Base Amphetamine

[DonReek]

Hi,
SWIM lives in the uk where the only amphetamine avalable is amphetamine sulphate.
SWIM recently picked up some Amphetamine and found it to be much stronger than his usual speed, however this speed was wet and squidgy and went by the nickname "Base".
What exactly is "Base"?

[Codehead]

I think its meth.

[Codehead]

SWIM thinks*

[dutch-marshal]

is meth "wet and squidgy"?

the normal speed SWIm gets is allways like this...because it's fresh..

[jazzmetalguitar]

what does SWIY mean by "wet and squidgy" exactly?

[cook_justakid]

swim thinks swiy got what's very commonly available in london, it's just paste/base amphetamine and will dry out if left.
it's known to be stronger, although theres a way to produce it without making a sulphate form that is being used stronger, there is a fake in other words.
swim would say theres quite a bit of crap to the wet base, does it smell more chemically too?

[needmore]

SWIM used to use a lot of base either the orange or the white, Consistency varied from really liquidy to quite dry. Try and get the dry stuff as the liquid is usually just water added to rip you off. They have also started to cut with sugar mixed with water and spray with nasal spray usually phenelphrine to mask the odour. SWIM now sticks to ice as its harder (but not impossible ) to get ripped off and the base has really been shit lately

[cook_justakid]

swim was finding the base in london quite terrible until one batch came in the other week... swim finds that the dealer likes to take the piss, but to treat customers who spend £100+ at their own risk.... but even before cuts the base could be better/has been better in the past
swim thinks that the whole base being powerful thing might as well not be believed
dealers are just cutting it to f**k and chargin more than for sulphate tellin swiy its strong

[BumpBump]

swim thimks that we get sold this putty paste, as its got watter added to add weight. Hence swim ends up with less product for the money! if swim dries it it will just come a powder and easy to handle!
The whole putty/base thing came about when stuff was fresh from the lab and not having time to dry properly, but now dealers just jump on this to rip you off.

swim has had pure sulph and it was not a putty but dry, slightly yellow. and one tiny little rock would give a nice buz!

[powercinema]

Swim has been getting 'base' for the last few months in the south, very strong chemical smell, straight from the freezer and awesomely strong, swim used a small amount, approx 0.5g and was wide awake and smiling for 2 days, compared to dry 'speed' last summer which swim consumed 4g in 2 days and had to keep topping up constantly. Needless to say after both occasions swim informed me that a good dose of vitamins, cereal, fruit and sleep was required.

[cook_justakid]

swim knows we all get ripped off badly by those selling, the freezer thing is a technique, swim had it explained to me. It's a shame that all of us are not ever informed enough on the quality of the product, or the cuts. And how it dries up and weighs, can be oh so DIFFERENT to how is did when it came straight, chemical-stinky out of swiys dealers freezer- trust me.

dealers use many methods to mug swiy off

the confusion surrounding base and sulphate and fake base etc etc is VERY well known and nothing new

Do you really think swim or swiys dealer or dealers dealer wouldn't of found ways to manipulate all the confusion and naivete to swiys own advantage?

it will never change (the way swim and swiy are ripped off) - it will only evolve, as do problems

[dccuk]

where swim is from speed base and 'base' are both completely different.
swim has done pills which were this 'base' and its considered to be cheapo dirty ecstasy, which is also what it feels like.
swim thinks it could be something like MDE or GHB or something

[gigolo]

where swigigolo roams he is said to be of the belief that that meth and amp is very soluble in h20. How exactly could water b used to increase weight? And wats the deal with the freezer thing?

[Beanfondler]

If its amphetamine freebase, the freebase of MA is an oil and would similarly be more potent because of a lesser molecular weight due to the lack of hcl or sulphate component. Swiy wouldn't be swallowing or railing this and the vapors tend to be pretty harsh.

[KL_Thomie]

It's not freebase,it's not meth.Base is just the UK name for a more expensive "better/higher" class of amphetamine sulphate.The fact that it's wet is just because they didn't dry it out good.Here they just call it pasta or something like that...
Freebase doesn't solve in water and is oil so Swiy couldn't snort it or shoot it or anything caus it simply doens't get taken up by the body

Grtz

[Beanfondler]

Swibf doubted it would be the case simply because smoking it would be the only method of partaking. Kind of a let down that its just amph that hasn't been cut to shit, should have been something at the end of the rainbow.

[KL_Thomie]

Tjah indeed,it's sad nowadays when it comes to quality and it's not Swims tollerance.He used to get his hands on stuff where after an A/B extraction from 1g there was 0.7-0.8gs of pure amph left,these days you even don't get a line out of the average street gram anymore,Swim estimates maybe 3-5% pure.He payed double for the good stuff but it was worth it...

[Conkermon]

Ahh, SWIM thinks he must have been sold crap from his dealer. He'd never bought speed before and when he got it in a baggy he assumed it must have melted in the dealer's pocket.. Now he knows that the dealer must have put it in a baggy so he could mix it with water (whereas a wrap would have leaked). The flowery smell must also be nasal inhaler to mask the lack of smell or the fact it smells wrong.. Speed is supposed to smell like aniceed right? So maybe the dealer thought the flowery smell was the closest thing.

Ah well, that explains why SWIM didn't feel anything. Fuck it he won't bother with speed then if it is that hard to get, he only got it to begin with because the pills in London are so utterly useless.

[KL_Thomie]

If Swiy finds a serious dealer than he will get good stuff since serious dealers aren't intrested in ripping people off,they're more into keeping loyal consumpers.The fact is that speed is always severly cut/diluted.Out here in Europe pure amph or meth in crystal form isn't know,probably to our luck...Speed tastes "chemical",can't really describe it,burns like hell in your nose and than when you snort it to your trouth you almost gotta puke the first time and Swiy prays there's a lot of lemonade around.It has that specific taste,doesn't smell good at all(at first time smelling it ever it made Swim remind of washing powder-it isn't in fact-,after some time one starts to love the smell).After some time one can determine by smelling and looking at it whether it's "good" stuff or it isn't.Swiy might look on some pictures in the gallery.There are some nice pictures of how his stash is supposed to look...

Grtz

[Retro]

Although the smell is hard to describe SWIM would describe the potency of the smell like smelling cat piss (ammonia) very chemically and not a very nice smell if you ask me.

[Beanfondler]

Almost sounds like Swiy's describing the "fishy" smell of base methamphetamine base, which is more accurately ammonia-esk. If thats the case Swibf couldn't see how anyone would have a negative opinion or dislike of the aroma. Swibfs yet to encounter a smell that is as glorious or intoxicating.

[humdroid]

Base is "malodourous moving powder", its off white, sweaty powder, which sits in its own stench.
It has the capability of eating or corroding things like cd cases and plastic baggies.
It smells like crystallized wee, which has been locked in a hot room for a year.

[anablog]

I am in Scotland. Base as defined in the UK is pure amphetamine sulphate crystal which when held in the hands changes to a pasty consistency due to the heat of the hands. The problem with this is that it can be cut with glucose at least 3 glucose for 1 amphetamine and still retain the same pasty consistency.So unless your tastebuds are ready to suffer the taste of unsweetened speed you should not be able to tell the difference until it doesnt work as well as you thought it should. You can take the base paste and recrystallixe very easily with acetone....not nail varnish remover which has water added. This will remove the glucose and recrystallise those beautiful pale yellow/cream crystals. 1 gram should keep you awake for 36 hours if its pure and you should feel like GOD. Everybody who take recreationals should learn basic solvent cleaning techniques and kick those assholes who cut good stuff out of business. Same technique can be used for cleaning MDMA from pills although may require filltering.

[Moonage Daydream]

My kitty's base is redolent of certain cheap and nasty soaps in various institutions (the cat is on about libraries council places not loony bins!) cat pee, cleaning products and the faint tang of hospitals. Harsh as caustic soda which is likely one of the ingredients. Seems the cat is lucky as regards strength but is up and down within the bounds of reasonable quality.