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Old 20-11-2007, 00:19
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GBL & Water Theory

SWIM just had an idea he thought he'd like to share with everyone

he heard a while ago that water isnt as hydrating as some drinks because its so basic that it goes straight through your system and out the other end (which would makes sence)
well if this is the case, hypothetically, would mixing gbl with water get it into your system faster than other drinks? SWIM thought it might administer the dose faster than other drinks and be a more intense but shorter lasting high?

SWIM likes this forum and hopes he has the right idea, that it is used for sharing ideas and descussing things like this?


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Old 20-11-2007, 10:14
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

GBL would not bind with the water, it would simply be floating in it so there is no reason to believe that this would have any effect on the hydration capabilities of the water.

How else would GBL be taken if it isn't taken in a drink anyway? It would burn like fuck if taken neat.
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Old 20-11-2007, 14:18
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

oh i see, no SWIM just thought that the water would be ingested quicker than other drinks thus getting the gbl in there quicker but SWIM has absolutely no medical knowledge and was just guessing
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Old 20-11-2007, 21:49
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

Both gbl and ghb have very fast onset, taken with empty stomach usually kicks in in about 10 minutes

SWIM puts gbl in gel caps 1ml per cap. SWIM can't stand the taste of it even when it's heavily diluted. The onset with gel caps isn't longer but be careful, gbl can melt certain types of caps and gbl could be released and burn your throat and esophag. SWIM fills them up and lets the settle a few minutes to check the caps consistency.
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Old 21-11-2007, 21:53
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

gbl melted my ex partners mobile phone!
swim worrys about swims stomache and liver! its a very strong solvent. swim knows about converting it! but this aint gonna happen for 2 weeks until swim gets paid!
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Old 21-11-2007, 22:13
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

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gbl melted my ex partners mobile phone!
is that why they're now your EX partner?



is it thought that ghb after conversion from gbl is pretty much harmless then? for a drug atleast
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Old 21-11-2007, 22:23
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

yeh from what they say! They say GBL is too! but somthing that can melt plastic can't be that good for you in swims eyes!
don;t get me wrong swim has had GBL every day for last week! He is having a beer n benzo night tonight though for a break!
And nah it wasnt over gbl and a phone! swim was smashed out his head and forgot to pick them up from a bus station! 2 hours of phoning swims phone and they was back on the bus and it was all over
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Old 21-11-2007, 23:02
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

im sure it cant be good in anyone's eyes ouch!
sorry to hear about you and your lady, i just fell out with mine for possibly/probably the last time today

i heard that when SWIM got back from the eye doctor he had about 1.5ml and it made him feel quite ill and almost sick (though still felt happier) he wonders if he should avoid it or if it is possible to lower the dose and enjoy it (he had 1ml at the weekend which was good but not as much as he'd hope, would it be worth him trying 1.2 etc?)


i hope you and your girl sort it out and get back together
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Old 22-11-2007, 14:07
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

Ghb is much less nauseating than gbl, maybe swiy should try converting it. Mr G posted a really good TEK on how to do it, step by step and simple enough!
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Old 22-11-2007, 23:27
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

swim used to get hammerd from 1.5ml but now its taking him 1.4ml then 1ml 20 mins later
swim guesses you get used to the effects quite quick
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Old 23-11-2007, 14:04
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

oooh bumpbump you genius, never thought, (how stupid of me!) would spacing out smaller doses increase euphoria without increasing nausia and the general dirty feeling?

SWIM said its his first time with a liquid and knows little about the differences/similarities of gbl compared to pills/capsules etc (says he found spacing out bzp pills reduced nausia etc)

SWIM said he had 1ml the first time and felt good but it might have been the other stuff he had had or his company that cheered him up, second time he had 1.5ml and felt great (happy like everything was good) but also felt very sick and had to lie down and really make an effort not to be sick. third time he had about 1.1-1.2ml and felt intoxicated but not any happier (swim has been seriously depressed all his life)

any thoughts? or should swim give up and wait till he can make ghb (Would ghb be all the happy with none of the dirty?)


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Old 28-11-2007, 14:49
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

spacing doses does help...
if ur normal dose is 2.5ml for example take bout 2.1 then 20min later
take .5ml (yes .1 more)
this seems to lower nausea and dizziness but increase euphoria
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Old 29-11-2007, 18:07
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Re: GBL & Water Theory

its a hard game to figure out as sometimes swim gets euphoria and other times just drowsiness.
swim defo needs alot more than when he first started, but would defo recomend spacing the doses as you dont know how each one is gonna hit you. do every 20-30 mins and increase 0.5-1ml in swims experience. Quicker down the better!
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