Health - Quitting the use of cannabis

[mseerob]

How many of swiy's had thoughts of quitting due to the fact that it has causes health problems it has caused, getting bored of it or for other reasons? Swim has had some thoughts on quitting because a 2-4 hr high is not worth it compared to getting bronchitis and other related issues in the lungs and unwanted side effects which swim stated on this thread

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...t=35544&page=5

If swim even decides to smoke cannabis again it will most likely be once every couple of months....

[Nature Boy]

Using a vaporizer would remove whatever concerns you have in regards to lung damage.

[FuBai]

Lung related issues are always a problem with smoking plant materials, however they can be bypassed by either oral consumption or vapourisation. However whatever drug you use you will in some way be harming yourself. The question is not whether a drug is safe or not, the question is whether you think that the health consequences are a worthy price to pay for your use of the drug. Drug use is a balance, an exchange, you trade the experience of the drug for health problems. Is it not said that he who seeks pleasure must endure pain?

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by FuBai

Drug use is a balance, an exchange, you trade the experience of the drug for health problems. Is it not said that he who seeks pleasure must endure pain?

Although true to some extent, I must disagree with that statement. Drug use does not automatically create health problems. Excessive drug use yes, but as you said, it's a balance. People can live perfectly healthy lives using drugs. It isn't the norm, but it is possible.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by FuBai

Lung related issues are always a problem with smoking plant materials, however they can be bypassed by either oral consumption or vapourisation. However whatever drug you use you will in some way be harming yourself. The question is not whether a drug is safe or not, the question is whether you think that the health consequences are a worthy price to pay for your use of the drug. Drug use is a balance, an exchange, you trade the experience of the drug for health problems. Is it not said that he who seeks pleasure must endure pain?

Agreed with everything you said and swim thank you for replying to this thread...

Swim looks at it as a "you live and you learn" experience. Swim has smoked enough cannabis and now he decides to either become a "rare occasion smoker" meaning smoke a spliff once every couple of months (2-6 months) or just abstain from it forever...

[Lethargy]

My friend SWIM intends to quit as of New Years Day. Well quit habitual use. He will accept a toke or two on social occasions but from past experience he says he knows after quitting for a bit that one or two will **** him up so he has motivation to abstain unless in a very comfortable social situation.

He essentially likes psychedelics more than anything else and occasional use of cannabis allows him to treat it like a psychedelic, as in he can use it on special occasions for insight and inspiration, or to enhance an already nice situation (camping, etc.)

He knows he can abstain without problems, he has abstained for about 4.5 of the 7 years he has used cannabis. His use tends to run in cycles he says.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by Lethargy

My friend SWIM intends to quit as of New Years Day. Well quit habitual use. He will accept a toke or two on social occasions but from past experience he says he knows after quitting for a bit that one or two will **** him up so he has motivation to abstain unless in a very comfortable social situation.

He essentially likes psychedelics more than anything else and occasional use of cannabis allows him to treat it like a psychedelic, as in he can use it on special occasions for insight and inspiration, or to enhance an already nice situation (camping, etc.)

He knows he can abstain without problems, he has abstained for about 4.5 of the 7 years he has used cannabis. His use tends to run in cycles he says.

Thats really awesome!! That's smart....

Swim's got a question, if you stay away from it for a couple of months (2 or 4+ months) then you decide to smoke it again, will the high be like how it was the first time you smoke it or will you just be really high but not like the first time?

Swim believes that occasional use of cannabis is great! like no big deal whatsoever but when its used everyday (recreational use not medical use) even one joint swim believes its not good. Again swim has asthma and has been in the hospital from smoking cannabis (Swim does not smoke cigerattes or cigars) twice as well has getting bronchitis (no joke this has happened) so swim plans to cut down significantly so these things don't happen again plus the other side effects mentioned already like feeling lazy, sleepy and unmotivated etc.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by mseerob

Swim's got a question, if you stay away from it for a couple of months (2 or 4+ months) then you decide to smoke it again, will the high be like how it was the first time you smoke it or will you just be really high but not like the first time?

Could any clarify this for swim plz?

[abraham]

Originally Posted by mseerob

Could any clarify this for swim plz?

swiy will just be really high, but most likely not like the first time. Maybe if one quit for like 20 years one could get that first time high, but maybe not even then.

[Euthanatos93420]

Originally Posted by abraham

swiy will just be really high, but most likely not like the first time. Maybe if one quit for like 20 years one could get that first time high, but maybe not even then.

Well yes and no....Swim had one equitable experience to smoking the first time. is first time was seriously OUT of this world. He was so fuckin' stoned he forgot he was stoned. Some time ago he found himself on the west coast smoking' some really good grapefruit smellin' shit. One small bowl had him as blazed as the first time he smoked. Granted he hadn't smoked for about a week and a half but still. Nowadays swim doesn't smoke but maybe once a month or every other month. The other day he hit a 6 footer. Everyone was tellin' him he was gonna puke and pass out and he just laughed at em and talked shit. He cleared a full chamber without even coughing (which is fuckin' ridiculous because Swim coughs EVERY time he smokes weed...) but the stone was equitably intense and slightly disorienting.

A little bit of abstinence and good quality and/or a good bong can make a serious run at that 'first time experience' and memory can fudge the margin. ;-)

[penta]

Swim has also decided to stop using cannabis for the time being for both his own reasons, and other reasons (lost connections, ect). Swim hasn't smoked in over 4 weeks now, and swim hasn't felt a single withdrawal. Swim is actually quite happy that he quite smoking because he was spending way too much on buying cannabis, and now that swim's done smoking, he can save up his money for more important things.

There still are days, however, that swim dreams of smoking a nice blunt again with swims buddies. Even though swim still thinks about this, with the help of swim's anti-anxiety medicine, swim is able to continue living life normally. Maybe one day, too, swim will start up smoking again, but for the time being, swim is perfectly happy with living the "smoke free" life.

Anyways, congratulations swiy for quitting. It definitely is a hard challenge, but well worth it once you learn to live without the use of cannabis.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by penta

Swim hasn't smoked in over 4 weeks now, and swim hasn't felt a single withdrawal. Swim is actually quite happy that he quite smoking because he was spending way too much on buying cannabis, and now that swim's done smoking, he can save up his money for more important things.

Congrats!! Swiy is doing good so far. Swim knows what its like spending lots of money of it then realizing how much of a waste it can be to buy cannabis on a regular basis..

Originally Posted by penta

Anyways, congratulations swiy for quitting. It definitely is a hard challenge, but well worth it once you learn to live without the use of cannabis.

Thank you! It is a challenge but swim knows that he can do it. Swim would also like to know, upon those that do not have asthma or any lung disorders do anyone experience any respiratory problems when they smoke cannabis on a regular basis? Like lung damage or lung infections...?

[penta]

Swim has developed bronchitis twice before from smoking. One time, swim had bronchitis so bad that he couldn't stop coughing up blood. The stupid thing on swim's part was that swim didn't even stop smoking during both times that he had bronchitis causing it to go on longer than it was suspected.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by penta

Swim has developed bronchitis twice before from smoking. One time, swim had bronchitis so bad that he couldn't stop coughing up blood. The stupid thing on swim's part was that swim didn't even stop smoking during both times that he had bronchitis causing it to go on longer than it was suspected.

Damn....

Did swiy smoke cigerattes too or just cannabis?

[penta]

Swim only smoked cannabis. This was very shocking to swim because he had heard from many of his friends that cannabis does not cause any problems with your lungs or throat. Thankfully, swim finally got over both cases of bronchitis (only two weeks apart), even though swim did not stop smoking. It scared swim to death when he woke up early one morning and started coughing up blood, and he was in shock when he began to realize that it was from smoking cannabis.

Before swim was hit with bronchitis, swim would be able to run up to 5 miles a day after smoking. After he got over his bronchitis, it became very hard for him to smoke then go running due to the fact that swim kept having to spit out massive amounts of mucus.

[mseerob]

Originally Posted by penta

Swim only smoked cannabis. This was very shocking to swim because he had heard from many of his friends that cannabis does not cause any problems with your lungs or throat. Thankfully, swim finally got over both cases of bronchitis (only two weeks apart), even though swim did not stop smoking. It scared swim to death when he woke up early one morning and started coughing up blood, and he was in shock when he began to realize that it was from smoking cannabis.

Before swim was hit with bronchitis, swim would be able to run up to 5 miles a day after smoking. After he got over his bronchitis, it became very hard for him to smoke then go running due to the fact that swim kept having to spit out massive amounts of mucus.

Wow and he thought that swiy smoked cannabis along with cigerattes.

swim is very shocked to know about this because he thought this would most likely happen to those who's lungs are not in perfect shape. At least swiy is ok now good stuff. He also thought that cannabis was ok to smoke and wouldn't cause any damage or infections.

[espo195]

Swiy has to take it upon swiyself to make these important decisions. Swim suggests a break. And then whenever the urge hits swiy. Go with it. Or alternatively swiy could decide only to smoke on certain occasions.

[Alekseev]

SWIM hasn't used ever since he got busted with a couple pounds...

[penta]

Wow, that's intense. How'd swiy get caught with it? Police or parents?

[Alekseev]

Originally Posted by penta

Wow, that's intense. How'd swiy get caught with it? Police or parents?

SWIM screwed up bad. His family was not very happy.

SWIM suggests that people find a different way to quit the use...

[penta]

Haha, yea swim agrees with you. Swim got caught too many times by his parents, but swim would just keep on smoking. It finally got to the point where it was either quit smoking, or send swim to rehab....

[espo195]

Originally Posted by penta

Haha, yea swim agrees with you. Swim got caught too many times by his parents, but swim would just keep on smoking. It finally got to the point where it was either quit smoking, or send swim to rehab....

lol, sendin swiy to rehab for pot... that's hilarious.

and mseerob, in my experience when i quit for a while there is no diminished effects when i return to smoking. High is just as good. If you quit after chronic use and then return to it, you might get even higher. Usually due to their lowered tolerance and trying to smoke as much as they did b4. Hope that helped

[burgerman]

I remember my cannabis smoking at one stage meant i had some bad lung problems and i had to use a special kind of inhaler with dusty shit in it to fix myself up, and I actually stopped taking that shit because getting stoned was more important than my lung health. very sad.

[FrankenChrist]

Originally Posted by burgerman

I remember my cannabis smoking at one stage meant i had some bad lung problems and i had to use a special kind of inhaler with dusty shit in it to fix myself up, and I actually stopped taking that shit because getting stoned was more important than my lung health. very sad.

You must have had it bad. The powder you had to inhale was probably to cure some kind of infection, I once had to take something like that for a bad bronchitis.

[cra$h]

swim has just quit smokin weed. he get's to paranoid, and cant really relax and enjoy, matter of fact, swim couldnt even get into music like he once had. plus swim finds the high rather boring after a while, unless doing things like running from cops, but on the other hand it makes swim beat as hell. swim finds salvia 5 million times better than almost any marijuana