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Old 04-01-2004, 23:00
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Has anyone tried this kinda stuff??? They look like overpriced rip offs and most of them contain just ephedra, ect. Snuffadelic I heard contains dxm but the site that sells it doesn't state whats in it. I would feel safer doin the real shit lol
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Old 05-01-2004, 01:41
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Legal speed is a good product. It contains high amounts methyl-ephedrine and is also sold under the name Explore.


Snuffadelic contains: Fevizia, palenzia, and de la amazone 10X extractions. I have never heard of any of these ingrediënts before. I searched the net, but even Google can't find it. I checked out their other products and descriptions of the supposed effects and I am sure that it is impossible to get the promised effects, with the ingredientsof these products. Even when they use active ingredients, they promise 10 times more, than what the products can do.
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Hi Alfa,


I know that on cannapee.ch there is a huge list with the description of a lot of plants or compounds... perhaps would you find what you're looking for.
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Snuffadelic does seem to havesimilar effects as DXM. Nasty tasting powder, it may very well be dxm...It really can take you to another dimension. [edited by Alfa. Please read the rules]
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Interesting, too bad they don't sell it at the smartshop in town
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Bliss extra also contains Calamus extract which is supposed to give it that xtc like effects.



Also Legal Speed is now illegal and Legal Speed 2 is basically caffeine.


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Also Legal Speed is now illegal
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Re: Snuffadelic, legal speed, ect

crystal is not worth buying at all, anyways the site that used to sell it is now out of business...but I have been doing lot of research on 2c-e , does anyone has information on its effects or quality as a psychedelic?
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Snuffedelic the same thing as Snurf?
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Snuffadelic is the older version of snurf which you were supposed to snort.



What I want to know is what is Crystal (these herbal highs sites claim
that it is similar to BZP...but don't state what it is) and what Spirit
Walk is (they say its similar to shrooms and is currently under review
for scheduling but fail to say what it actually is!)


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Snuffadelic is the older version of snurf which you were supposed to snort.



What I want to know is what is Crystal (these herbal highs sites claim
that it is similar to BZP...but don't state what it is) and what Spirit
Walk is (they say its similar to shrooms and is currently under review
for scheduling but fail to say what it actually is!)

I wonder what these are too. I have read some reports on them and
they seem pretty cool but also kinda seem like bullshit. Has
anyone tried them?

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William_Again. BZP is a cattle wormer, that has stimulant properties, ten times less potent than meth. I live in NZ and here BZP is legal. There are herbal high shops everywhere. You can purchase any of these substances from your corner dairy, service station or pub. Nos has just last week been made ilegal. The government has a policy on 'harm reduction' and these herbals are supposed to replace the huge 'P' problem that we have. However, it is primarily youth that are taking the herbals. These youth donot have exsisting P habits and I wonder if when the herbals are outlawed (which they eventally will) the users will switch to illegal drugs to fill the nitch that they were allowed then not allowed.
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I think Spirit Walk is 4-h0-dipt, which is still legal in the US I think.
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Old 27-05-2005, 01:24
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I doubt that it is, but if it is I wouldn't bother buying from there cause their are better places to get 4-ho-dipt.
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Iarak: what do you mean by 'P'?



also, BZP isnt in cattle wormers, you are thinking of piperazine.


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Old 31-05-2005, 22:11
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isn't BZP a piperazine?
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Piperazine is one part of BzP. This is avaliable in OTC animal de-wormers





BzP is piperazine with a benzyl group attatched to one of th nitrogens of the piperazine molecule. This is illegal








see what i mean?
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Has anyone been able to establish what the contents of "Crystal" are?
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there was a source mention in 1 of the above posts im not a mod but i just noticed
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Piperazines, structurally speaking, resmble many well-known carcinogens (cancer-causing chemicals). It would not surprise me to see a large increase in cancer rates among the people using these today in ten or so years.
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Piperazines, structurally speaking, resmble many well-known carcinogens (cancer-causing chemicals). It would not surprise me to see a large increase in cancer rates among the people using these today in ten or so years.
swiy thinks sporadic use may cause cancer ?
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Piperazines, structurally speaking, resmble many well-known carcinogens (cancer-causing chemicals). It would not surprise me to see a large increase in cancer rates among the people using these today in ten or so years.

Testosterone and Estrogen have VERY similar. Yet they produce very different effects on the body.
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I'm not trying to say that they are not carcinogenic(as high levels of estrogen are correlated with breast cancer), as I would not know. I'm just trying to show that a changes to a molecule can produce VERY different effects.
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thx for explaining this stuff a bit further !
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but I have been doing lot of research on 2c-e , does anyone has information on its effects or quality as a psychedelic?
There is lots of information on 2c-e. It can be found by using the search engine.
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