morphine dependant\want to feel kratom effects

[hul gil]

swim takes about 150mgs of morphine a day for chronic pain but would like to try kratom as he has read some have positive or even pleasurable effects from it . He wonders though if his morphine intake would prevent any positive effects from being felt also if this would be worth trying what would be the best regular leaf , extract,etc. Swim is really interested in kratom but unsure if it would be a waste of time and like everyone else in his position money stops him from being able to experiment as much as he would like.

[enquirewithin]

At a guess, the morphine would stop SWIY feeling much from kratom, as it is a more subtle drug.

[kratom_]

idk swi was pretty addicted to viks and felt the kratom good as hell the first few times, but the tollerace builds up really fast and thats alot of morphine so try it

[Jerry]

I know someone who was on methadone and the Kratom stopped his withdrawal symptoms. He didn't "feel" anything from it, but it worked wonders for his withdrawals

[hul gil]

How much methadone was this person taking,swim need at least 40mgs of dones to keep out of withdrawal also not sure with kratom what swim should take an extract,leaf and mgs?

[Jerry]

swim would take half of an orange wafer per day, had nothing cold turkey and was sick for three days, after that, wasn't sick anymore but very fatigued during the day and kinda unhappy, then he did 120 loricet in a period of 8 days, and got the Kratom. He started with 5 mgs kratom, and it was a lifesaver, he's never felt bad again, been using kratom for about a week. It's legal, cheap, and he honestly feels better and healthier than when on methadone or loricet.

[radiometer]

Ditto as above - a person with a high tolerance for opiates is not likely to get any benefit from kratom except for ease of withdrawals. Think of it like a person with a meth addiction trying to get high from Modafinil.

[crizzle]

what dosage of kratom extract would produce a subtle high or at least releive some mino opiate witdrawel symptoms?

[hul gil]

anyone know what would be best to work with as there are so many extracts to chose from and or leaf and mgs

[AceOvArts]

0.5g - 1g of good quality UEI should do it.

[kschlag88]

If someone is currently taking a very large dose of Methadone, 140MG daily and he decided to quit. would kratom really relieve all the withdrawal symptoms? I don't see how this would work? How long would someone need to take the kratom before totally free of symptoms?