euphoria enhancement possibilities?

[wtfisgoingon]

swim wants to know if there's any way you can somehow get a better high than what the pill normally gives you. any specific food or beverage that could help out when you get mentally hit. I might be trippin right now. there might not be anything like that but if there is, it would be much respect.

[Mint boi]

5-htp supposedly helps with the ecstasy come down, and has been reported to enhace the experience itself if taken i the right dose before. Do some research on it, theres plenty of reports on the board.

My ferret has never bothered with it, as his comedowns aren't bad, and he really enjoys rolling as it is.

[Fantasian]

piracetam definately enhances the experience but can sometimes make it overly strong, and it's suggested that when combined with piracetam although posative effects increase so does toxicity...

[Beta]

Swim noticed that Piracetam can make the experience more aggressive not always in a positive way. For swim, Sam-e is by far the best enhancer for mdma.

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by marcan

Swim noticed that Piracetam can make the experience more aggressive not always in a positive way. For swim, Sam-e is by far the best enhancer for mdma.

sam-e?

[Revancheshepherd]

foods containing tryptophan can help, some people agree that it does.

turkey, salmon, chicken, etc do a quick search on foods containing tyrptophan
or buy some 5htp supplements

[Beta]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

sam-e?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-adenosyl_methionine

[Petethemeat]

SWIM has tried dosing 500mg of 5HTP about 3-4 hours before taking the MDMA. He noticed he required less to get a terrific buzz, and things were very very trippy. SWIM noticed some visual distortion even some true hallucinations in the clouds, when he saw white elephants playing catch Yet these hallucinations were incredibly benign and seemed to be reliant on me wanting to view them- If I let myself relax I could trip and love it.

One thing I found though- I was very hot after I had taken the 5HTP and MDMA. I seemed alright when I had come up, but be careful. SWIM would suggest that if this is emulated, then be doubly careful especially in a concert/ rave situation (even more than normal taking of MDMA)

[SpuzMan]

swims thinks good ol' fashion THC does the trick

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by SpuzMan

swims thinks good ol' fashion THC does the trick

If anything cannabis dulls the "rushing" effect of MDMA, and puts a slightly more paranoid edge to the experience. But everyones different.

[SpuzMan]

Originally Posted by rocksmokinmachine

If anything cannabis dulls the "rushing" effect of MDMA, and puts a slightly more paranoid edge to the experience. But everyones different.

yes like you said everyones different, i find it gives a more hallucinogenic euphoria.

[SpuzMan]

Originally Posted by SpuzMan

yes like you said everyones different, i find it gives a more hallucinogenic euphoria.

I mean swim does :P

[timsk]

does anyone know if Piracetam is legal in australia, and if so, how do i go about getting some?

[KyleM]

Other things that could be a factor are how SWIY consumes the drug. Plugging it will utilize the actual MDMA significantly better. 5-HTP does work, but it must be used correctly in order to enhance the roll, if used incorrectly it can be unpleasant and can diminish the roll. Anything that increases glucocorticoid levels will enhance the roll, piracetam being an example.

Generally SWIY must consider what is involved in how MDMA makes one roll and try to facilitate those aspects rather than just trying to enhance the MDMA itself. Basically the most desired effects of MDMA are achieved through serotonin and oxytocin binding to corresponding receptors, so one would ideally want greater binding of those; more receptors and more of the neurotransmitters to fill those receptors. The best enhancers will be ones that allow for this. SamE is known through research to increase serotonin receptor binding. 5-HTP increases neurotransmitter quantity (serotonin). Piracetam increases glucocorticoid levels which in turn increases the number of serotonin2A receptors available for binding to occur.

When it comes to consuming something aimed at enhancing an MDMA, look for something that is researched to do one of these things. But SWIM will say that even foods containing serotonin precursors will probably not have an amount significant enough to noticeable enhance the roll. When it comes to drinks, caffeine will increase glucocorticoid levels and may actually increase serotonin activity, but like before, this may not be very significant. Alcohol also increases glucocorticoid levels, but SWIM doesn't recommend using that combo.

Has anyone experimented using an oxytocin nasal spray while on MDMA?, SWIM wants to experiment to see if that will enhance MDMA-induced empathy and euphoria.

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very informative and all inclusive! it took a lot of forum reading before I knew all that and I'm a bit jealous of the n...

[candy_kid]

^^ just wanted to point out that while 5-htp increases neurotransmitter quantity, there needs to be some serotonin receptors free for mdma molecules to be taken into them or few effects will be had. I've heard of this happening online in numerous places but for some anecdote evidence; swim once preloaded a ton and then popped mdma shortly after and found the effects to be extremely low and ineffective (mildly unenjoyable actually) with pills that worked rather well at a later date. -- the best thing to do seems to be taking the 5-htp in small quantities once the rushes start to come if they aren't strong enough, or to just save it for when the rushes start to disappear

great post though!