Excessive ecstasy use

[johno.]

Swim's friend is a real junkie. He did pills maybe 4 days of the week for about a year and a half, no breaks. One night, he took 2 pills but they didn't hit him at all. Swim asked him why; he said he had a block (the drug didn't really affect him anymore).

This particular pill is one that Swim and most of his friends had been taking for some time, and it was known to have very strong effects.

Anyway, later on that night, Swim's friend dumped 6 at once. That's SIX in his mouth at the one time. Swim and his other friends were all stressing, scared of what might happen to him. After about an hour, there was no effect, and he said "This is shit".

He ended up having 18 pills in total over about 8 hours. Swim could not understand why he would even bother doing it at all, and suggested he stop for a while.

Swim was just wondering if anyone else had heard of anything like this before, because it's just plain ridiculous IMO. It's definitely not the type of pill, 100% sure.

[Lettish]

My friend thinks that the body has built up a tolerance due to the excessive use. Quite simply, Swiy should stay off them for half a year.

[doonie]

hydroxy is always full of useful advice, listen to the man. i have also heard of people who have felt the same. someone was once talking to someone else about pills and the most they had done in one night:

"erm, i think it's about 6 to 10, but i never really remember, how about you?"
"you're not even gonna believe me, but... new year's eve i did 35. another time i took 50 over the space of 3 days at a festival"

this person is now staying off pills for a long long time as this is not a cheap habit! you're completely right, it's plain ridiculous. it's good that you are concerned for swim's friend.

[naturally5odonme]

swim has done ecstasy for 4 years straight
swim is sure he has done over 2000 pills
swim used to take 15-25 daily.
swim got very bad anxiety and no longer felt effects
swiy should do an acetone wash to get Straight MDMA
it is cheap and very effective.
swiy should stop for a couple months

[Paracelsus]

Originally Posted by naturally5odonme

swiy should stop for a couple months

I second that. Excessive MDMA use can irreversibly damage serotonin neurons.

[doonie]

see if you can get your friend to take this test...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/addiction-calculator.htm

swim took it a couple days ago and it was actually a big kick in the teeth and quite a wake up call. his initial reaction was "i'm not borderline mentally dependent" but the more he thought about it the more this deemed true.

bad times.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by johno.

Swim's friend is a real junkie. He did pills maybe 4 days of the week for about a year and a half, no breaks. One night, he took 2 pills but they didn't hit him at all. Swim asked him why; he said he had a block (the drug didn't really affect him anymore).

This particular pill is one that Swim and most of his friends had been taking for some time, and it was known to have very strong effects.

Anyway, later on that night, Swim's friend dumped 6 at once. That's SIX in his mouth at the one time. Swim and his other friends were all stressing, scared of what might happen to him. After about an hour, there was no effect, and he said "This is shit".

He ended up having 18 pills in total over about 8 hours. Swim could not understand why he would even bother doing it at all, and suggested he stop for a while.

Swim was just wondering if anyone else had heard of anything like this before, because it's just plain ridiculous IMO. It's definitely not the type of pill, 100% sure.

It's surprising that the pills were doing anything at all, even after a few weeks, as tolerance to MDMA builds so quickly. Your friend is certainly running a lot of risks and because MDMA may be neurotoxic. As everyone else says, he should take break.

[Stiney]

Also remember that the main effects felt from taking mdma are produced by the flooding of serotonin into your system, it takes a while for the serotonin to build back up.

Try to think of it like this. Say you have a keg of water (you serotonin supply tank) with an open top, and a tap at the bottom (the mdma your going to take), and a tap at the top thats just dripping water slowly into the keg (your serotonin producing system). Now when you open the tap at the bottom (take ecstacy) the water comes pouring quicky out, but the tap at the top is dripping water in much more slowly (your brain converting htp-5 to serotonin), so if you keep opening the tap everyday the keg won't get a chance to fill back up, so you are only going to get a much smaller supply of water (much weaker effect) out each time. Where as if you wait a week or two (or peferably longer) before opening the tap again the keg will have filled right to the top again.

Also pay very close attention to what paracelsus says, if you continue to use mdma too frequently you will not only illiminate your ability to feel the full strong effects of mdma ever again (or at least for a very very long time) but you will mess up you brains natural use of serotonin which is used in the regulation of mood, sleep, appetite and sexual drive amongst other things. Unless you like the idea of being an aggresive, depressed, sexually disfunctional person with an eating disorder in the future.

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