Experiences - Mephedrone (2-Methylamino-1-p-tolylpropan-1-one) experiences

[trptamene]

Please add your experiences with Mephedrone here. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:

Originally Posted by EXAMPLE

Dosage: 12 mg in one glass juice
Route: Orally
Duration: 2 hours

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• duration of main effects
• main effects
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• after effects
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Info about this drug (other than experiences) should be discussed here: Drug info - Mephedrone (2-Methylamino-1-p-tolylpropan-1-one)
These documents about Mephedrone are in the file archive
Mephedrone pics
Research Chemicals Index - Tryptamines
Research Chemicals Index - Phenethylamines

Mephedrone powder:


Mephedrone crystals:

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[T.K]

• Weight:10 Stone
• Gender:Male
• Dose:50-300mg(mixed with unknown quantities of other Methcathinone analogues/pro-drugs)
• Route of ingestion:Oral/Insufflated
• Setting:At computer, listening to some dance music.
• duration of main effects:Come up-10/20 min, Peak-45/60 min, Comedown-60/120 min.
• main effects:Euphoria, Empathy, Music appreciation through the roof etc.
• side effects:None appart from lack of appetite.
• after effects:None
• rating of the experience
• addictive qualities / abuse potential:Addictive-No, but morish. Abuse-High, up there with cocaine due to morishness and lack of negative effects.
• any other valuable information: Taken as a mixture containing 4-MethylMethcathinone along with Metamfepramone and Phthalimidopropiophenone.

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[T.K]

Originally Posted by T.K

• Weight:10 Stone
• Gender:Male
• Dose:50-300mg(mixed with unknown quantities of other Methcathinone analogues/pro-drugs)
• Route of ingestion:Oral/Insufflated
• Setting:At computer, listening to some dance music.
• duration of main effects:Come up-10/20 min, Peak-45/60 min, Comedown-60/120 min.
• main effects:Euphoria, Empathy, Music appreciation through the roof etc.
• side effects:None appart from lack of appetite.
• after effects:None
• rating of the experience
• addictive qualities / abuse potential:Addictive-No, but morish. Abuse-High, up there with cocaine due to morishness and lack of negative effects.
• any other valuable information: Taken as a mixture containing 4-MethylMethcathinone along with Metamfepramone and Phthalimidopropiophenone.

(Sorry to quote, I accidentally posted without writing SWIMS report)

T-0:00
SWIM insufflated approx. 80mg of the Mixture(smells like vanilla bleach?).
T-0:01
SWIM got a nasty synthetic tasting drip. Gave swim shivers/rushes. Quite plesent, a desired effect in future experimentations.
T-0:15
SWIM is coming up nicely, tingles down his spine. Feeling the urge to dance and socialise.
T-0:25
SWIM is Peaking, nicely Euphoric, talking shit to his friends.
T-0:30
Swim insufflates approx. 100mg line. Shivering is very plesent, almost orgasmic?
T-1:00
Swim downs a gel cap with approx. 250-280mg of the mix.
T-1:20
Swim is compleatly fucked, Euphoria is insane, Short term memory going a bit loopy. Feels like good Ecstasy/Methylone.
T-2:00
SWIM is coming down gradually, still feeling nice. Needs to drink plenty of water. Lack of appetite etc.
T-4:00 SWIM is compleatly sober, no comedown whatsoever. No insomnia or any negative effects. Feeling pretty good actually.

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[ThirdEyeFloond]

Feedback has started to pop up here about this substance, some folks are rapporting good effects on 25-50mg so those considering trying it should start low. I'm writing this because the vendors rapport seemed to suggest much higher doses before it was edited.

[Psych0naut]

Dosage: 200 mg orally + 100 mg insufflated
Duration: 7/8 hours

SWIM took 200mg of Mephedrone last night, orally, as well as 100mg nasally twice, spread over a time span of around 3 hours. Total duration was around 7/8 hours. SWIM is a male of 55kg(~130lb). He planned on writing an experience report for the entire duration, but it took an unexpected turn. To make it short, it turned out to be a very therapeutic experience, thanks to it's empathogenic effects.

He won't go into detail to what exactly happened, but he had a magical experience, maybe even mystical. At T 0:30 the euphoric rush first started to began getting distinguishable from baseline, and at T 0:40 it was coming up strong, and feeling very simmilar to a good dose of MDMA. At around T 0:60 SWIM was probaply peeking, though he stopped taking notes at T: 0:45 because of the events that followed. Music enhancement, euphoria and empathy weren't as strong as with MDMA, but that could have been because of the dose, but MDMA probaply stays the undisputed king. His experience with Mephedrone proved to be one of his best drug experiences in his life, though that had a lot to do with the events that happened during the experience, SWIM had a very therapeutical session, so to speak. Something no other medication or shrink could even come close too. Some more experiences will have to be done to make a precise judgement about Mephedrone, but SWIM rates it second, but a close one, to MDMA.

SWIM also made a picture of a pile of the remaining 800mg, after he filled the gelcapsule. The ruler next to it is graduated in cm. Here it is:
Mephedrone 800mg.JPG

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[astenu]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

SWIM took 200mg of Mephedrone last night, orally. He planned on writing an experience report for the entire duration, but it took an unexpected turn. He won't go into detail to what exactly happened, but he had a magical experience, maybe even mystical. At T 0:30 the euphoric rush first started to began getting distinguishable from baseline, and at T 0:40 it was coming up strong, and feeling very simmilar to a good dose of MDMA. At around T 0:60 SWIM was probaply peeking, though he stopped taking notes at T: 0:45 because of the events that followed. Music enhancement, euphoria and empathy weren't as strong as with MDMA, but that could have been because of the dose, but MDMA probaply stays the undisputed king. His experience with Mephedrone proved to be one of his best drug experiences in his life, though that had a lot to do with the events that happened during the experience, SWIM had a very therapeuthical session, so to speak. Something no other medication or shrink could even come close too. Some more experiences will have to be done to make a precise judgement about Mephedrone, but SWIM rates it second, but a close one, to MDMA.

Good to hear SWIM experimented with the oral route. How long would SWIM estimate the experience to last before "comedown" begins? How hard was the crash this way? Thanks

[Kahless]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

SWIM took 200mg of Mephedrone last night, orally. He planned on writing an experience report for the entire duration, but it took an unexpected turn. He won't go into detail to what exactly happened, but he had a magical experience, maybe even mystical. At T 0:30 the euphoric rush first started to began getting distinguishable from baseline, and at T 0:40 it was coming up strong, and feeling very simmilar to a good dose of MDMA. At around T 0:60 SWIM was probaply peeking, though he stopped taking notes at T: 0:45 because of the events that followed. Music enhancement, euphoria and empathy weren't as strong as with MDMA, but that could have been because of the dose, but MDMA probaply stays the undisputed king. His experience with Mephedrone proved to be one of his best drug experiences in his life, though that had a lot to do with the events that happened during the experience, SWIM had a very therapeuthical session, so to speak. Something no other medication or shrink could even come close too. Some more experiences will have to be done to make a precise judgement about Mephedrone, but SWIM rates it second, but a close one, to MDMA.

SWIM likes MDMA but can find it not sociable and energetic enough. SWIM read on a Danish forum that mephedrone's effects are like 'amphetamine-coke' or 'aphemtamine-mdma. They described the effects as a mix of all 3. Wouls SWIY say this was accurate, mephedrone being a speedy more sociable version of MDMA?

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by astenu

Good to hear SWIM experimented with the oral route. How long would SWIM estimate the experience to last before "comedown" begins? How hard was the crash this way? Thanks

At around 4/5 hours in SWIMs experience. There was no crash, but SWIM did fiend for more after coming down from the 200mg oral dose, after which he took another 100mg nasally in the following 2/3 hours. The somewhat fiendish nature is a drawback in SWIMs opinion, but the lack of a hangover the next day, even after a large dose, compensates that a lot. If SWIM would have taken an equal dose of MDMA, without taking a SSRI afterwards, he would have felt much worse next day, but instead, SWIM felt fresh and actually even better than he felt for a long while. SWIM did take several mg of Rohypnol(flunitrazepam) to help him sleep as it would have been impossible to sleep without it, nor would it be if he wouldn't have taken a stimulant(SWIM has had very severe insomnia last months, and has a prescription for the Rohynol)

Originally Posted by Kahless

SWIM likes MDMA but can find it not sociable and energetic enough. SWIM read on a Danish forum that mephedrone's effects are like 'amphetamine-coke' or 'aphemtamine-mdma. They described the effects as a mix of all 3. Wouls SWIY say this was accurate, mephedrone being a speedy more sociable version of MDMA?

SWIM would disagree about Mephedrone feeling like anything coke related. His ego softened like butter, instead of harden like steel like on coke. SWIM found Mephedrone very social, but he finds MDMA a very social drug as well, so his opinion won't probaply be of much value in SWIY's case. He found the stimulation and speedyness equal to MDMA, mellow and relaxed in normal doses, but very stimulating, even pushy in high doses.

[Psych0naut]

SWIM did not notice any visual changes, except for a slightly blurry vision, which is common for him with high doses of MDMA as well. It didn't cause any time dilation, probaply rather the opposite. He had a very long conversation, and when the person he had been talking to said he was tired and going to bed, SWIM took a look at his watch, and many hours had passed. It felt like time passed twice as fast as usual.

To elaborate a bit about the "pushy" feeling SWIM had, and which he experiences on high doses of MDMA as well, he really enjoyed listening to some music, but just couldn't listen to the same song for more than a minute, or he had to switch again. He was surfing on the internet the last part of his experience, but couldn't view the same website for any reasonable amount of time as well, he just had to keep switching to other things, a bit annoying at times. But this was purely causes by the intake of a high dose, he has it with high doses of MDMA as well, but on normal doses he is much more relaxed, and feels less pushy.

[Kahless]

What does SWIM mean by 'fiendish' nature of the compound? Do you mean any addictive elements?

Did SWIM find there was more of an amphetamine edge to mephedrone than MDMA?

Gram for gram would 200 mg of MDMA be stronger or weaker than the same of mephedrone?

[Psych0naut]

MDMA is twice as potent as Mephedrone, he took 200mg orally, which would have been equal to 100mg MDMA orally. With the the fiendish nature, SWIM meant he had a strong desire to take more on the tail end of the experience, which he in fact did. Twice. SWIM found the amphetamine like stimulation probaply equal to an equivalent dose of MDMA.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Kahless

To SWIM then this compound has the good parts of methylone (smoother than MDMA on the come up and come down) and MDMA (euphoria and music appreciation).

Regards the fiendish nature could SWIM become addicted? SWIM found this with methylone because of the extremely smooth entrance and exit to the trip. In this way SWIM hopes for mephedrone to have this but with the MDMA punch to the senses that methylone lacks.

Would this be accurate?

SWIM felt pretty compelled to do more when the Mephedrone was subsiding, redosing untill all of one's suply is consumed could be a very real possibility, but it all depends on the nature of the consumer. SWIM has had less desire to redose with MDMA compared to Mephedrone though, SWIM only redosed 2-3 times out of hundreds with MDMA. If one knowns of oneself he/she has problems resisting the urge to redose with Methylone, Mephedrone should be avoided as well.

[enquirewithin]

This is a report written by a friend of SWIM's cat. It is nothing to do with either myself or SWIM! He commented that this material is somewhat like methylone or bk-MBDB, but of shorter duration. The duration is dependent on the dose taken.

• body weight & gender: male, 180 lbs
• dose taken: 100 mg + 200 mg + 210 mg
• route of administration: rectal -- in a gel cap
• Setting: in what environment it was taken.
• duration of main effects; 10 hours (or so)
• main effects: euphoria, stimulation
• side effects: dry mouth, tense jaw, lack of appetite, sleeplessness
• after effects: nervousness (stimulant 'paranoia') tiredness, dysphoria
• rating of the experience: 4/5
• addictive qualities / abuse potential: high-- a great desire to re-dose was noted
• any other valuable information: comparable to beta ketones

Set/setting: I have read positive reports about this material and am keen to try it. I am at home in a safe environment.

T=00:47 am: Not a good time for experiment but the only only slot available. (I chose rectal administration because I have found that the most effective with bk-x's.)

T=0 100 mg rectal (gel cap). A white powder which has a strong chemical odour, which also smells somewhat like stale urine!

T= 00:07 beginning to feel excited but that maybe just anticipation…. (no burning sensation as with methylone!)

T= 00:17:00 I feel as if my heartbeat is going faster.

T= 00:27 Feeling some twinges of something…. Feel fairly stimulated and slightly lightheaded but sill functioning on my PC sorting files. I’m catching my breathe slightly as I do with methylone and other materials. How much is from what I have read—and expect?

T= 00:30 Some euphoria now.

T= 00:34 Euphoria deepening. Feel good but not with a pushy feeling. I am somewhat nervous. Now I have an urge to write.

T= 00:39 Very positive, although I think there is more to this material than this. Yes, music sounds good. I like this. What is it like? The closest is methylone or bk-MBDB, but with a lighter feel, so far.

T= 00:44 Still building. Have that “I feel good and complete” mindset and want to keep it, but still wish for more!

T= 00:52 Certainly stimulated but in control. I think I’ve reached a plateau now.

T= 00:54 Wearing off now? That’s quick!

T= 1:08 The impulse to take more is compelling. My mouth is very dry.


T= 1:15 200 mg rectal (gel cap)

T= 2:00 A feeling of excitement is growing now.

T= 2:37 Getting more deeply affected. My vision is slightly blurred and I am finding it hard to concentrate. This is a positive feeling. Less inclination to write now.

T= 3:08 This is pleasant. A smooth, relaxed stimulant. I feel very euphoric, looking at stuff on my computer, but frequently drifting off in to reveries, trains of thought. This is a satisfactory level. The material has definite erotic qualities, like other beta ketone compounds.

T= 4:03 Still working quite well, but tapering off.

T= 6:42 210 mg rectal. I gave in to the desire for more. The desire for more is always there-- typically for stimulants.

T= 6:57 Full euphoria returns, but the peak is only about 30 minutes or so, followed by a tapering off periods of an hour or so which is still fun.

T= 8.50 Still can’t sleep. I have felt that I could sleep, but can’t. I’ve been up all night and have all the nervousness and disquiet you might expect. I wouldn’t say that there were no after effects, but a lot that could be attributed to lack of food a sleep (I have no appetite). (Next time I will take some benzodiazepines at the ends of the experience.)

T= 10:00 (approximate) 5g kratom. This made my mood better.

T=12:00 onwards. Managed to get some fitful sleep. Slept on and of all day. Taking more kratom got me through and evening going out for a meal with some friends. I felt quite drained all day. I have every intention of taking this again. The short duration and euphoria make it a promising material to experiment with.

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[Psych0naut]

That's what SWIM meant with the fiendish nature of Mephedrone, a big downside if you ask SWIM.

[radiometer]

My buddy Eddie has a hard enough time keeping his total methylone dosage to a reasonable level, mostly due to the short action, so I think he's going to give this one a pass. Perhaps a gram just to try it for the sake of variety. This doesn't really sound any better than or much different from methcathinone TBH.

[enquirewithin]

Yeah, SWIM's cat (a fiendish cat) was not very controlled with his methylone either, or so I have heard.

The comment that this material is like methcathinone is pertinent. It's more a stimulant than an 'enactogen' like MDMA. 'Neodoves'/ 'sub-coca' are likely very similar too.

[bman1]

MOD EDIT:

Dosage: t=0 200mg, t=2:15 325mg. Total dose=525mg
Route: oral
Duration: 5.5hr


Swib meet a nice couple of Baboons the other day. Swib got to talking and the baboons were talking of this substance Mephedrone. Swib was curious so asked the baboons to talk a little about what they remember about their experience. The male baboon weights 155lbs and in his mid 30s and has a wide range of drugs use from hard drugs with needles, to RC and piperzines ect. for 20+ years. He now only is a daily smoker and dabbles occasionally (a few times a year) in something else. The female baboon is in her late 20s and only started experimenting when she met the male 8 years ago but still has more experience that the average baboon. Only hard drugs coke and speed maybe 2 or 3 times a few lsd trip, mushies, 2cs and MDxs not any piperzines. She is also a daily smoker but dabbles mych less. They stated that earlier that day around 11am they each ate a pint of vegetable soup and 2 small veggie tofu burritos.

Setting in the baboon’s home cage. They figured since it is new they would stay there. Half spent watching movies.

4:00pm Dosed 200mg each oral is a veggie cap (gelatin free some say these take longer to digest)

4:20pm Smoke a vaporizer of so dank

4:25pm Both had a warm sensation, similar to the come up of a MD type of drug. What they thought was different as with Mds and methylone it is in the entire body with them, this seemed to be a more stoning thing manly in the head but could almost concentrate enough to feel it in the body.

5:00pm same sensation not elevated or dropped

6:00PM Feeling seems to be fading nothing to exciting so decided to take the rest

6:15pm each took 325mg more oral along with 2 10mg lortab, male took viagra
even though there had been no more sexual desire than usually between the two that though why not

6:30pm right back up a little stronger

7:00pm. Both male and feel are getting eye wiggles. Feel very good, but both still notice it as a more stoning than a warm body thing. Decide to go to the bed room

7:30 still strong male was able to obtain an erection. Slight extra sexual stimulation but not as strong as others. While on Mephedrone neither male nor female were able to orgasm.

Maybe 9:30 both seem to be back at base line
female able to fall asleep
Male takes 30mgs diazepam. Falls asleep shortly after.

All in all, they both enjoyed it and will try it again, They think they had their expectations set to high. Very short lasting. Also seems more Stoning than entire body buzz. And they more can seem why some say it is more amphetamine like than MDMA. On MDMA and methylone both male and female are totally relaxed and can just lay there for hours. With this that relaxing feeling was missing. There was a little extra energy but nothing like a line a speed or anything close. Just not relaxing.
Their last experince with anything was methylone 4 months prior so tolerance should not have played a roll.

they also noted feeling normal the next day no hangover type feeling

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[astenu]

Originally Posted by bman1

Swib meet a nice couple of Baboons the other day. Swib got to talking and the baboons were talking of this substance Mephedrone. Swib was curious so asked the baboons to talk a little about what they remember about their experience. The male baboon weights 155lbs and in his mid 30s and has a wide range of drugs use from hard drugs with needles, to RC and piperzines ect. for 20+ years. He now only is a daily smoker and dabbles occasionally (a few times a year) in something else. The female baboon is in her late 20s and only started experimenting when she met the male 8 years ago but still has more experience that the average baboon. Only hard drugs coke and speed maybe 2 or 3 times a few lsd trip, mushies, 2cs and MDxs not any piperzines. She is also a daily smoker but dabbles mych less. They stated that earlier that day around 11am they each ate a pint of vegetable soup and 2 small veggie tofu burritos.

Setting in the baboon’s home cage. They figured since it is new they would stay there. Half spent watching movies.

4:00pm Dosed 200mg each oral is a veggie cap (gelatin free some say these take longer to digest)

4:20pm Smoke a vaporizer of so dank

4:25pm Both had a warm sensation, similar to the come up of a MD type of drug. What they thought was different as with Mds and methylone it is in the entire body with them, this seemed to be a more stoning thing manly in the head but could almost concentrate enough to feel it in the body.

5:00pm same sensation not elevated or dropped

6:00PM Feeling seems to be fading nothing to exciting so decided to take the rest

6:15pm each took 325mg more oral along with 2 10mg lortab, male took viagra
even though there had been no more sexual desire than usually between the two that though why not

6:30pm right back up a little stronger

7:00pm. Both male and feel are getting eye wiggles. Feel very good, but both still notice it as a more stoning than a warm body thing. Decide to go to the bed room

7:30 still strong male was able to obtain an erection. Slight extra sexual stimulation but not as strong as others. While on Mephedrone neither male nor female were able to orgasm.

Maybe 9:30 both seem to be back at base line
female able to fall asleep
Male takes 30mgs diazepam. Falls asleep shortly after.

All in all, they both enjoyed it and will try it again, They think they had their expectations set to high. Very short lasting. Also seems more Stoning than entire body buzz. And they more can seem why some say it is more amphetamine like than MDMA. On MDMA and methylone both male and female are totally relaxed and can just lay there for hours. With this that relaxing feeling was missing. There was a little extra energy but nothing like a line a speed or anything close. Just not relaxing.
Their last experince with anything was methylone 4 months prior so tolerance should not have played a roll.

they also noted feeling normal the next day no hangover type feeling

Besides the eye wiggles, was there any face/neck tension or other physical side effects noted during the experiment?

[bman1]

Originally Posted by astenu

Besides the eye wiggles, was there any face/neck tension or other physical side effects noted during the experiment?

No tension at all, the baboons rarely get tension with Mds though. They just love to stretch on them since it feels so good. The stretching feeling was not there with this substance probably because of lack of body euphoria but there was a nice body feeling very light but pleasant. Tactile sensations lacking a little These baboons are intalks with another expriment just waiting for their next chance.

[Durd1e]

Weight: 16 stone
Gender: male
Doseage: 200mg x 2
Setting: at computer and in living room
Duration: 5hrs total
Main effects: physical euphoria, stimulation
Side effects: mild insomnia, elevated heartbeat, mild muscle clenching
Rating of the experience: 7/10 (slightly generous)
Addictive: a big no
Abuse potential: certainly
Other: possibly and odd effect combined with beer

Effects of the first 200mg began after 1 hour (probably due to full stomach) but started to fade again after another hour. Upon redosing the experience became a whole lot stronger, to the point where swim was not sure if he could appear normal. By no means overpowering but strong none the less. Perhaps it has a steeper dose response curve than M1 and similar?

Quite dissimilar to methylone in that it seems far more physical and much less emotional but this will require more research in social situations to verify. Was pleasurable throughout if a little unexciting. More research definitely needed and worthwhile swim reckons.

Interestiing to note - upon drinking some beer to aid sleep the rushes swim experienced became a lot more enjoyable and noticeable.

More to follow in a week or two...

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[Benga]

note - due to this experience's particular twist, this is not really an experience report. just a little feedback / first impressions after a busy meeting with the substance

male 75kg
dose hard to establish, probably in the 300mg zone ( shared, insufflated from weighed out 100mg capsules...)
route of administration : masochistically insufflated only
Setting: social, someone's home drinks and ham and cheese - low key thing "maybe going out after dunno"...
duration of main effects : hard to say because of combination, no real curve or peak, still felt the next day
side effects : muscular tension and a little clenching- but not sure

interesting interesting... again sorry for this experience's "unscientific" imprecision-
let's say we heard of someone's incubus bio-assaying the said 2-Methylamino-1-p-tolylpropan-1-one. alas, the incubus was placed in a festive social environment which lead him to partake in other substances, though moderately, such as clearshot's 1,3-Dimethylamylamine ( half a clearshot bottle, sips throughout the evening) less than 100mg of insufflated 2-methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)propan-1-one ( methylone) to see if it would be synergetic, and a few beers... no possibility to write out a correct experience report for the incubus.
but overall a pleasant evening, and day after which involved some more mephedrone.
first impressions, for what they're worth, of that incubus' experience are that progressively insufflated mephedrone is a rather mild stimulant, though 25 to 50mg insufflated doses are actually felt. hurts the nose, blood clots and thick yellow mucus the next day...
total dosage was hard to trace. 100mg doses had been encapsuled, but they were taken along the evening "a la" cocaine and shared after a while, hard to tell- more than 200mg and less than 500mg
very pleasant in that it is not overwhelming, no real euphoria but a positive mood enhancement. It is a quite "clear headed", and in that similar to cocaine, but with actually less empathy and enthusiasm. A great "talker" of a substance, good for chatting the night away. physical stimulation is present as well but due to the particular combination, hard to distinguish / pinpoint.
boosted libido, with plenty of naughty thoughts and words involving bodily fluids- one would expect no less from an incubus- but, alas, quite anticlimactic, read impossible to reach a physical or mental climax during motivated sexual stimulation. blah.
the incubus got home at 5am. and actually managed to sleep with no assistance, for a good... 4 hours, before getting up still quite fresh and dandy even though it's silly- a trademark of the incubus on stimulants- stimulation was still there, but could also have been the geranamine...
mephedrone was taken again the next day, 100mg but the physical fatigue from the lack of sleep did not help in defining the experience more clearly.
this day after experiment, unusual for this not very prone to binging incubus, was fueled not by jonesing, as the urge to redose was not strong, but more by obviously feeling like crap after 4hours of sleep and facing the choice to redose a little and see if the substance could be identified more precisely or sleeping in the middle in of the day.
nothing conclusive, the incubus ended up not eating all day and a little hyper until 9pm when his lady-incubus ( succubus ?) dropped by and made fun of him for being so unusually awake like this-
the incubus explained the evening and silly day-after, cooked and forced down some pesto pasta with a beer while blabbering on about "maybe going out again tonight, know it's not reasonable, but probably can't sleep hook up with friends around 11 blabla" before digestion, and 50cl of japanese beer kicked in, mellowing the incubus down on the couch into a sleepy stupor, and finally hitting the sack at 11pm...
what was the most interesting is that there seemed to be no actual comedown, depression / disphoria, but considering the mood enhancement itself was not really euphoric, this does make sense.

in conclusion, the substance seems promising. Nothing to throw one over the wall in progressively insufflated doses, no real waves like methylone, no real identifiable peak, but a rather mild and pleasant social stimulant which seems surprisingly clean the next day, and apparently not too hard on sleep.
pulls more one the cocaine side of things than the MDMA, but yet without the ego boost or candid enthusiasm of cocaine. the stimulant effects will have to be assessed more clearly with no "clearshot" in the air. the incubus felt pretty energetic, not wired, but let's say eager to clean the kitchen. for someone quite slapped on its serotonic bottom by "the days after"- a good dose of methylone for instance- with usual consequences being a heightened sensitivity and emotions and poetic fragility, air-head brain and often desires to quit what seems like routine ( which can be quite positive), mephedrone sounds like a potentially viable hedonistic alternative, mild and superficial but with also less aftermath issues.

b

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	brilliant report, very detailed, nice one

[Benga]

as a slight follow up to the incubus' previous dream, a few precisions and addendums to these first mentioned effects.
Trismus / jaw clenching does come from the "mephedrone". quite present.
physical stimulation is mild, more in the increased endurance category than a jumpy fidgety thing. hands trembling but manageable.
not too tough on the heart it seems.
One 5 min "panic" walking outside, which was quite simular to one of the incubus' early MDMA experiences- minus the wave's euphoria. walking towards the subway, not long after an insufflated line, feeling fine chatting away and then---cotton legs, feel very light, bodied, headed and faint. actually feeling like one is going to pass out then and there, mind flooded with thoughts of OD and lying in a pool of vomit on the sidewalk, slight panic as one wonders how high this wave is going to be- passed in a couple of minutes, just had the time to tell the friend what was happening, firend who went into a slightly out of context "sitter" mode reminding the incubus that he was on something when the sensation was so purely physical, not mental confusion- felt the wave past and kept walking. fine. no other similar events during the experience.
facial flushing also seems like a reccurent part of the experience. definitely visible on pictures taken.
clear headedness was mentioned- well, not so clear headed actually. the substance is not that euphoric, and thus makes it easy for one to maintain a functional social front- but also harder to think in a way, and concentration impaired- guess is it would not be ideal as something to work with or as a nootropic.
effects on sleep are mild - does induce a little insommnia but it's not an absolute sleep killer. incubus finds it quite easy to sleep relatively soon, and unassisted after the last dose, much easier than other stimulants anyhow.
ingested doses do not hit like a brick. rather subtle build up.
again no real euphoria, less than M1's, which isn't all that bad. combinations with M1 seem to have potential for use in certain settings.
again, no real comedown or jonesing reported. suprisingly clean in that effect.

edit- incubs tried to ignore this one as silliness or linked to spillage, but it seems worth the mention for curiosity's sake. the incubus sweated some during the last experience, and it seems that the sweat was charged with a strong mephedrone smell. which stuck to the dirty clothes, t-shirt, socks and the like. was noticed as clothing was dumped in the dirty laundry It was finally decided to check up on this before running the machine. A few days later the smell is still there, no olfactive hallus... hum...
another noted side effects are very powerful hypnic jerks for a few days after dosing.
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[Benga]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

SWIM did not notice any visual changes, except for a slightly blurry vision, which is common for him with high doses of MDMA as well.

swim got this to the point of being unable to type out an SMS on a cellphone. had to close one eye move the phone away and it was still very hard to focus. like instant acute presbyopia. lasted a couple of hours.

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[dr ACE]

Weight;- 10 stone
Gender;- Male
Does;- 500mg (spread over 4hrs)
Route of administration;- Intranasally, orally
Setting;- living room of house watching T.V movie
Duration;- 2hrs after effects 1hr
Main effect;- Euphoria, Stimulation, Increased music appreciation, Heavy sweating, Compulsive behaviour
Side effects;- Time distorion, Makes you smell, Shaking, Confidence increased, Nystagmus
After effects;- Cravings, Deppresion, Anxiety, Sore nose
Overall rating;- 8-10
Addictive/tolanrance;- Very addictive compulsive, Bingy, Cravings when effects dissapear
Anything else;- Compound smells/tastes terrible, Sweat smells terrible for days after use

~At around 7.30pm 120mg of '2-Methylamino-1-p-tolylpropan-1-one' was ingested on an empty stomach. Then 100mg was taken snorted up the nose in 25mg increments. The first alerts were noticed in 15mins the effects become fully aparrent after 25-30mins exactally. The inatially rush of euphoria is very intense and can easliy be compared to MDxx compounds, the only down side is that after about an hour this euphoria begins to subside and your left with the feeling of warmth and stimulation plus the compulsive desire for more of that initially euphoria.

~Thus more '4-MMC' was administered intranasally in 100mg does taken in roughly 25-50mg lines. This stuff really burns your nose and makes the eyes water. It produces an intense rush of euphoric/stimulation almost instantly?, after a snurge/snort. After taking this compound on numerous occasions mostly via the intranasally route Swim would have to advise against this route for large does anyway. It would seem that it IS quite damaging to the users noes when taking in large ammounts over a short period of time and is more compulsive/addictive in its nature when used like this. Swim has found after using it via this route it causes nose bleeds,blood clots and general pain to nasal cavities( this is after heavy use)

~ Overall swim would have to say this compund is very enjoyable but the short duration and addictive nature means that this is one compound that swim is not going to be using on a regular basis. Swim also noticed a twinge/pain in chest on left side from heart after heavy use. Suggesting to swim anyway that this is not a safe chemical by any means, definitely not when taken in large ammounts in a short period of time. If any swim have history of heart problems or general health is poor use of this RC should be avioded. Like most powerfull stimulants moderation is the only way to get the best effects/ value for money. Use this stuff wisely done abuse it that would be swims advice

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[snusmumriken]

(I am very sorry this is so long. Hopefully it is worth reading, but I cannot guarantee it.)

SWIM is nearing baseline. He is at home by his computer, listening to Karunesh, feeling amazing far beyond words. The evening was spent with one very good friend of SWIM, and one friend whom he doesn't really spend much time with alone, because they are quite different. This guy is among the cool guys; emotionally he appears not to be very open, he goes to parties and does cocaine, he wants a nice car and a nice bitch. Personally I am not at all like that, and I've never really liked him too much, perhaps due to a perceived lack of intellect and reflection.

So, this is about mephedrone. SWIM has only been into psychedelics for a very short time, maybe a month and a half if we exlude some experiences on hashish. This means that while SWIM has tried a few psychedelics on a few occassions, he has never ever experienced anything remotely like the stimulant effects he gets from mephedrone, he says. Looking at the stimulants, SWIM has tried coffee, but that's just about it (and in very small doses). I don't know if you can imagine his shock the first time SWIM tried mephedrone. It was perhaps three weeks back. He was all home alone, and it was early. Using a syringe SWIM injected 140 mg into his rectum, and ten minutes later, sitting quietly and expectantly by himself, the effects struck all of a sudden. The primary effect was a very physical one, SWIM says he felt like he was in heaven, reporting that his body felt unbelievably good. The secondary effect was one of intense fear. SWIM felt that he was already addicted, and even though SWIM considers himself a very happy, content and mentally strong person, in that moment he truly doubted his mind's ability to cope with the comedown from something so intensely satisfying. He knew what to do, however, and that was merely to enjoy the moment. Cope with problems as they come along, and they will most likely be many fewer than if your mind has the habit of imagining problems ahead (which is likely to make them real). So there he was, possibly having one of the best times of his life. He felt reluctant to move in fear of the body stimulation somehow ceasing, but eventually (still during the peak) he decided to try it out. Like most people, SWIM cannot fly without the aid of machines, but walking while on mephedrone truly felt like he was flying. So light did he feel; he could do absolutely anything, and while the urge to do something wasn't there, like SWIM heard it would be on speed, he could really do anything. Not having showered for a few days, SWIM decided it would be an excellent time to do it. Naturally, it resulted in one of the most orgasmic experiences he'd ever had. It was a long shower, and coming out of the bathroom he was already on his way down. The urge to take more was very strong, but he proudly resisted for an hour, when he eventually managed to put the idea of taking more entirely out of his mind. That day he felt amazed ("how can white powder make me feel so good?") and scared. SWIM talked to his younger sister about his experience---who has carefully ventured along with him into the psychedelic territory---telling her that such drugs cannot possibly be good for any being on this planet. Despite having acquired this attitude towards stimulants stronger than coffee, he expressed a desire to only once try mephedrone in a positive, social context to test its alleged empathogenic effects. You see, that evening he didn't feel any, probably due to being by himself.

After this experience SWIM reports having tried mephedrone on another two occassions. One very early morning, also home alone with no duties, he did an unknown amount of mephedrone, because he was finishing the physically quite big plastic bag by putting some hot water into it, closing, shaking, emptying it into a syringe running it up his anus like the last time. This experienced turned out to be very strong (and very stimulating/euphoric) for SWIM (he estimates he had 200 mg or more), and it was largely characterized by the same feelings as the last time. This time the comedown was quite harsh, but purely with regard to the desire to take more. This time, of course, SWIM had nothing more to take, and that left him a little sad during the comedown. Emotionally the few hours after reaching baseline were definitely worse, or less good, than how he felt prior to dosing, but after midday, coming into the afternoon, he returned to his joyful state of being.

On another occassion, SWIM took 105 mg rectally prior to the arrival of his new girlfriend (a one week long relationship at that time) at his house. The whole family was at home, and he had not and would not tell her anything about it, but he felt certain she (or anyone else) would notice nothing. Pretty right he was. Mephedrone hit him (quite softly this time) as they lay tighly together in the bed looking at each other. SWIM says they made love for 15 minutes (no sex though), and while he, of course, felt unbelievably amazing, SWIM believes he would've felt just as good without the "aid" of any drug. Despite having tried very far from everything, SWIM states that he bets love is truly the best and healthiest drug in this world; the simultanous addition of something so stimulating and euphoric (by his standards) as mephedrone, resulted, sort of, in a feeling of feeling too much and too good. He also felt very hot and was sweating more than usual. SWIM says it was a very good experience, but he would not repeat it---that is, he would in the future not include intense lovemaking in a mephedrone trip. It just didn't seem to fit. Sex even less so.

I have a very bad habit of writing too much. If someone is still with me, I thank you and I love you. This is the place where the love starts. Do you remember the start of this text, where I stated that SWIM was nearing baseline, feeling amazing far beyond words? Well, what follows is a sporadical account of what happened that evening (this evening), which is possibly the best and most positively altering evening of his life. You know the characters already: it's the good friend of SWIM, herefter called F., who is said to share SWIM's interest in sprituality, psychedelics, anarchism, activism, and so on. And it's the other guy, called N., who is a very good friend of F. (despite them also being quite different).

Like a tough guy, N. took his 200 mg straight up his nose (I still don't understand how some people can snort so much chemical in a couple of seconds without making noises of pain and disgust, or making horrible faces). SWIM and F. loaded each their syringe with 190 mg and 206 mg mephedrone respectively. The water was a tad cold, and we had some problems dissolving the lumps of chemical into the water, but we made it eventually. We shot it up our rectums, and off we went for a walk, destined for an appartment of F.'s father where we could be alone. N. was already feeling a lot at this point, appearing not entirely sober, but surely very full of love, openness, understanding and energy. An estimated ten minutes later (SWIM never checked the time) SWIM was also well on his way up, and after another ten minutes he was peaking and feeling incredible. By the way, N. had done this on one occassion earlier (with some friends), but F. had not. I was very sad to realize, then, that F. was not really feeling any strong effects at any time that evening. He reported a mild psychedelic atmosphere, a slightly good body feeling of lightness, mostly in his legs, and luckily, some empathogenic effects. For all I know, however, this empathogenic feeling may have been induced by N. who had ascended into a deep mouth diarrhea, sharing with SWIM and F. his previously most personal feelings. Just like I always do with N., I noticed occassionally a small lack of intellect and reflection, but this time, of course, the observations did not bother me at all. SWIM felt that he truly loved his friends unconditionally, and while perhaps not as strongly as N. appeared to do (he was holding hands, haha, so unlike him), SWIM defintely shared his state of mind, or, should I say, "state of feeling".

Going shopping for some snacks was a very interesting experience for SWIM. N. had a little harder time controlling himself, so after entering, he soon returned outside to wait with F. SWIM had some juice, chocolate and chewing gum, and while he found it all very tasty, mephedrone's food enhancing properties seemed pretty unremarkable or perhaps almost non-existent. But that did not matter.

It was when they arrived in the appartment that SWIM acquired a new respect for mephedrone. His previous experiences with mephedrone had created in him a respect for mephedrone based on fear for something dangerous and addictive. As they sat down in the sofa, holding each other tightly, N. took 40 mg up the nose and SWIM took 70 mg in the same manner. While SWIM had not said much that evening beyond stating how amazing he was feeling (swearing alot, which he rarely does), ten minutes after redosing he discovered the joy of talking, and doing so directly from the heart. While his relationship to F. is quite open, this was a conversation on a deeply emotional level free of any barriers whatsoever. Not normal. While the euphoria was already quite intense (too strong to be conveyed in smiles, so SWIM almost never did so), the openness and the bond between them---seemingly originating from the white powder---brought on an intense, genuine and deep satisfaction. However, once again SWIM met the fear of loosing this heavenly state of being into his past, and thus he rid himself of it by redosing 110 mg rectally (only him). Back in heaven. They continued in the same manner; speaking gently, heartedly and freely with each other, blessing mephedrone not only for the intense satisfaction it was giving them right now, but for how it was likely to positively affect, or even alter, their future relationship with each other and the rest of the living world. They talked about how such experienced should and must be used as a goal for sober personal improvement. If you want to feel as on mephedrone in your daily life, or MDMA which I haven't tried, your first priority should be strictly to turn to yourself, and work on your character till you, in your sober everyday life, will live and act much as if on MDMA or mephedrone. One of the most amazingly kind, generous and social people SWIM had never met, had told him that he used to be a completete bastard, incapable of being nice or honest to anyone. According to the story, this guy ended up trying MDMA, and the experience lead him to the realization that with some adjustments of character (but demanding a lot of hard work), he would love everyone and everyone would love him back. So rather than going back to his pills, he strived for that open, kind and fearless character which he inhabited while on MDMA. Some years later, it is this charater that he has become; the character that SWIM met and fell in love with. An amazing one.

SWIM took another 40 mg in the nose, and promised his friends that that would mark the end of the mephedrone intake that evening. He mentally prepared himself for the comedown and the soberness ahead, but as time passed and SWIM was gradually transported back to his normal and supposedly very boring state of being, his love for life grew uncontrollably by the second. Rather than looking back at what satisfaction had been that evening, he was looking forward to a new and intensely beautiful tomorrow. Now having had his relationship with F. and N. transformed in a wonderful way, thanks to mephedrone, tomorrow would mark the start of a social transformation process not rooted in chemicals but in his very own Soul, Heart and Self. There were so many people he desired to talk to, so many people he desired to help. SWIM promised himself to realize as many of these desires as he could manage.

Now it is very late, and SWIM his definitely baseline. However, he truly still means to do as promised.

SWIM is unbelievably happy and would like to thank everybody and wish them the best of luck with their own lives and relationships.

Take care.

Some important notes:
1. SWIM has not yet noticed no negative side-effects from his mephedrone use (apart from the desire to take more).
2. The desire to take more does not really disappear, but it is not very far from. I've kept quite a lot of mephedrone easily available in my room for quite a long time, but the desire to take more is normally, for me, quite easy to resist.
3. SWIM does not recommend taking mephedrone alone. It has given him nothing but a very shallow and bodily satisfaction, which does not really positively affect his sober everyday life.
4. This text was written in one, constant run, in the middle of the night. I loved it, because this experience was so profound I had to share it. But I am extremely tired now. I want to sleep. I will not read it through until tomorrow, but I will post it anyway.

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