Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

[kryptik]

i've tried Snurf before, but not Snuffadelic. At the time i bought Snurf, i was told Snurf was stronger then Snuff, hence why i bought it... I also bought Legal Speed 2, and Crystal.

Snurf def had an effect on me, but it made my stomach feel horrible, real sour... Legal Speed 2 and Crystal both did nothing to me... it made my other friend bounce off the walls though for days... so i guess it depends on the person, i dunno...

i wouldn't reccommend buying crystal or legal speed 2, cuase both those pills do not contain BZP, which i'm thinking is why they did nothing to me.

Here's what's in Legal Speed 2: 100mg of Citrus Arantium (which each pill they say on the package contains 99.6% of Synephrine)

Crystal also has that same ingredient but it has something else in it too, i forget...cuase i threw out the packaging.

Snurf contains what Snuffadelic contains but it also contains BZP and i believe TFMPP too.

I've seen Explore for sale still, i'd like to try it.. from i heard and read, it seems like it be good. Heard of Spiritwalk but never tried it.

btw, Snuffadelic still is available. It is hard to find, but it's out there. I found it for sale on about 9 sites so far in the states...

yes BZP is a piperazine, i forget what BZP stands for exactly, but it's something like Benzylpiperazine.

don't waste your money w/ LS2 or Crystal... not worth it. it did nothing to me.

[tayo]

Originally Posted by kryptik

i've tried Snurf before, but not Snuffadelic. At the time i bought Snurf, i was told Snurf was stronger then Snuff, hence why i bought it... I also bought Legal Speed 2, and Crystal.

use SWIM

[norcolepsy]

Originally Posted by tayo

use SWIM

I may be new to this site, but I don't think it's necessary to use SWIM when discussing LEGAL highs. From what I've gathered from the FAQ docs, SWIM acts similar to the U.S 5th amendment of not incriminating oneself. Nothing incriminating about legal highs..?

[dslexic1]

Does anyone know for sure that snuffadelic has bzp and tfmpp in it? i found it but i need to know for sure. I also found legal speed. DOes anyone know about K-powder?

[Thirdedge]

The following is a warning on these products issued by the FDA in 2004. Whether the sites still selling these products are still selling old stock or recent knock offs containing TFMPP or whatever is anyones guess:


The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning consumers not to purchase or consume products that claim to provide "safe legal highs" or that are marketed as "street drug alternatives" by XXXXXX Solutions, Inc., of Tampa, Fla. The warning expands on the February 2004 warning concerning a product called Green Hornet, also marketed by XXXXXXX Solutions. Products by this company have been promoted and sold on the Internet and in stores as legal versions of illicit street drugs.

FDA issued a warning in February 2004, about adverse events experienced by four teenagers after they consumed Green Hornet Liquid that contained high levels of the over-the-counter drugs diphenhydramine and dextromethorphan.

FDA analyses of additional products, manufactured or distributed by XXXXXXX Solutions Inc., have not only found the drugs, diphenhydramine HCl and dextromethorphan, but ephedrine and the controlled substances GBL and GHB as well. Although this firm is no longer producing these products, they remain under investigation and FDA is working to identify and address additional distributors of the products. The agency is issuing this warning because consumers may still have these products in their possession or may be able to buy them commercially.

"FDA has taken numerous actions against various products that are being manufactured, marketed, or distributed as street drug alternatives," said Lester M. Crawford, D.V.M., Ph.D., Acting FDA Commissioner. "There is no doubt that these products pose a potential public health concern, and FDA is concerned that these products may be misused or abused by individuals, especially minors and young adults."

The products included in this warning, which consumers should not use, are Trip2Night, Invigorate II, Snuffadelic, Liquid Speed, Solar Water, Orange Butterfly, Schoomz and Green Hornet Liquid. The labeling for these products lists a variety of herbal and other ingredients but does not provide either the name of the manufacturer or the presence of these drug ingredients.

Source: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/news/2004/NEW01049.html

[Mint boi]

^^^
This is an international forum, just because something is legal where you are doesn't mean it is everywhere else, its not the mods job to research every post to find out if you should be using "Swim" or not depending on where you're from, its your job to use it all the time, regardless.

And legal highs become UN-legal all the time so it should definitely apply here.

[norcolepsy]

Originally Posted by mint boi

^^^
This is an international forum, just because something is legal where you are doesn't mean it is everywhere else, its not the mods job to research every post to find out if you should be using "Swim" or not depending on where you're from, its your job to use it all the time, regardless.

And legal highs become UN-legal all the time so it should definitely apply here.

your point is valid. be that as it may, on a personal level, one no longer needs to worry about incriminating his or herself if to describe an experience or usage if it was in fact legal. As far as these drugs becoming illegal from time to time, yes you're 100% right but we are protected as individuals when we commit an illegal act at a time when the act was legal.

I do see your pt as it just being proper etiquette regardless of what's being discussed. If that is the case, then I shall abide.

[Mint boi]

What you say is true, and its probably the thought most new members have regarding the system, but there has been a lot of discussion about it and the "SWIM" method that is currently in use seems the best way, not only to protect the individual, but also the forum! We don't want to see drugs-forum go the same way so many other drug related forums have in the past and get taken down, thats why the rules may seem strict/ excessive at times! ANYWAY! welcome to the forum, enjoy "swimming".

so back on topic ...

[kryptik]

swim thinks using swim is also annoying, but swim got into the habit of using swim and sometimes swim uses swim in forums and blogs that totally don't require the usage of swim. as for the dextro and diphen drugs listed above, can't swiys find that in robitussin? swims friend told swim that drinking a whole bottle of robitussin will get swiys fucked up quick... swiys will have a queasy feeling from drinking the whole bottle since they're not sick, but swims friend said it passes and you get fucked fast and cheap too. swim wouldn't want to do this, robitussin tastes bad... like jagermeister.. swims not a jager fan... too bad about the products, snurf, and stuff... swim misses snurf... that was some good shit.. swim needs to live somewhere where BZP is legal...

[kryptik]

dslexic1, yes snuffadelic (aka snurf) does have bzp and tfmpp. 200mg to be exact. swim remembers her first trip on it. swim knows it was at least 180mg to 200mg of bzp/tfmpp in it. bzp being the most active of course.

as for legal speed (aka LS2), don't even waste your money on it. swim has some, and it doesn't do shit. there is no bzp or tfmpp in legal speed... it only contains citrus aurantium. swim took 2 of these 1 day, and felt nothing. swim gave some to her friend who took one w/ 1 pill of crystal (this is another herbal, for crystal meth, but titled Crystal), and he felt nothing, so then he added 1 pill of snurf, and it was the snurf that he felt. he didn't feel nothing from the previous 2 pills. swim would advise you not to waste your money on it, unless swiy knows for sure that this legal speed has some bzp in it or something.

as for the ketamine powder (k powder), swim has never done it, but heard it's spose to be like trip2night, which swim thinks trip2night is a legal xtc, but heard reports from other friends that why would they compare k powder to xtc when they've told swim that k powder is a downer, and spose to be like valium.

swim has used the real thing, ketamine when she was majoring in the medical field... (not on herself), but the surgeries swim had to do on the vet animals, well, ketamine always put them to sleep... so swim is inclined to think that ketamine is a downer and if k-powder is spose to be herbal ketamine, swim would assume it would be a downer. if swiy can find the k-powder w/ something worth while in it that will make swiy trip, then get it.. if swiy sees bzp listed for it, then it will make you trip, but won't be a downer if bzp is in it.

swim has found places where this stuff is still avail., but swim would really like to get her hands on some more snurf... it was swim's bestseller... more so then anything else she's ever sold...

oh btw, dslexic1, for what you will pay for snurf and the measly amt of bzp in it, swiy could get something way better and stronger in the bzp field then snurf that will knock swiy on his ass... but if swiy is a newbie, go for 1- snurf first... make sure swiy drinks water, lots, cuase you get sour stomach w/ it. or swiy could do the same stupid thing swim did cuase swim didn't know, swim drank tons of orange juice instead... which def intensified swim's trip...

[dslexic1]

Swims not sure if he's even interested interested in bzp. Its just when swim finds something he can buy thats not allowed to be bought he gets excited. Swim always wants what he cant have but when he gets it hes not even interested... But thanks for the info...Swim also thought that K-powder might have DXM in since it is a dissociative just Ketamine. But swim thinks hed rather stick to aneket than tryin some corny alternative.