Combinations - Cocaine and alcohol

[Chris]

OK,swim only isan occasionally user of (snorting) coke, 0.25-0.75G in an evening, let's say once in a 6 week basis.


(with prices of XXX euro's which is XXX dollars, for 1 gram that's no wonder!)


Strange thing is, when swim uses it, his heartbeat races, he gets an overall anoying feeling and feels overall shit.


BUT when he uses (the same shit) in combination with alcohol, then it's real heaven.


WHY is this, normally people would get a nice buzz from the coke alone, buth with swim it only works out fine when taken in combination with alcohol.


(swim tried it 4 times in a year without alcohol, all 4 times were a waste!)

[Iggypoop]

Hmmmmmm, i'd prolly just stop taking it! Did you know that mixing coke and alcohol results is a compound being made in the body called 'cocaethylene' which is far more toxic than taking coke alone? Do a google on it, theres plenty of information on the subject.

[sands of time]

Coke probably makes you feel way to edgy and the alcohol kinda counters this effect. Iggy is right, though, about the hazzards of the combo.

[Woodman]

Chris, that's the way I like it, too.

A few lines go REMARKABLY WELL after I've put on a
good alcohol buzz, first. It really brings out the
"euphoric" potential of the coke.

I have no clue as to why.

Also, if you do coke first, and then drink, it just
doesn't seem to work.

[DURBANS]

Yes, drinking after coke doesn't work.


Do you guys usually do coke alone? Here in my country people say it's a "must" because if you don't drink to "soften it up" then you'll get a stroke.

[PenguinPhreak]

Iggypoop is absolutely correct, cocaine and alcohol form cocaethylene which accounts for the different feeling.



"With
a pharmacologic profile similar to cocaine, it can block the dopamine transporter
on dopaminergic presynaptic nerve terminals in the brain. It increases dopamine
synaptic content, provoking enhanced postsynaptic receptor stimulation,
resulting in euphoria, reinforcement, and self-administration. Equipotent
to cocaine with regard to dopamine transporter affinity, cocaethylene appears
to be far less potent than cocaine with regard to serotonin transporter
binding. Lacking the serotonergic-related inhibitory mechanism, cocaethylene
appears to be more euphorigenic and rewarding than cocaine." - from Cocaine.org</font>

[Shadybab]

Who here needs to drink when they are doing blow? SWIM has to drink if they are going to do blow. PROS and CONS anyone?

[AceOvArts]

Actually it dont bother SWIM if he drinks alcohol or not. Though it can take the edge off coke.
What is nice is after having a few beers and then doing a line it will stop you feeling so drunk, unfortunately after you come down from the coke the alcohol hits backlike a hammer
This is why load of people drink like a fish while snorting then fall down drunk as a skunk at the end of the night when the powder runs out.
Very funny to watch.

[ramjet]

If SWIM is doing small "functional" amounts (a few 50mg lines) during the day (doesn't happen often) to keep alert, focused or make work slightly more interesting then no.

If (majority of the time) SWIM is doing coke socially SWIM HAS to have alcohol

1) most importantly because if SWIM does too much coke without booze, SWIM gets really agitated, gittery, with lots of pent up energy. The booze is a much needed calming influence, keeping you chilled, relaxed, happy and focused. You keep the coke high without the jitters. Obviously booze acts as a depressant, balancing the stimulant effects of the coke.

2) because the high is much nicer and longer (probably due to the cocaethyline, possibly because you are just mashed and don't mind as much when the coke begins to wear off)

[klaatu]

Swim has been doing a little research on this and has come to the conclusion that in his case he much prefers Coke with alcohol. It should be noted that Swim only ever smokes Coke and does not do lines.

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[MRYAYO]

Hey there guys. Swim has some good events coming up this weekend. Hes a novice cola user and wants to drink his usual tequila and maybe have some cola on the side. Now ive heard its not a good idea to mix cola and alc but he has never been able to get a reason why. Anyone willing to explain

[IHrtHalucingens]

The two react creating a new substance called coethylene which is more toxic to your liver than either of the two alone, however its been said that it produces its own unique effects as well. Many people greatly enjoy the combo, SWIM included. If your willing to accept the risk then its no different than doing any drug. As with anything moderation is key, go ahead and enjoy the combo for your events this weekend but dont make a habit of it and you'll be fine.

[MRYAYO]

thanks for giving swim the heads up.. he definatly doesnt plan on makin a habit of it or maiin a habit of doin cola... im a super super recreational user lol.. but swim sure does love his tequila!!!!

[dr.gonzo]

Ah, coke and alcohol... Swim actually doesn't like doing coke by itself (usually combines with opiates, alcohol, or both), but drinking while doing lines seems to make the coca last longer, at least for Swim.

I actually wrote an entry in Urban Dictionary about it awhile ago:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=cocaethylene

So yeah, it is most definately fun, but as IHeartHalucinogens said above, moderation is key. Hope your experience went well.

[TXRoughneck]

If one is engaging in the insufflation of cocaine, it is unlikely that the combo with tequila will cause irreparable harm to one's body in a single session. However, intravenous ingestion of cocaine combined with alcohol vastly increases strain on the heart. Seriously, SWIX is a medical professional (for what that's worth). Be careful. Basically, if yer snorting shit off the street, yer okay. If yer shooting shit, or snorting super primo shit in South America, just lay off the liquor.

Many of SWIM's friends find it much easier to drink (beer) when doin cocaine because they say the numb throat just lets it slide down. SWIM finds this to be nowhere near true. He takes one sip of beer and is burping for an hour, and gags almost about to throw up. Anyone have an explanation for this? could it be sniffing too much? (i dont mean sniffing too much coke but just sniffing, too much air getting into his stomach and the beer just compounds it?

[Benga]

I don't have any ideas on this specific problem but for future reference you should consider renaming this post "alcohol and cocaine".
whereas cocaine refers to different things such as the alkaloid in Hcl for or not or the cut product sold on the street as such, coca is the name of the plant from which the said alkaloid is extracted.
And altough coca contains cocaine, it is far from being the only alkaloid in the plant, does not produce the same effect as cocaine etc...
Coca is not cocaine, and I think it's misleading to call cocaine coca, both for clarity and political reasons. This might be the slang word you use, but please try avoid using it in your header at least if you really feel the need to use it.
Sorry to be ranting here,I usually don't, but I thought your post was going to be on coca and alcohol, which is one of swim's interests.
To be honest, I must admit that I'm not a great fan of using street-names or slang terms for substances here. Another one I find slightly annoying is cola. Cola, or kola, is nut containing caffeine, and a flavouring ingredient in soft drinks called cola.
Another thing about slang is that not everyone uses the same, or gives it the same meaning, or actually knows it, "blow" apparently has different meanings in different places (cocaine and...cannabis) this is an international
community, and people might not be in the know.

there, I've said it. your title was misleading and I prefer it when people avoid slang terms, in general.

b

[Nature Boy]

SWIM finds it easier to drink while on cocaine, probably why he avoids the stuff.

[KomodoMK]

The majority of people SWIM knows do drink more when using cocaine but for a different reason. Whilst I don't understand how it works, when you use cocaine it is very hard to get pissed, it seems to sober you up, and so at such a time when you may call it a night, you can actually keep going. This can lead to problems of it's own though.

SWIM has been known to use cocaine when he is already drunk just to sober him up a little so he can enjoy rest of the night out.

[Benga]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

The majority of people SWIM knows do drink more when using cocaine but for a different reason. Whilst I don't understand how it works, when you use cocaine it is very hard to get pissed, it seems to sober you up, and so at such a time when you may call it a night, you can actually keep going. This can lead to problems of it's own though.

SWIM has been known to use cocaine when he is already drunk just to sober him up a little so he can enjoy rest of the night out.

yes. problems sometimes arise when cocaine stops acting, and one ends up very very drunk and ill. Or the morning after, throbbing liver and feeling totally wrecked.
Same thing applies for ephedrine and quite a few other stimulants though...

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[BCHILLZ]

SWIM has read that mixing coke and alcohol is potentially fatal, but he knows people who have done it. SWIM has heard its pretty good. SWIM just wanted to know whether or not SWIM should do it, and how much is overdoing it.

[marquezz]

SWIM does coke and alcohol regularly when he goes clubbing. starts off by getting a strong buzz, a drink or two away from feeling drunk and then does half a gram of snow with a friend or two. SWIM feels a nice balance between drunk and high, becomes even more social after a couple fatties. it aint fatal if you dont abuse it, just do enough till you feel all hyped up then you're done.

SWIY should try it...in my opinion...no harm in drinking and having a little bit of sniffles here and there.

[Nikolan]

Actually SWIM has read a few articles how the cola and alcohol combine in SWIY system to make a new chemical called cocaethylene that doesnt give SWIY much more of a high, but certainly makes SWIY's heart beat much harder and faster, thus increasing chance for heart attack/failure compared to each drug alone in SWIY's system.

[Alekseev]

Originally Posted by BCHILLZ

SWIM has read that mixing coke and alcohol is potentially fatal, but he knows people who have done it. SWIM has heard its pretty good. SWIM just wanted to know whether or not SWIM should do it, and how much is overdoing it.

SWIM has heard that it creates coca-ethylene, a toxic cocktail. He has never done this, though...

[penta]

Swim has known a few friends who combine these two substances together and enjoy them a lot. If swiy doesn't wanna take a big risk, swim thinks that swiy should start off with a small dose of coke and a few shots of liquor. If swiy is feeling okay after doing this, swiy could try doing a little more coke at a time. Everybody acts differently to drug combinations, so swiy shouldn't take the risk of taking a massive dose of both due to possible heart problems or even worse.