What would happen if SWIM was to dissolve 100mg of freebase DMT in warm butter and squirt it up his rectum? Would this work or would SWIM need to convert the DMT into salt form first and dissolve it in water instead? He assumes to conver it, he would simply need to dissolve it into solvent, wash the solvent with ph 4 water, then either use this water for squirting or evaporate the water.
I've heard of DMT enemas before. I'm not sure wether it would work because DMT requires to be taken in the sufficient/effective dose before tolerance builds up within about 1 minute; Hence the rapid successions of deep inhalations when DMT is smoked.
I don't know how fast a DMT-butter mixture would be taken up into the blood stream via the rectum, but I've heard of it before so what about a little trial and error to get your answer?
This girl from neurosoup talks about her experience taking DMT anally, with good indications of dosage and effects. If you can't be arsed watching that though, she had a strong experience with 200mg, lasting about 1 and a half hours.
smoke it... stop putting anything that will get swiy high up ones ass! Smoked DMT is an amazing experience requiring less than half of that dose and it saves you the trouble of telling your friends how you wasted a precious chemical but putting it in your ass.
Converting DMT freebase to salt and then squirting it up your anus is easier said than done. DMT salt is a sticky toffee like substance - not a powder like freebase. If you can squirt toffee up your bunghole then you are a better man than I Gunga Din
smoke it... stop putting anything that will get swiy high up ones ass! Smoked DMT is an amazing experience requiring less than half of that dose and it saves you the trouble of telling your friends how you wasted a precious chemical but putting it in your ass.
Not trying to reprimand because swiy wasn't rude or anything, but swim used to have the same reaction to the idea of rectal use. She questioned her SO about why so many people were interested in it, when it sounded so unpleasant, etc. He then mentioned that many people have a very inconstant stream of substances, something that's really obvious but never occured to swim. She doesn't need to worry about wasting a dose because she can buy more, but a lot of people do not have the money or resources to re experiment with substances, and in this case, it is understandable why one would wish to make a small quantity as effective as possible.
This may be less the case here than in other circumstances, since rectal dosing, as swiy has stated, requires a larger quantity of dmt. However, if the above posts are correct, and swiy really would have a longer experience, swim can see why an experienced psychonaut would wish to do such a thing.
smoke it... stop putting anything that will get swiy high up ones ass! Smoked DMT is an amazing experience requiring less than half of that dose and it saves you the trouble of telling your friends how you wasted a precious chemical but putting it in your ass.
swim also does not mean to flame but........
Smoked dmt is an amazing experiences but you probably don't know what you are missing with a nice anal dose. Who says you have to tell your friends anyways? The same thing is said about plugging MDMA when the subject comes up. Someone always has to make an immature response about sticking something up your ass when half the time its better for you than other methods of administration.
This forum has a large number of recreational drug users who stick needles in their arms, pipes in their mouths, fingers,syringes in their buts, pills down their throat. Each and every method has its shortcomings but smoking usually has its fair share of effects on the body that other methods don't........maybe thats a good reason to smoke it.......longer duration, the shamans were not idiots when they drank ayahuasca and i dont think they were smoking the stuff thousands of years ago.
It was not swims intention to come being crass
it is just something swim doesn't understand.
i see all of your points but the simple matter is swim's poop-shoot is an exit only...
ayahuasca was an amazing experience and so was vaporizing it. maybe swim will cross that rectal threshold someday but until then swim will never understand it.
i see all of your points but the simple matter is swim's poop-shoot is an exit only...
ayahuasca was an amazing experience and so was vaporizing it. maybe swim will cross that rectal threshold someday but until then swim will never understand it.
What's to understand? The lining rectum is a semi-permial membrane with lots of capillaries. This makes it capable of absorbing many substances just like the nose (yopo snuffs) and the lungs (when inhaled) are capable of.
Many prescription drugs come in suppository or enema form including some OTC medications like Tylenol, and they work well for people who have trouble swallowing pills or who would likely vomit their medication after swallowing. Taking a drug or medication rectally does not make you gay, a sod or a but pirate, so you can relax your sphincter already!
You can't look at this like it's some sort of deviant sex practice or some unnatural act. I mean, your already talking about doing drugs for goodness sakes! Why should how you take them make any difference?
You need to take a clinical perspective on this and just accept that just like how different people tolerate different drugs differently, different people also tolerate different methods of dilvery differently. I, for example, would never administer myself an injection (legal or not). I just hate needles, and thank God I'm not diabetic!
One final note, be sure you understand that nobody is telling you that you should take a drug as an enema. This is simply a discussion about how a particular method may be the best method for some people. If it isn't for you, that's between you and your [witch?]doctor. Just be aware that your ubjection sounds far more psychological then due to poor tolerance of rectal dosing.
i see all of your points but the simple matter is swim's poop-shoot is an exit only...
Administering drugs is all about getting the substance into the circulatory system. Whether this is done directly (IV) or indirectly (nasal membranes, lungs, digestive system, and yes, up the butt) is irrelevant. Seems like some kind of homophobia to not want to put anything up your rectum. Hope you don't ever need a colonoscopy.
Putting things in your ass doesn't make you gay, putting penises in your ass does.
You can't look at this like it's some sort of deviant sex practice or some unnatural act. I mean, your already talking about doing drugs for goodness sakes! Why should how you take them make any difference?
And if one does, he or she should derive some extra pleasure from it. Swim doesn't see the problem in that. Or wait... maybe not with DMT. The feeling of sin or deviance can become a bit overwhelming, that is maybe a bad thing. Maybe.
why on earth would you do something like this? swim likes sticking precious, sacred powders up his ass??
If swim wants a longer trip, he can snort the DMT (resulting in a 45 minutes trip), or he could just take it orally, with some MAOIs, thus making ayahuasca.
So for enhancing the duration of the trip, there are other means more convenient. So what is swim's *real* reason of putting DMT up his ass?
SWIY might want to look a couple posts up where SWIM comments on homophobia. Why is SWIY so afraid to put something there? Is it because when it comes down to it, SWIY can only think of penises when it comes to putting things in your rectum?
So what is swim's *real* reason of putting DMT up his ass?
What do you want the real reason to be?
No, swim is flaming now. It can enhance the bioavailability of a drugs. And if someone has additional reasons, who cares? The members of this forum are probably people, who like to think for them self, so it is likely they have their own moral and ethical rules. It is possible not everybody has problems with putting things up their asses. And maybe worse from swiy's perspective; not everybody sees it in a sexual light.
Of course those things can be fun to make a couple of jokes about, because it is a taboo, but after two or three jokes it gets a bit boring.
People shoving drugs up there ass, so they spare out some money or saving their nose from a certain doom. So what? Worse things are happening in the world.
The question starter is asking for interesting objective information, where swiy's opinion is less interesting, because everybody knows societies opinions about all actions in which your ass is involved. We also know how society thinks about recreational drugs use.
Edit: The point is, nobody really cares about *REAL* reasons. We only care about dosages, duration and intensity. And maybe possible problems, experiences or methods.
i could've sweared that i posted a reply here earlier :|
Yeah thats strange because earlier on today, on the DMT thread list, you were listed as the most recent reply to this thread, but when I opened it there was no new post... Wierd.
c'mon guys
