was spelling this differently and so her searches didn't turn up anything and she started a new thread a few weeks back.. perhaps these can be combined by a mod if they see fit? There are still not many threads on this substance, which is d-amphetamine
combined with l-lysine as a "prodrug," but many of the older ones seem to have lots of questions and speculation and very little factual advice. Swim is no expert, but looked up a bit of info for her post, as well as posting an experience report. So she will link this post here for people to read. Perhaps the poster meant to type 3x and not 30?? Please, no one take 30 of these. They come in 30, 50, and 70mg, and are meant to be taken usually once a day mainly for children with ADHD although off-label prescribing does occur with adults. Swim's first experience with this substance was 2x 30mg= 60mg, and another 30mg (total 90mg throughout the day/evening) and she felt it quite strongly. She takes modafinil
daily, and methylphenidate
5-10mg occasionally (usually one or two days per week, depending) for managing excessive sleepiness associated with a fairly well known sleep disorder. So.. if someone has a high amphetamine tolerance, they may need more. But either way, someone pointed out the bioavailability of this is quite high orally, so please start low, one or two of the lower doses 30-50 mg, or maybe one of the higher 70mg and guage swiy's response.. again, swim uses amphetamines in low doses as prescribed, and occasionally substitutes her meager prescription with other amps when she is out and still needs to stay awake to drive or go to class.. so yes she has a tolerance but not a huge one as she always uses therapeutic doses and mainly orally rather than snorting
or injecting. So, point being, 90mg was quite strong, she'd say comparable to taking 30-60mg Adderall
capsules orally. She is quite interested to find out exactly how dosing works with this thing. I mean, the pill increments can be telling- 30, 50, and 70mg are likely typical doses.. and one study stated that these doses of lizdexamfetamine were equally effective at managing adhd symptoms as similar doses of Adderall in a study of children.. but another seemed to imply that a higher dose of this drug
equaled a lower dose of other drugs
in its class.. swim's no expert on amphetamine dosing or potency, but would be interested to know how this all balances out- whether the "30" "50" or "70" mg means mg of d-amphetamine, as in most other amp meds, or whether the l-lysine is inlcuded, and if so what the ratio is? And if bioavailability differs, what quantitative/numerical influence does this have on dosing conversion and equivalence? Anywho, will post link to swim's experience report and copy/pasted article describing the basics of this substance- mods feel free to combine if you feel it appropriate- sorry for overlooking this.