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Old 24-10-2007, 23:24
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Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

As some of you may have noticed, Alfa is trying to make some major changes in the RC forum. In particular we are trying to make two threads for every research chemical. One where people post their experiences and another where information about these drugs are compiled. Currently I have been making many of these threads, but it is very important the information we compile here is correct and all the links within the threads are working and linking to the correct page.

Here are two examples of these threads:

Drug info - Aleph-7
Experiences - Aleph-7 experiences

In particular these things need to be checked:
  • Title & Prefixes
    Is the drug-info prefix with the drug-info thread? Likewise for the experiences. Is the name of the drug in the title correct (i.e. is it really the chemical that has information posted about it?)
  • Example Dose & duration
    Is the example dose & duration listed in quotes like this?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EXAMPLE
    Dosage: 15 mg in one glass juice
    Route: Orally
    Duration: 12 hours
    We want to avoid confusion and make sure people understand these may not be an inappropriate dose for this substance.
  • Wanted information:
    Are all of these in the experiences thread?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trptamene View Post
    When posting a experience, please describe:
    • body weight & gender
    • dose taken
    • route of administration
    • Setting: in what environment it was taken.
    • duration of main effects
    • main effects
    • side effects
    • after effects
    • rating of the experience
    • addictive qualities / abuse potential
    • any other valuable information
    Are all of these in the Drug-info thread?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trptamene View Post
    • names / synonyms
    • molecule
    • dose
    • duration
    • side effects
    • legal status
    • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
    • since when has this research chemical been available?
    • stability of the molecule / compound
  • Links
    These two threads should link to eachother, is this link working? Is it linking to the correct thread, or did we mess up and they got crosslinked?
    These two threads should link to a search for in the file archive for that particular drug, is this link working? Is the search term right?
  • Name and Molecule
    The drug info thread should have Shulgin's names (including shorthand), as well as the IUPAC name, does it? Look at the molecule, is the structure right(if you know what you're looking at)? Is the name on the molecule picture correct for both the molecule pictured and the actual thread itself (ex, i accidently stuck the 2ct-7 molecule in 2ct-2 and Alfa caught it for me).

When I make these new threads, I try to go through and make sure all of this is there; but there are a TON to be made and i am sure i am going to miss some information. So I am asking for help from D-F members, if you see something wrong in these threads, please post it here so it can be fixed. Actually going through each thread and making sure all of this is good, but I am already doing that and do not expect people to invest this kind of time (particularly since someone else already is). I am simply asking people to keep an eye out and maybe check out a couple of these things everynow and then.

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Old 30-10-2007, 17:56
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Re: Help drugs-forum by proofreading research chemical threads

Alfa:

I am going back through and putting these in my experience threads.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EXAMPLE
Dosage: 15 mg in one glass juice
Route: Orally
Duration: 12 hours
I have began to use the dose and duration from pihkal/tihkal instead of the generic one to avoid confusion as you had seem to want.

If I see one of your experience threads that is not practicing this I will notify you here and go ahead and post the example. I will only do this if it is not quoting these I mean, if you are not using the pihkal/tihkal or other known dose and duration of the drug you probably have a reason for it.

For instance, your 2ct7 thread http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40569 should have this

Quote:
Originally Posted by EXAMPLE
Dosage: 15 mg in one glass juice
Route: Orally
Duration: 12 hours
and the 2ct2 thread http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40568

Quote:
Originally Posted by EXAMPLE
Dosage: 16 mg in one glass juice
Route: Orally
Duration: 8 hours
Please let me know if you would like a better way of notifying you? I had thought about just using the report button on the post and putting the example in it, but am not sure if this is an appropriate use of the report system.


Also, your 4-ho-det thread is missing the link to the archive search These documents about 4-HO-DET are in the file archive

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Old 14-11-2007, 02:42
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Re: Help drugs-forum by proofreading research chemical threads

Thank you to all the members that have pointed out some of the errors in these threads. Your help is greatly appreciated.

I respectfully request that these errors be posted here, while posting them in the thread they were found is useful, it opens up the chance of this post not being read by anyone that can change the erroneous information. If people post it here I promise I will read all these posts and take the neccesary steps to have the information corrected, whether this is fixing it myself or informing Alfa, the poster, or the RC mod if one exists.

Thanks again,
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Old 17-11-2007, 03:15
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Re: Help drugs-forum by proofreading research chemical threads

Alfa:

The 2C-E Experiences thread needs this on the OP:

Quote:
Originally Posted by trptamene View Post
Please add your experiences with 2C-E here. Please add dosage, route and duration to the top of your post like this:


Info about this drug (other than experiences) should be discussed here: Drug info - 2C-E
These documents about 2C-E are in the file archive

When posting a experience, please describe:
  • body weight & gender
  • dose taken
  • route of administration
  • Setting: in what environment it was taken.
  • duration of main effects
  • main effects
  • side effects
  • after effects
  • rating of the experience
  • any other valuable information

Also, I think it is important that erroneous information in an area such as this is minimized as much as possible. Do you think we could make this a sticky? If not permanently then at least until our little project is near completion.
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Old 17-11-2007, 03:57
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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

How about citing the source for the original posts in drug info threads (PIHKAL, TIHKAL, etc.)?

Another interesting thing to do would be posting links to files in the archive about the particular RC to provide scientific info.
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Old 17-11-2007, 18:02
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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

Like just putting this at the bottom: (for 2c-i)?

Shulgin, A.T. & Shulgin, A. Pihkal. Berkeley: Transform Press, 1991 pp. 539-41

I don't know Ann's middle name or if they prefer to have their middle names, anyone know?
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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

If someone would write a good review for PIHKAL and / or TIHKAL and place that in the book review section, then we could include links to that.
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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

Hey Alfa...my pic searches in the RC index threads come up w/ this:


Warning: require(/domains/drugs-forum.com/public_html/photopost/languages/english.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/drugsforum/domains/drugs-forum.com/public_html/photopost/pp-inc.php on line 176

Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/domains/drugs-forum.com/public_html/photopost/languages/english.php' (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/drugsforum/domains/drugs-forum.com/public_html/photopost/pp-inc.php on line 176


I am guessing this will be fixed w/ the new server, but thought I would inform you.

EDIT:

This is working now, if you did something thanks alfa.

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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

On the tryp table the link for GANESHA does not work. Also, the AMT drug info line reads as follows:
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Re: Harm Reduction - Help minimize erroneous info by proofreading RC threads.

Right*

As for the multiple threads for the DI (drug info) thread the plan is to eventually merge these.

Thanks for the heads up on the table, i'll get it fixed.
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