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The origins of Santa Clause
I was listening to a bit by Terence Mckenna the other day and he postulated a very interesting version of santa clause that i haven't heard before. Aminatas Muscarias is native to Siberia, among other places, a region in which reindeer are abundant. Santa Clause is red and white, the obvious iconographical colors of the most popular and recognized aminitas species. Santa Clause is the master of the reindeer, an animal which, apparently, would butt one out of the way for a chowdown at the yellow snow when one is pissing. The active compound in aminitas is not broken down by the body, thus it is excreted in the urine and evidently, these animals are hooked on these mushrooms. Santa Clause's main workers are elves, a hallucination which is commonly associated with psychedelics (*note that aminitas it not a psychedelic, but is an easy mistake), especially mushrooms. Santa Clause brings gifts to children, the way it seems psychoactive plants bring gifts to their users. The trees associated with Christmas, spruce or pine, are specifically the trees that Aminitas populates beneath on the trees dead needles. Along with that note, the gifts are delivered underneath the Christmas tree. Santa flies. Santa seems to warp time. If you aren't yet convinced that santa comes from people tripping on aminitas, I'd sure like to hear your reason then.
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Re: The origins of Santa Clause
Interesting read...
Though I was always under the impression that the origin of Santa Claus, came from the abrieviated form of Saint Nicholas (keep saying it fast! lol). For those who don't know the story of Saint Nicholas, he would climb down the chimneys of the poor people and leave bags of gold. This is how the legend started. So Santa was actually a real person. |
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http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp
Santa Claus is perhaps the most remarkable of all the figures associated with Christmas. To us, Santa has always been an essential part of the Christmas celebration, but the modern image of Santa didn't develop until well into the 19th century. Moreover, he didn't spring to life fully-formed as a literary creation or a commercial invention (as did his famous reindeer, Rudolph). Santa Claus was an evolutionary creation, brought about by the fusion of two religious personages (St. Nicholas and Christkindlein, the Christ child) to become a fixed image which is now the paramount symbol of the secular Christmas celebration. In 1804, the New York Historical Society was founded with Nicholas as its patron saint, its members reviving the Dutch tradition of St. Nicholas as a gift-bringer. In 1809, Washington Irving published his satirical A History of New York, by one "Diedrich Knickerbocker," a work that poked fun at New York's Dutch past (St. Nicholas included). When Irving became a member of the Society the following year, the annual St. Nicholas Day dinner festivities included a woodcut of the traditional Nicholas figure (tall, with long robes) accompanied by a Dutch rhyme about "Sancte Claus" (in Dutch, "Sinterklaas"). Irving revised his History of New York in 1812, adding details about Nicholas' "riding over the tops of the trees, in that selfsame waggon wherein he brings his yearly presents to children." In 1821, a New York printer named William Gilley issued a poem about a "Santeclaus" who dressed all in fur and drove a sleigh pulled by one reindeer. Gilley's "Sante," however, was very short. On Christmas Eve of 1822, another New Yorker, Clement Clarke Moore, wrote down and read to his children a series of verses; his poem was published a year later as "An Account of a Visit from St. Nicholas" (more commonly known today by its opening line, "'Twas the night before Christmas . . ."). Moore gave St. Nick eight reindeer (and named them all), and he devised the now-familiar entrance by chimney. Moore's Nicholas was still a small figure, however — the poem describes a "miniature sleigh" with a "little old driver." Meanwhile, in parts of Europe such as Germany, Nicholas the gift-giver had been superseded by a representation of the infant Jesus (the Christ child, or "Christkindlein"). The Christkindlein accompanied Nicholas-like figures with other names (such as "Père Noël" in France), or he travelled with a dwarf-like helper (known in some places as "Pelznickel," or Nicholas with furs). Belsnickle (as Pelznickel was known in the German-American dialect of Pennsylvania) was represented by adults who dressed in furry disguises (including false whiskers), visited while children were still awake, and put on a scary performance. Gifts found by children the next morning were credited to Christkindlein, who had come while everyone was asleep. Over time, the non-visible Christkindlein (whose name mutated into "Kriss Kringle") was overshadowed by the visible Belsnickle, and both of them became confused with St. Nicholas and the emerging figure of Santa Claus. The modern Santa Claus derived from these two images: St. Nicholas the elf-like gift bringer described by Moore, and a friendlier "Kriss Kringle" amalgam of the Christkindlein and Pelznickel figures. The man-sized version of Santa became the dominant image around 1841, when a Philadelphia merchant named J.W. Parkinson hired a man to dress in "Criscringle" clothing and climb the chimney outside his shop. In 1863, a caricaturist for Harper's Weekly named Thomas Nast began developing his own image of Santa. Nast gave his figure a "flowing set of whiskers" and dressed him "all in fur, from his head to his foot." Nast's 1866 montage entitled "Santa Claus and His Works" established Santa as a maker of toys; an 1869 book of the same name collected new Nast drawings with a poem by George P. Webster that identified the North Pole as Santa's home. Although Nast never settled on one size for his Santa figures (they ranged from elf-like to man-sized), his 1881 "Merry Old Santa Claus" drawing is quite close to the modern-day image. The Santa Claus figure, although not yet standardized, was ubiquitous by the late 19th century. Santa was portrayed as both large and small; he was usually round but sometimes of normal or slight build; and he dressed in furs (like Belsnickle) or cloth suits of red, blue, green, or purple. A Boston printer named Louis Prang introduced the English custom of Christmas cards to America, and in 1885 he issued a card featuring a red-suited Santa. The chubby Santa with a red suit (like an "overweight superhero") began to replace the fur-dressed Belsnickle image and the multicolored Santas. |
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Re: The origins of Santa Clause
Here's an article that sums up the amanita/santa claus theories:
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Re: The origins of Santa Clause
I tend to agree.
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Re: The origins of Santa Clause
I heard a theory that he was an illuminati creation, change the letters and you get satan, he can slow down time he comes into your house in the middle of the night he has little helpers elves/demons? lol Myebe there trying to push him as a good guy. Then theres his red suit which was from the coca cola company, sure it was David Ickes books but cant be certain sorry for no sources just an idea id read a while back, not that I didnt love him when I was a child, actually seen him one night !
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Santa = Saint Shaman = Holy person say santa but use a short a both times. to me it sounds a bit like shaman. and it makes me wonder about other languages and what came before latin. Lots of old stories feature guys making that north star flight. i think those stories must be symbology for us circling that north star. like for the solstice/seasons and to keep track of when planting time comes>same as the stone monoliths like Stonehenge. you know the Solstice is on the 21st usually but never any later than the 25th of december. Wotan had that circling flight pattern and so did Osiris (god of the sun worshipping egyptians). Osiris celebrated his birthday on December 25th and his followers all exchanged gifts by placing them under cedar trees. and Osiris flew in golden armor (like the sun) as he circled. Thor, aka Donner, flew in a golden chariot and was pulled by Cracker and Knasher (his two goats). When Odin spun with the earth, he had an eight legged steed. it makes sense (to me) that seasonal lore like this would be the type of bread and butter stuff that got told by the Shaman on his holy solstice day as he talked about how important that day was as a seasonal marker. and a thought about the amanita>the winter day is the ONLY Solstice or Equinox that a Shaman can actually party on since all the others are at very busy times of the planting season. so this is a time when a Shaman actually COULD take some shrooms and relax... and if he did go visiting in the olde snow country, then he would have to use the secondary entrance g9.gif g10.jpg and this may be a bit of a reach, but a Shaman would be in charge of medicinal plants and there are some people who see a link between these two symbols: g12.jpg g13.jpg each resembling the other as a symbol of the drugs to be found beneath it. Interesting thing about modern amanita culture> the kids are rediscovering the old way. they aren't actually growing the mushrooms to full size, they are culturing the mycorrhizal fleece on grape juice. When it rises to a good size, then the "Living Bread" is washed clean of it's psychoactive innards, the liquid collected in a cup and drank. Before drinking, the liquid can be further purified AND made more psychoactive by subjecting it to fire. Quote:
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