Health - Sleep Paralysis

[Tortoise]

Greetings Peeps,

Swit has noticed that he gets sleep paralysis much more frequently than usual when he is on opiates. He know this is quite normal with MDMA but would like to know if others have had any similar experiences on opiates.

Sleep paralysis is just fucking awful.

T

[pixplzthx]

The only drug that ever gave the kid around the corner sleep paralysis was trazodone. To compound matters TKATC also got nightmares!

[bloot]

Use of hallucinogens will usually lead to sleep paralysis.. SWIM doesn't think this occurs too often purely from the use of opiates.. What opiates does SWIY speak of ?

[Tortoise]

Poppyseed tea and or codeine

[bloot]

SWIM does know of instances of sleep paralysis due to Opium use.. you are not alone

[jerbles]

opiates do the exact same thing to SWIM. If swim uses a LOT, he will be so high he just passes out, but if he is only relatively high, he will feel tired but sleep will be long to come. This is generally heroin though, so I'm sure weaker forms such as codeine/poppy tea won't produce the "passing out" effect.

[Tortoise]

Originally Posted by jerbles

opiates do the exact same thing to SWIM. If swim uses a LOT, he will be so high he just passes out, but if he is only relatively high, he will feel tired but sleep will be long to come. This is generally heroin though, so I'm sure weaker forms such as codeine/poppy tea won't produce the "passing out" effect.

Sorry dude, but that doesn't sound like sleep paralysis. That sounds like insomnia - also very common with opiates.

[Pino]

The same here on opiates. Sometimes swim just can't get his eyes open or move, while having a really bad nightmare. This usually occurs around the morning. Swim also had it once from MDMA and multiple times from GBL/GHB.

[Mint boi]

My ferret has experienced sleep paralysis with high-ish doses of codeine on two occasions, he had ever experienced it on any other occasion (that he remembers) not even on mdma.

[jerbles]

what exactly is sleep parilysis then?

[Tortoise]

Sleep paralysis is a condition where a person wakes up and.....

...on second thought I can't be bothered explaining. You should look it up on wikipedia, there is a wealth of information on the subject. All I'll say is that it can be a truly terrifying experience and it's not something you want to experience.

peace
Tortoise

[pixplzthx]

Originally Posted by Tortoise

Sleep paralysis is a condition where a person wakes up and.....

...on second thought I can't be bothered explaining. You should look it up on wikipedia, there is a wealth of information on the subject. All I'll say is that it can be a truly terrifying experience and it's not something you want to experience.

peace
Tortoise

Even worse, is when you have one sleep paralysis episode after the other. At one point you convince yourself it is "just" a dream/scenario/whatever, but you are still terrified.

[paranoid_android]

The simplest way of explaining it is that your body is still asleep when your mind awakens. It can happen on accident or on purpose* and is sometimes accompanied by a moderate to severe feeling of what can be aptly described as "doom". It's a bit like feeling there is a mortally menacing presence very close by. For me, it's at least that bad, but often worse. It's usually a sort of panicked dread and sense that I'm somehow dying.

*Lucid dreams can be brought about intentionally by keeping the mind semi-awake while the body drifts into sleep. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't, and it can result in sleep paralysis. Personally, the feelings of death and doom only occur when waking up, not when trying to initiate a lucid dream from a previously conscious state.

[jerbles]

SWIM's experienced it with DXM the two times he tried it.

[soma]

SWIM has encountered this with codiene, but never with hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, propoxyphene, etc

[Kurey]

Wow Swim is freaking out, for the longest time this has happend to him, and had no idea and swim is currently on hydrocodone, and only gets it when he takes to many...Its pretty scary if it happens to you, and its hard to explain to people who have no idea...

[Raw edge]

Swim has experienced this phenomenom numerous times, but curiously never after the consumptions of meds. The first time was pretty scary. Now the terror is short lived and is followed by a minute or two of frustration that his inability to move. He usually just returns to sleep afterward, but may experience it once or twice more that night.

[ironmics]

Swims got it a lot using PST, high kratom doses, and with low dose Benedryl mixed with low dose codeine(25mg each). Since he quit taking opiates he has not experienced it once.

Here's an interesting wiki page kinda comfirming opiates can cause it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_sleep
Not technically sleep paralysis, but from the codeine/bene mix, swim can comfirm it's almost exactly the same.

[soma]

Actually yes, this could be the cause of SWIMs codiene sleep paralysis- he ALWAYS takes benedryl to combat nausea and itchiness. Indeed twilight sleep is an opiate combined with an anticholinergic (like benadryl, albeit a stronger one named scopalamine).

[piuiher]

anyone of you who experience isolated sleep paralysis should try to relax when it happen (you are conscious after all) and then you should start to get out of your bed and try opening the door or the window...this will give you a quick way to reach lucid dreaming.

I have tried it on me many times, since I used to have many instances of isolated sleep paralysis. Your body will stay on the bed without moving but you will feel like you are actually moving.... you can touch things..you can walk, you can even fly ....

you just have to relax and try to move..do not get frightened

ah anoter thing..if you try playing with your willy it will actually get hard for real..

I suggest you read something on the net about ISP, there are a few sites that speka of that ion connection with lucid dreaming