Comedown - Very Restless after 3 days of Coke

[Wyborowa]

So swim did blow Mon- wed. night. Each night swim did about .5-1 gram. Now yesterday, (Thurs.) His whole body felt RESTLESS. He just couldn't sit /lay down w/o the urge to move. Swim is so uncomfortable.. Is this normal withdrawls from blow?? This morning, 2nd day swim has been clean of blow swim feels the same as yesterday!! And before swim did coke for those 3 days, he hasn't done it since God knows when....

Whats wrong with swim??? Thanks alot for reading at least!!

[trptamene]

Cocaine is a stimulant and after several days of use it can be difficult for the body to become "de-stiumlated" even when the mind feels tired. Swiy's body really took a beating and it takes time to recover. Tell swim to shower and eat a nutricous (sp?) good meal, and maybe some smart products, some downers could be useful if it becomes unbearable, but swiy's body is trying to detox, they should let it if they can. Swim usually takes a cocktail of centrum, sublingual b-12, & 5-htp daily when he is benging like this. There are probably also some better smart drugs that are particular to cocaine, which acts on dopamine, so maybe some type of dopamine biosynthetic precursor, but I don't know if they have these or what it would be.

Also, one may consider the possibility that the drug was cut with some type of more stimulating or longer lasting drug. Possibly a little meth thrown in there to keep the user high longer and increase the euphoria making the person thinking they got a better product than they actually did. If this is the case, the person will probably feel it for up to this long or long and meth come-downs are notorious for being nasty to some people.

What's wrong with you? I have no idea, but your friend seems like he just needs to let his body do its thing, if it has not decreased at all after another 36-48 hours, one might consider seeking medical attention, but from swims experience the third day feels much better than the first two.

[Wyborowa]

Awww, crap. Swim just bought one .2g bag just to get the jitters off swim. Swim wanted to know if it was actully the blow, not nothing else, (Like his new GENERIC wellbutrin) How far will this set swim back in terms of recovery? Swim did apporx .2g. But swim said it was very pure, and the high lasts pretty long. THe comedown swim is having now isn't bad at all, just wonders if the restlessness will come back like last time...

[trptamene]

Originally Posted by Wyborowa

Awww, crap. Swim just bought one .2g bag just to get the jitters off swim. Swim wanted to know if it was actully the blow, not nothing else, (Like his new GENERIC wellbutrin) How far will this set swim back in terms of recovery? Swim did apporx .2g. But swim said it was very pure, and the high lasts pretty long. THe comedown swim is having now isn't bad at all, just wonders if the restlessness will come back like last time...

A cocaine high actually does not last that long, this is why repeated dosage is done. How does swim know it was pure. The only way to be sure is to weigh it before, extract the goods, weigh it after and divide the weights and multiply by 100 to get the % purity.

I'm not sure if this will put off swiys recovery a great deal, and maybe a baby bump to stop the jitters might help, but I am not sure. Just make sure he does binge again, at least of the same drug.

I've read that if cocaine is really pure, these side/after - effects are not nearly as bad. Me thinks swiy should really look into purification, it is a better high and is much safer. Here is a link to a thread i started that links to the two main purification threads. You should really look at the A/B extraction one and the pictures with in it (which I think are posted by epote or destruckt11), he shows a picture of all the nasty shit that is left over that swiy would be putting in their body:

Here it is: Purity - Does swiy purify cocaine ?
I'll see if I can't find exactly where those pics are, if I do I'll edit this.

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Great, helpful answer's, fast reply's.

[Wyborowa]

Now he claims it to be very pure because swim's dealer sells heroin w/ it, so it's meant for shootin' as swim's dealer said. And a while back when swim was speedballin, swim would shoot the coke sepreatly, and when he put in a really small baby bump, swim saw the water turn a tinge of yellow, just like oil on water. Breaking it up it easy, it's pretty moist, goes into a fine powder w/o hard chuncks flying out, mostly kinetic energy as some other poster posted on this foum . But so far, swim feels pretty normal, considering how swim felt the last 2 days.... I don't understand it...

BTW: I really appreciate the fast replying

[trptamene]

Originally Posted by Wyborowa

Now he claims it to be very pure because swim's dealer sells heroin w/ it, so it's meant for shootin' as swim's dealer said. And a while back when swim was speedballin, swim would shoot the coke sepreatly, and when he put in a really small baby bump, swim saw the water turn a tinge of yellow, just like oil on water. Breaking it up it easy, it's pretty moist, goes into a fine powder w/o hard chuncks flying out, mostly kinetic energy as some other poster posted on this foum . But so far, swim feels pretty normal, considering how swim felt the last 2 days.... I don't understand it...

BTW: I really appreciate the fast replying

Drugs can be funny like that, right when swiy thinks they know the nature of the drug it will turn its head and show you a new face you've never seen before. Particularly when the source and purity of the drug can be variable like cocaine. Swim has no experience with injection, so he doesn't know if this sounds pure or not, but he would never inject something because someone told him it is pure unless it came from a reputable company along with a MSDS and some spectrum to back up their purity claims.

[epote]

its CNS depletion.

the restlessness i mean.

just let your CNS recover, dont use ANY MORE drugs of ANY kind (no benzos!) let your brain come to balance.

a hot cold shower and a massage will help very very much

[~lostgurl~]

Low dopamine levels can cause Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS - which can actually affect the whole body, not just the legs) and the longer one uses dopamine boosting drugs, the longer & more severe the RLS will be when the drug is stopped. Not everyone has this symptom, when a person has low levels of dopamine the more common symptoms are depression, hunger, cravings, lethargy & inability to concentrate. RLS seems to only occur in more severe cases of dopamine depletion, with the most severe being Parkinson’s Disease.

I’ve done a fair bit of research on this subject, but specific case studies are extremely hard to find which I think is primarily a result of the number of misdiagnosed RLS sufferers. If SWIM hadn’t researched her symptoms thoroughly online, she doubts her Dr would have ever come up with the correct diagnosis, and SWIM has a lot of respect for her doctor’s capabilities. If anyone has any information or experience on this subject I’d be very interested to hear it.

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[epote]

If anyone has any information or experience on this subject I’d be very interested to hear it.

athletes after doing prolonged high intencity training like maximal weight lifts, sprint etc, get that, im not sure its dopamine alone, could be muscle ph changes and abnormalities in Ach levels in motor neurons. Though dopamine depletion could be the cause, but i dont think you can actually deplete your dopamine so much simply by high intencity training.

In any case the net effect is restlessnes, muscle twitching (random spams) and a general feeling of tired excitment (i.e you want to sleep but cant, you constantly feel an electric feeling on your low back and legs etc).

Performing a non invasing non bruissing but relatively deep masage and a contrast shower can REALLY help with that, it is used regularly with ahtletes, along with BCAA and tyrosine suplamentation.

Also, while androgens tend to increase the possibility of getting in that state after training (figures, androgens 1) increase the intencity and 2) increase DAT's(*)) administration of insulin (and or hGH or IGF) seems to greatly reduce the time it needs to recover. Especially insulin can provide relieve from the symptoms very fast indeed, thats why i say it must have some peripheral nature as well.

opinions?

p.s. these are hands on observations, im not pulling them out of my flamingos ass


*Increased dopamine transporter density in the male rat brain following chronic nandrolone decanoate administration. Kindlundh AM, Rahman S, Lindblom J, Nyberg F.

[~lostgurl~]

I think the examples you have given are a separate ailment altogether from RLS. Either could be a valid explanation for the OP's situation, but they are not the same thing even though many of the symptoms are similar.

Primary RLS has no cure and even most of the treatments currently used to treat it become ineffective over time as tolerance develops. Seconday RLS is a symptom of another health issue, which can often be cured by treating the original issue. RLS is usually treated with Dopamine Agonists and no natural therapies have been successful in treating it, sometimes they may offer some relief but they cannot take away the symptoms entirely. Where as the symptoms you are talking about are short term and helped by a range of treatments that would have no affect on someone with RLS.

But as I said above, either of these could be a valid explantion for the OP's restlessness, or it could be something else entirely.

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[some_random_guy]

That's horrible, it's stories like these that make me never want to try cocaine, snorted or freebase.