Purity - Possible drug laced into marijuana

[mickeyfynn]

just the other day my friend had smoked a blunt with someone. i was supposed to meet them up and when i called them they were saying they were freaking and didnt know why and all kinds of crazyness. luckily i was only a mile away and met them at a gas station and they got out of their car cry and shaking and twitching saying that they didnt know what was wrong and that they werent sure if they should be happy or sad. they were crying but little laughs would come in and out too. after i sat them down and started talking to them etc they said they started seeing things, like things that werent there and the twitching was really bad, they said it was uncontrollable and it was their whole body...arms and legs were constantly moving and would just jump out of nowhere, after almost all the twitching was gone and they stopped crying and started calming down they still said they were seeing things like playing with an imaginary ball of energy and that my car was a dragon and we were inside the mouth of it and the road was the fire we were breathing... i have absolutly no idea why they were like this, supposidly the other person that smoked the blunt didnt experience anything like this and i cant figure out of it was laced, what kind of drug it could of been. besides these visuals they were experiencing, the twitching is what i coudlnt understand...so if anyone knows of anything that sounds like it could of caused a trip like this, please let me know, Thank You...

[jerbles]

they were both experiencing the exact same visuals? I don't think it's possible for two people to see the exact same shit while on anything.

But it sounds like it could've been laced with PCP or embalming fluid (aka "wet"). and yes, people really do soak weed in embalming fluid, as it gives effects similar to PCP.

[lexifer]

Originally Posted by jerbles

and yes, people really do soak weed in embalming fluid, as it gives effects similar to PCP.

this statement is absolutely false. embalming fluid is just a slang term for pcp. smoking embalming fluid won't produce any pcp-like effects and swim's no doctor but he thinks consuming embalming fluid in any way cannot be good for one's health.

[mickeyfynn]

no im only talking about one person, when i say they its only one person, i just didnt specify male or female, i did mention another person, two of them smoked the same blunt but only one experienced what i explained...and according to erowid when pcp is referred to as embalming fluid, its really not embalming fluid, the fluid does not produce an effect like pcp, trust me ive tried it...and also two can experience the same visuals if they are tripping together, especially on acid, you can even start tripping yourself if you havent taken anything and are around someone on acid, ive experienced both of those myself too

[crackcityrocker]

how often does this person smoke weed? swim doubts it was laced with anything, especially since the other person didnt experience what you described. maybe he smoked too much? to swim it just sounds like a bad panic attack that was made worse with weed.

[I<3Salvia]

Dude that's no panic attack, that shit's laced. Swim is a pretty constant pot smoker, and once had some pot he is almost sure was laced. It was a fucked up high, couldn't focus his eyes close up, got motion sick and instead of getting hungry got kind of weird pains in his stomach. He just had to sit down, close his eyes, not move and wait it out. If you're friend knows his dealer pretty well, have him ask about it, maybe he accidentally mixed a bag or something. Hope your friend's doing alright.

[crackcityrocker]

Originally Posted by I<3Salvia

Dude that's no panic attack, that shit's laced. Swim is a pretty constant pot smoker, and once had some pot he is almost sure was laced. It was a fucked up high, couldn't focus his eyes close up, got motion sick and instead of getting hungry got kind of weird pains in his stomach. He just had to sit down, close his eyes, not move and wait it out. If you're friend knows his dealer pretty well, have him ask about it, maybe he accidentally mixed a bag or something. Hope your friend's doing alright.

what exactly would someone lace weed with that would do what you just described? no recreational drug swim's ever heard of. his guess is swiy smoked too much bunk weed. swim hates to sound holier than thou but most dealers arent going to lace their shit with anything, especially PCP, because it doesnt make sense for them to do that and sell at the same price. hes sure its happened before but swim always takes a story like this with a grain of salt. swim guesses swiy could have a bad reaction to something sprayed onto the weed; windex, raid, etc. people do weird things. but to automatically assume some kind of harder drug got into your pot is naive. there are too many other explanations.

[I<3Salvia]

Swim had heard from other people after the fact that this guy is kinda known for selling laced shit. That is the main reason why swim is pretty sure that it was laced. Swim doesn't have experience with a lot of drugs, can't be for sure because the experience was unlike anything swim had ever had. Swim's smoked a lot of pot, and a lot of different types of plants, with nothing like the effect that was given to him that day. Swim can't be for sure, he's just speculating to the best of his ability. But for all swim knows if windex fucks up your high then it could be windex since he doesn't spray it on his grass regularly.

[ejbot]

haha that just happens when your body is in a weakened state of some sort, and usually happens to inexperienced smokers or when you switch strains of weed.

it really can be a hallucinogen at times guys, don't forget marijuana is a psychedelic, and there are many variables within a person that determines how your body will be effected, especially people with weaker minds or anxieties.

[Feelingood]

To Salvia, around here we call that "green sick". SWIm has gotten it before. They call it green sick, because your skin turns a little green(they took a pic). Dunno what causes it, SWIMs eyes couldnt focus, was throwing up, and felt extremely tired. felt fine after 4-6 hours afterward.

[grg3135]

Originally Posted by Feelingood

To Salvia, around here we call that "green sick". SWIm has gotten it before. They call it green sick, because your skin turns a little green(they took a pic). Dunno what causes it, SWIMs eyes couldnt focus, was throwing up, and felt extremely tired. felt fine after 4-6 hours afterward.

wow, I have never heard of anyone else experiencing that before. Back when SWIM first started smoking, this EXACT same thing would happen to him like 1 out of every 3 times he would smoke. The room would spin, he had motion sickness, his stomach would hurt, he would get really pale with a greenish tint, the works. He could never figure out what caused it, but in retrospect, it was more than likely that he just smoked way more than he could handle at the time. He hasnt experienced this since highschool.

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by grg3135

wow, I have never heard of anyone else experiencing that before. Back when SWIM first started smoking, this EXACT same thing would happen to him like 1 out of every 3 times he would smoke. The room would spin, he had motion sickness, his stomach would hurt, he would get really pale with a greenish tint, the works. He could never figure out what caused it, but in retrospect, it was more than likely that he just smoked way more than he could handle at the time. He hasnt experienced this since highschool.

It's not all that common, but it's not unheard of either. A slang term I've seen in several places for this sort of episode is a "whitey." Common wisdom is that this effect is due to sudden changes in blood pressure.

[chemlove]

Sounds like PCP but typically people know when these things happen from what i hear the taste is completely different when its laced but i don't know for sure i hope everyone is OK, and hopefully nothing like that ever happens to your friends again .

[Daytona71]

SWIM is not a regular smoker but came across some blond hash. Did one big toke and coughed for 15 minutes at least as it was nasty. Was told by friend that an experienced smoker had the same experience and got rid of the leftover. SWWIM flushed what he had. Potent high but SWIM actually was walking into walls and lost coordination and that has never happened with smoke before(30 years). What would a person use to make hash from weed chemically? Kerosene? Serious here and not kidding, very bad effect that had SWIM thinking of 911. Something was added or used to make this that was NOT good?!

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Daytona71

SWIM is not a regular smoker but came across some blond hash. Did one big toke and coughed for 15 minutes at least as it was nasty. Was told by friend that an experienced smoker had the same experience and got rid of the leftover. SWWIM flushed what he had. Potent high but SWIM actually was walking into walls and lost coordination and that has never happened with smoke before(30 years). What would a person use to make hash from weed chemically? Kerosene? Serious here and not kidding, very bad effect that had SWIM thinking of 911. Something was added or used to make this that was NOT good?!

This doesnt sound like a case of lacing, or contamination during the extraction/production process, but rather a product of mold-based contamination. Hash, especially blonde and press hash, is a hotbed for mold colonization. Much of it is made from wet keif being pressed into dense balls and placed in a warm baggy, never fully drying. Swim's medicinal marijuana dispensary has a quick ultraviolet test for mold contaminants, and he says that more than 75% of the hash he is offered to use for distribution is contaminated in one way or another. Many of these molds can cause intense lung irritation, as well as light-headedness, nausea, and pale complexion. Contamination is most likely the cause of many cases of 'laced
marijuana. As has been stated before, it is simply not cost-efficient to lace marijuana with anything other than flavor-additives or sugar or something for aesthetic value. Putting PCP, LSD, Crack or anything else on or in marijuana would simply be non-economically viable. By weight, almost every psychoactive substance costs more on average per gram than marijuana.

[Daytona71]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

This doesnt sound like a case of lacing, or contamination during the extraction/production process, but rather a product of mold-based contamination. Hash, especially blonde and press hash, is a hotbed for mold colonization. Much of it is made from wet keif being pressed into dense balls and placed in a warm baggy, never fully drying. Swim's medicinal marijuana dispensary has a quick ultraviolet test for mold contaminants, and he says that more than 75% of the hash he is offered to use for distribution is contaminated in one way or another. Many of these molds can cause intense lung irritation, as well as light-headedness, nausea, and pale complexion. Contamination is most likely the cause of many cases of 'laced
marijuana. As has been stated before, it is simply not cost-efficient to lace marijuana with anything other than flavor-additives or sugar or something for aesthetic value. Putting PCP, LSD, Crack or anything else on or in marijuana would simply be non-economically viable. By weight, almost every psychoactive substance costs more on average per gram than marijuana.

It was soft. I was thinkng laced with something like kerosene myself! LOL It would take a lot of Keif for any decent amount of hash would it not?

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Daytona71

LOL It would take a lot of Keif for any decent amount of hash would it not?

It would, and it does. The vast majority of keif is 'press', not filtered through a chemical process like butane oils but rather sifted through a keif screen and pressed in to a dense block.

[Metomni]

Yeah, at SWIM's house when all the pets get ounces of KB and they'll put it through the grinder. They also will do it if they have a half-pound or more of schwag. My penguin actually tried making a hash-like product to try out where he took a massive (maybe a gram?) amount of keif and combined it with a good amount of "hash oil" and trace amounts of very good bud. The result was pretty brilliant, but not something really sold on the streets.

"Putting PCP, LSD, Crack or anything else on or in marijuana would simply be non-economically viable. By weight, almost every psychoactive substance costs more on average per gram than marijuana."

SWIM would guess that the logic of someone who would lace weed is something closer to, "Well, I'm already selling weed, and I have this other really cheap drug close at hand. Maybe, just maybe, if I lace it people will love it and I can sell midgrades at KB prices!" SWIM assumes that a very small amount of something like PCP, even dispersed among an entire eighth of weed, would give quite a bit more than threshold effects.

[neko86]

whiting out!! =D
swims brother used to do that.. cept.. hed have a smoke.. smoke for a bit.. get paler to the stage of where he was almost white and then pass out/have a nap :lol:
his friends even gave him the nickname Albie [short for albino] because it happened so much!
sorry i cant help much with the original post, just wanted to share =^-^=

[grg3135]

Originally Posted by neko86

whiting out!! =D
swims brother used to do that.. cept.. hed have a smoke.. smoke for a bit.. get paler to the stage of where he was almost white and then pass out/have a nap :lol:
his friends even gave him the nickname Albie [short for albino] because it happened so much!
sorry i cant help much with the original post, just wanted to share =^-^=

haha yeah, swim says it was never so bad that he couldnt sleep it off. It actually wasnt all that bad if he was sitting still. The only other problem was that he would have so many simultaneous sensations that it was hard to maintain a conversation or a serious train of thought. SWIMs friends sure did give him shit for it, though

[Orchid_Suspiria]

People do indeed lace weed with embalming fluid.Swim lived with a guy that had two jars of it,the unscented and the menthol and he would lace his weed with it,let it dry in the sun for an hour,then put it in the toaster oven.The stuff smelled horrible,swim took a puff once and said never again.Taste so chemical and unhealthy.Even weed laced with pcp would probably be better than this stuff.It did nothing but make swim feel the need to vomit.