because he's sure he will. This was a mistake, he's realizing even now. Tomorrow's gonna suck.