Injecting - How to inject Dilaudid,Morphine, and H?

[Inkmanr6]

Me and my buddy wanna try injecting some of these things because we have always just snorted or chewed them. Is there like a step by step site that we could go to?. It's scary injecting because of the risk of infection and stuff so we want to make sure we do it in the safest way possible. Any info is appreciated!.

[ToxicMind]

Here's a guide to injecting drugs:


Getting Off Right


Look around Erowid also for a lot of good info. -K

[computergod]

I'll be posting a how-to on injection, hopefully soon. You will be able
to find it on my site. I don't know where you live, but see if you can
find a clinic to get good rigs off of. The site that Toxic Mind linked
seems to have good info, read it. I'll have video of actual injection,
it should be helpful to you. Send me an e-mail or PM me if you want me
to update you.

[computergod]

I looked at the Getting Off Right</font>
link, its lacking inportant information. There is another way to use
that is as good as IM for many substances, rectal (UYB, Up your Bum)
injection without a needle works well.</font>

[sleepingjo]

HELP ME IM LOOKING TO MOVE TO ANY ARAE WERE I CAN GET MY NEEDELS, AND SUPPLIES WITH OUT HOURS DRIVING AND HASSEL WHERE IN THE US IS THER HAVEN FOR ME . THANKS BY THE WAY FOR YOUR HELPFUL INJECT TIPS

[fupduk]

You are wise to be asking advice on injecting, if that's what you've made up your mind to do -- I wish someone would have told me a long time agowhatI have found out recently.


The link posted above recommendsfiltering with cotton, and that is not sufficient, in fact when you use cotton you'll get cotton fibers in your bloodstream unless you re-filterusing a wheel filter.


Especially when injecting pills, but also heroin, there are small particles of things that collect on the walls of blood vessels and in the heart and lungs that over time will eventually lead to serious problems.


Tap water contains huge amounts of bacteria, most of it dead, whichcan attach to the walls of the heart and cause endocarditis and other infections. It's very important to use clean water. If you can get sterile water,it must be the typelabeld "for injection," the other kind is hypotonic and dangerous to inject. I use distilled water, I don't really know how clean it is but it must be better than tap water.


The wheel filters that attach to syringes are the best kind of filter, but even they don't get everything out.This link has a good set of instructions on proper preparation of various drugs, the different procedures can beadapted to different kinds of drugs.


http://www.napnt.org/health/filtering_pills.htm#filters


sleepingjo, you can order syringes cheaply online from any number of sources, in boxes of 100 or more.

[sleepingjo]

wow thats what ive been whanting to hear. Im completly new to the web I just got alap yesturday, sorry the last message was in bold type I just learned this is a foe poa, So what are thes wheel filters and this may totaly gross you but i somtimes us clean cig filters . thanks so much fore the reply i was beginning to think i was such a dork no one wasgoing to talk to me.

[fupduk]

There's a description and pics of wheel filters in the link in my last post. It's an australian website but if you're in the USA they have links for suppliers in other countries, I haven't looked at those links so can't tell you any more about them.


I ordered mine from a lab supply co., the ones I got are .45 micron filters, the 25 mm size. That seems to be the same size as the ones pictured in the link. They come in 13 mm and 4 mm also. The bigger they are the more is left behind, and must be rinsed out. With pills, that could be a problem becauseI don't want to shoot any more water than I have to, and with some pills you needto use 3cc's just to get it to go through, and then if you have to rinse the filter out with another cc of water, you then have to either do two shotsor go to a 5cc rig, which I just don't want to do. Most pills, anddefinitely H, canbe properly filtered with less than 3cc's so you can add another cc torinse the filter and still fit itin one (3cc) shot. Forget about using 1cc rigs with these filters.


I ordered mine from a lab supply company near where I live, that way I got them next day using ground shipping. You must be careful to order the kind that is "hydrophilic", i.e. it allows water to pass through the filter. Some resist water, some resist other liquids. That Aussie link seems to have references for filters that are especially for "parenterals" (IV drugs). The ones I got say "for lab use only", but I use em anyway. Some are sterile, some are not, but I believe that even if they aren't sterile, they're still safe, it isn't like they're crawling with germs -- you'll get more germs in yourshot by failing to washyour cookerwith bleach or alcohol than you will from a "non-sterile" filter. That link also has a good set of instructions on the use of wheel filters. Good luck, please feel free to ask if you have questions, I'll help if I can. I'm really just sorry I didn't have the info 20 years ago that I have now on this subject, and as much as I am able to do so, I'mwilling to help anyone who cares enough to try to be safe.

[fupduk]

I got some M30’s today, and I want to add that I just tried using the process in the link I posted for MS Contin, and it didn’t work too well.


Over the years I’ve done hundreds of them, mostly 30’s and 60’s and a few 100’s, and I’ve always done them the way the link says NOT to do them, by heating them almost to boiling and just pulling up as much as possible, which when you do it that way is almost everything in the spoon, and slamming it. It works great, you get a good shot that way even from one M30, but I’m determined not to do it any more since I found out how bad it is for you.


The crap in these pills must be filtered out, or itcan recrystallize in your bloodstream and stick to the walls of blood vessels around the heart and lungs and in time it will kill you. I’m determined not to do it that way any more, even if it means I don’t get high.


When I ran it through a .45 µm wheel filter, it barely went through. What came out was very clear, and not as sticky and slimy, but when I slammed it I got almost zilch. The only thing I can guess is that the morph is bonded with the timed-release crap (silicon dioxide, cellulose, etc.) in a way that makes it hang up in the filter. Different filters are designed to trap different kinds of chemicals, and I may simply have the wrong kind of filter, but I’m just not going to shoot stuff that has been filtered only with cotton any more, now that I know cotton is not only a poor filter, but that cotton fibers are also in the filtered liquidthat can’t even be seen but can still cause damage in your body.


I apologize for going on and on about this, especially since I’m new to the forum, but I’ve done a lot of reading about IV injection dangers lately and I’m freaked out by it, I have definitely had “dyspnea” (shortness of breath) for a long time, which is a primary symptom of the cardiovascular/pulmonary diseases of IV drug use.


I believe that this particular filtering problem is unique to timed release morphine, other opiate tabs, heroin, etc. are much more easily filtered because they don’t have as much of the slimy stuff which I believe is silicon dioxide. Its particles are &lt;.1 µm, absolutely unfilterable by any means. I believe solvent extraction is the only solution, the morphine must be chemically isolated and separated by converting it to a base, dissolving in an appropriate solvent that won’t dissolve the sil. dioxide, then converted back into a salt. This requires chems, lab equipment and chemistry skills not available to most people, including me, so I’m hanging it up.


This process might work a little better with M100’s, I can’t remember if the tabs are the same size as M30 & M60but if they are then there must be a lot less crap in them so they might be wheel-filterable.

[computergod]

The silicon dioxide is probably filterable with my vacuum filter method. Read up on it at the following site:

http://s92551074.onlinehome.us/Wellb...Processing_it_ into_a_pure_form_.html



Its gotten out really fine stuff like that before, it even removed the tannin from salvia.

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[sleepingjo]

thanks so much for all this info. Being the mother of two fine little boys im determined to get high safely. not only because of them but for my health also. my heart thinking about cotton particels behind in my veins, that really sucks you didnt get yur goove on with the 30,s the only way i ever got anything out of the was to shoot badgunk and all im going to check computergod method out soon. Peace.

[fupduk]

C-god, just wanted to say that I thought your link was excellent, itisjust the kind of process I was hoping to find.


I've been thinkingthat in order to properly extract M from timed-release tabs,it would be necessaryto use far more water than you ultimately intend to inject, but I didn't know how to filter or separate it.


I've used naptha for other kinds of extraction, it holds on to veg matter and oils, and I suspected it might also hold on to the gummy stuff in ms contin. Rather than trying to work with solvents like benzene, toluene, etc. to extract the morphine, which I would not feel safe with (especially if I was the one doing it) for something I wanted to inject, it makes much more sense to use a more benign chemical like naptha to pull off the oily stuff instead. The best naptha available OTC is Ronsonol -- the Coleman fuel has something like motor oil in it for lubricating the inner parts of lanterns and stoves, about a tbsp per gallon, and other lighter fluids like zippo are lower grade.


I also think I'll try to hook up a fish tank pump as a vac filter when I get around to trying this -- thanks again for the info.