Differences in Fentanyl Patches

[addicted2hc]

SWIM knows that there are 3 different microgram dosages of Fentanyl patches; 50, 75, and 100. SWIMs question is... are the three more potent than one another, or is there just more gel between the 3.

SWIM has seen all 3 patches and the 50 is significantly smaller than the 100. SWIM can't remember how big the 75 looks.

SWIM knows that each patch only releases a certain amount of fentanyl per hour, but is that from more gel or? Any thoughts?

[Psych0naut]

There are 5 different strength, 12,5/25/50/75 and 100ug per hour. The larger patches indeed contain more gel.

[addicted2hc]

But all of the patches are of same potency? Just more gel in the bigger ones correct?

[beentheredonethatagain]

correct that the purity of the fentanyl is the same regardless of the strength.

[KBLSD]

damn swim told his doctor that these patches work for his chronic damn the doctor told him he would give the to him after he tried another med, swim tried it and it didnt work now swims doctors doesnt thinks its a good idea to give him the patches, how should swim convince him its a good idea?

[KBLSD]

damn swim told his doctor that these patches work for his chronic pain the doctor told him he would give the to him after he tried another med, swim tried it and it didnt work now swims doctors doesnt thinks its a good idea to give him the patches, how should swim convince him its a good idea?

[someguy1]

Originally Posted by addicted2hc

But all of the patches are of same potency? Just more gel in the bigger ones correct?

The in all patches is the same. The dosage rate is a factor of surface area. In other words, the larger the patch, the greater the hourly dose.

[someguy1]

Originally Posted by someguy1

The in all patches is the same. The dosage rate is a factor of surface area. In other words, the larger the patch, the greater the hourly dose.

Err, that should read "The gel in all of the patches is the same".

[beentheredonethatagain]

Originally Posted by KBLSD

damn swim told his doctor that these patches work for his chronic pain the doctor told him he would give the to him after he tried another med, swim tried it and it didnt work now swims doctors doesnt thinks its a good idea to give him the patches, how should swim convince him its a good idea?

Been there has had this prescribed to him , and now thank Heaven he no longer is having to deal with those damn patches, In my opinion they are a pain in the ass and never wants to stick another one on again.

[jerbles]

could one put the patch under his tongue?

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by jerbles

could one put the patch under his tongue?

Probably if they wanted to die.

[Psych0naut]

Even the weakest patch contains an amount of Fentanyl which is lethal for most people, let alone the stronger ones. If one has gelpatches, one should start out with a dot the size of a matchhead, and start out with that. Smoked or sublingual, this is plenty for opioid naive people, or even for those who have some tolerance. For the Durogesic and mylan patches, who don't contain any gel, but contain the Fentanyl in their plastic matrix, dosing is the safest. Read the amount of Fentanyl the patch contains on the wrapper. For instance, a 25ug/hour Durogesic patch contains 4,2mg Fentanyl. Cut the patch exactly in half with a scissor. One now has two halfs of patch, each containing around 2,1mg Fentanyl. Now cut one of the halves in two, one now has to halves, each contain around a mg of Fentanyl. Now cut this piece up into 10 pieces of the exact same size, each piece now contains around 100ug(0,1mg) Fentanyl, which is a good starter dose. Remember, one can always take more, but once it's taken, one can't take less, when it's already circulating in one's system. Please be careful.

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yes , I would agree with everything you just said

[jerbles]

Originally Posted by Matt The Funk

Probably if they wanted to die.

I have heard of people putting 100ug blotters under their tongue. Would this be that much different? could swim cut open the patch and put a drop under his tongue?

[Psych0naut]

Yes, that's what I said in the post before yours. Sublingual administration, is absorbing it by placing it under the tongue.

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by jerbles

I have heard of people putting 100ug blotters under their tongue. Would this be that much different? could swim cut open the patch and put a drop under his tongue?

I thought you meant that whole patch, hehe. Well SWIM is going to cut up one of his used patches(which was only used for 12 hours, because SWIM started to get worried he would die in his sleep, even though swim felt the effects when he woke up, he was slowly peaking). SWIM will cut them up into 1/8's and then cut those in half and see how one of them works.

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM has a couple of 50mcg/hr durogesic patches each with 8.4mg of fentanyl in each. SWIM is currently wearing one and is enjoying it a lot. SWIM would like to know the best way to get stronger effects. SWIM understands 100ug is a good starting dose. What does SWIM need to do to the patch? Can it be smoked? Or just taken orally or sublingually?

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by psychedelaholic

SWIM has a couple of 50mcg/hr durogesic patches each with 8.4mg of fentanyl in each. SWIM is currently wearing one and is enjoying it a lot. SWIM would like to know the best way to get stronger effects. SWIM understands 100ug is a good starting dose. What does SWIM need to do to the patch? Can it be smoked? Or just taken orally or sublingually?

EDIT:NVM, SWIM was thinking of the Mylan. Durgesic patches the gel can be smoked or taken sublingually as well, the dose is not as "accurate" though. SWIM is also pretty sure it's possible to slam as well as dry out the gel into a powder.

[youdontknow]

If swiy has a gel patch, cutting with flour or baby powder is possible. Thats what swim does

[psychedelaholic]

Originally Posted by Matt The Funk

EDIT:NVM, SWIM was thinking of the Mylan. Durgesic patches the gel can be smoked or taken sublingually as well, the dose is not as "accurate" though. SWIM is also pretty sure it's possible to slam as well as dry out the gel into a powder.

There isn't any gel its basically a very thin sticky plastic film. SWIM wore it for around 2hours then cut it up. He cut it into 8 then each of there squares into 8 as well. 2 of them absorbed sublingually has produced pretty strong effects. SWIM doesnt have much opiate tolerance, he's done quite a few opiates (H, opium, codeine, DHC, morphine + tram) but does them quite rarely. How would SWIM smoke it? Would he just have to heat it on tin foil.

[Lisa J]

With the flat patches it's possible to extract the fent for smoking or injecting, the method was on the forum a couple of months ago so do a search. SWIM would advise against anything other than the oral route unless SWIY has a high tolerance, also regular fent use really puts your tolerance up very quickly so that within a few weeks it's hard to get high off quite large doses of other opiates including heroin. SWIM is prescribed 100mcg patches (23mgs) and she started off putting part of a used patch under her tongue, eventually she went on to smoking and more recently IV. SWIM ended up with a really bad addiction very quickly, IVing 3 x daily and using heroin & methadone, she was still wearing patches too. SWIM stopped IVing fent a couple of weeks ago and went through 4 days of hell, she was still wearing patches, taking her methadone and using a little heroin. SWIM still can't get high off heroin!!!
BE WARNED SWIM hasn't OD on heroin for many years but has had several near misses in a short space of time with fent, be extra careful.