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Old 04-01-2004, 23:00
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Has anyone tried this kinda stuff??? They look like overpriced rip offs and most of them contain just ephedra, ect. Snuffadelic I heard contains dxm but the site that sells it doesn't state whats in it. I would feel safer doin the real shit lol
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Legal speed is a good product. It contains high amounts methyl-ephedrine and is also sold under the name Explore.


Snuffadelic contains: Fevizia, palenzia, and de la amazone 10X extractions. I have never heard of any of these ingrediënts before. I searched the net, but even Google can't find it. I checked out their other products and descriptions of the supposed effects and I am sure that it is impossible to get the promised effects, with the ingredientsof these products. Even when they use active ingredients, they promise 10 times more, than what the products can do.
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Hi Alfa,


I know that on cannapee.ch there is a huge list with the description of a lot of plants or compounds... perhaps would you find what you're looking for.
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Snuffadelic does seem to havesimilar effects as DXM. Nasty tasting powder, it may very well be dxm...It really can take you to another dimension. [edited by Alfa. Please read the rules]
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Interesting, too bad they don't sell it at the smartshop in town
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Bliss extra also contains Calamus extract which is supposed to give it that xtc like effects.



Also Legal Speed is now illegal and Legal Speed 2 is basically caffeine.


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Snuffedelic the same thing as Snurf?
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Old 13-04-2005, 02:04
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Snuffadelic is the older version of snurf which you were supposed to snort.



What I want to know is what is Crystal (these herbal highs sites claim
that it is similar to BZP...but don't state what it is) and what Spirit
Walk is (they say its similar to shrooms and is currently under review
for scheduling but fail to say what it actually is!)


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Snuffadelic is the older version of snurf which you were supposed to snort.



What I want to know is what is Crystal (these herbal highs sites claim
that it is similar to BZP...but don't state what it is) and what Spirit
Walk is (they say its similar to shrooms and is currently under review
for scheduling but fail to say what it actually is!)

I wonder what these are too. I have read some reports on them and
they seem pretty cool but also kinda seem like bullshit. Has
anyone tried them?

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William_Again. BZP is a cattle wormer, that has stimulant properties, ten times less potent than meth. I live in NZ and here BZP is legal. There are herbal high shops everywhere. You can purchase any of these substances from your corner dairy, service station or pub. Nos has just last week been made ilegal. The government has a policy on 'harm reduction' and these herbals are supposed to replace the huge 'P' problem that we have. However, it is primarily youth that are taking the herbals. These youth donot have exsisting P habits and I wonder if when the herbals are outlawed (which they eventally will) the users will switch to illegal drugs to fill the nitch that they were allowed then not allowed.
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I think Spirit Walk is 4-h0-dipt, which is still legal in the US I think.
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I doubt that it is, but if it is I wouldn't bother buying from there cause their are better places to get 4-ho-dipt.
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Iarak: what do you mean by 'P'?



also, BZP isnt in cattle wormers, you are thinking of piperazine.


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isn't BZP a piperazine?
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Piperazine is one part of BzP. This is avaliable in OTC animal de-wormers





BzP is piperazine with a benzyl group attatched to one of th nitrogens of the piperazine molecule. This is illegal








see what i mean?
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Has anyone been able to establish what the contents of "Crystal" are?
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there was a source mention in 1 of the above posts im not a mod but i just noticed
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Piperazines, structurally speaking, resmble many well-known carcinogens (cancer-causing chemicals). It would not surprise me to see a large increase in cancer rates among the people using these today in ten or so years.
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

crystal is not worth buying at all, anyways the site that used to sell it is now out of business...but I have been doing lot of research on 2c-e , does anyone has information on its effects or quality as a psychedelic?
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

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but I have been doing lot of research on 2c-e , does anyone has information on its effects or quality as a psychedelic?
There is lots of information on 2c-e. It can be found by using the search engine.
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

i've tried Snurf before, but not Snuffadelic. At the time i bought Snurf, i was told Snurf was stronger then Snuff, hence why i bought it... I also bought Legal Speed 2, and Crystal.

Snurf def had an effect on me, but it made my stomach feel horrible, real sour... Legal Speed 2 and Crystal both did nothing to me... it made my other friend bounce off the walls though for days... so i guess it depends on the person, i dunno...

i wouldn't reccommend buying crystal or legal speed 2, cuase both those pills do not contain BZP, which i'm thinking is why they did nothing to me.

Here's what's in Legal Speed 2: 100mg of Citrus Arantium (which each pill they say on the package contains 99.6% of Synephrine)

Crystal also has that same ingredient but it has something else in it too, i forget...cuase i threw out the packaging.

Snurf contains what Snuffadelic contains but it also contains BZP and i believe TFMPP too.

I've seen Explore for sale still, i'd like to try it.. from i heard and read, it seems like it be good. Heard of Spiritwalk but never tried it.

btw, Snuffadelic still is available. It is hard to find, but it's out there. I found it for sale on about 9 sites so far in the states...

yes BZP is a piperazine, i forget what BZP stands for exactly, but it's something like Benzylpiperazine.

don't waste your money w/ LS2 or Crystal... not worth it. it did nothing to me.
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

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i've tried Snurf before, but not Snuffadelic. At the time i bought Snurf, i was told Snurf was stronger then Snuff, hence why i bought it... I also bought Legal Speed 2, and Crystal.
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

The following is a warning on these products issued by the FDA in 2004. Whether the sites still selling these products are still selling old stock or recent knock offs containing TFMPP or whatever is anyones guess:


The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is warning consumers not to purchase or consume products that claim to provide "safe legal highs" or that are marketed as "street drug alternatives" by XXXXXX Solutions, Inc., of Tampa, Fla. The warning expands on the February 2004 warning concerning a product called Green Hornet, also marketed by XXXXXXX Solutions. Products by this company have been promoted and sold on the Internet and in stores as legal versions of illicit street drugs.

FDA issued a warning in February 2004, about adverse events experienced by four teenagers after they consumed Green Hornet Liquid that contained high levels of the over-the-counter drugs diphenhydramine and dextromethorphan.

FDA analyses of additional products, manufactured or distributed by XXXXXXX Solutions Inc., have not only found the drugs, diphenhydramine HCl and dextromethorphan, but ephedrine and the controlled substances GBL and GHB as well. Although this firm is no longer producing these products, they remain under investigation and FDA is working to identify and address additional distributors of the products. The agency is issuing this warning because consumers may still have these products in their possession or may be able to buy them commercially.

"FDA has taken numerous actions against various products that are being manufactured, marketed, or distributed as street drug alternatives," said Lester M. Crawford, D.V.M., Ph.D., Acting FDA Commissioner. "There is no doubt that these products pose a potential public health concern, and FDA is concerned that these products may be misused or abused by individuals, especially minors and young adults."

The products included in this warning, which consumers should not use, are Trip2Night, Invigorate II, Snuffadelic, Liquid Speed, Solar Water, Orange Butterfly, Schoomz and Green Hornet Liquid. The labeling for these products lists a variety of herbal and other ingredients but does not provide either the name of the manufacturer or the presence of these drug ingredients.

Source: http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/news/2004/NEW01049.html
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