Combinations - How bad ARE speedballs...really?

[Stuck]

SWIM has taken 50mg adderall xr(dextroamphetamine,etc) with 1mg of xanax(alprazolam) before. SWIM enjoyed it, it took the edge off... just a seedy euphoric buzz.

SWIM is wondering how bad is this really? SWIM has always heard that speedballs are terrible for your heart, he is just wondering why. This may sound stupid, but he really wants to know the hard facts.

[x cynic x]

In a nutshell, when Swim starts to combine his white and his H in a syringe, then there could be some serious dangers. At the moment, Swim is reasonably safe with a low dosage along with oral administration.

[Stuck]

That's good to know. Thanks for the reply. SWIM figures it is a rather mild speedball, but he was also hoping to find pharmacological info on why speedballs are bad for one's body. From what swim has read, speedballs are bad for you...but no real reason why...just all hearsay.

Of course SWIM is not doubting that speedballs are bad for one's body, he just wants to know the pharmacological contradictions they can cause.

[Petethemeat]

Speedballs themselves, provided they are taken at a reasonable dosage and totally clean- are not known to be terribly harmful. Heroin is a more benign drug physiologically than coke- coke can cause increased pressue on the cardiovascular system and in some cases lead to heart attacks. yet most drugs are not pure, and all possible problems from injecting can occur. Doses are also not a sure thing- and injecting two drugs increases the chances of an overdose.

Its harm mostly stem from it's addiction potential. An injected speedball is said to be one of the most euphoric feelings it is possible to experience. This coupled with the incredibly addictive nature of both drugs, leads to addiction in most cases. And addiction to a combination such as speedball is very very bad news and death is a very distinct possibility.

[Stuck]

Originally Posted by Petethemeat

Speedballs themselves, provided they are taken at a reasonable dosage and totally clean- are not known to be terribly harmful. Heroin is a more benign drug physiologically than coke- coke can cause increased pressue on the cardiovascular system and in some cases lead to heart attacks. yet most drugs are not pure, and all possible problems from injecting can occur. Doses are also not a sure thing- and injecting two drugs increases the chances of an overdose.

Its harm mostly stem from it's addiction potential. An injected speedball is said to be one of the most euphoric feelings it is possible to experience. This coupled with the incredibly addictive nature of both drugs, leads to addiction in most cases. And addiction to a combination such as speedball is very very bad news and death is a very distinct possibility.

SWIM completely understands how an IV of adulterated cocaine and heroin would be extremely dangerous.

SWIM is rx'd xanax. He trades some of his xanax to his pet whale for 25mg adderall xr capsules.(Who knew they prescribed whales adderall?!)

Anyway...SWIM takes 1mg of xanax and devours one adderall capsule by chewing it and washing it down. He waits 45 min and chews down another 25mg addy xr. How would this compare to the speedball SWIPete was talking about in terms of danger/harm?

SWIM has only had a total of 75mg of adderall in the past 2 days, yet he hasn't (and couldn't) slept in over 48 hours...even after munching down large amounts of xanax footballs.

SWIM tried taking some kratom for the comedown this time, rather than xanax. Kratom is a godsend for addy comedowns(and alot of other things too). So swim thinks he will actually get some sleep tonight!

Reputation Comments on this post:

You're right, who indeed knew that Whales were scrip junkies?!!!

[JaWill88]

Originally Posted by Petethemeat

Speedballs themselves, provided they are taken at a reasonable dosage and totally clean- are not known to be terribly harmful. Heroin is a more benign drug physiologically than coke- coke can cause increased pressue on the cardiovascular system and in some cases lead to heart attacks. yet most drugs are not pure, and all possible problems from injecting can occur. Doses are also not a sure thing- and injecting two drugs increases the chances of an overdose.

Its harm mostly stem from it's addiction potential. An injected speedball is said to be one of the most euphoric feelings it is possible to experience. This coupled with the incredibly addictive nature of both drugs, leads to addiction in most cases. And addiction to a combination such as speedball is very very bad news and death is a very distinct possibility.

yes cocaine is the more dangerous one of the two. swim has ived many many speedballs with varying amounts of black and white (heroin and coke). any time swim came anywhere near overdose was because it was too much coke. and it isn't wise to get addicted to this practice as coke is never good enough without heroin, and heroin never good enough without coke. this becomes extremely addicting and NEVER leads one somewhere good.

[Panthers007]

Speedballs pull your heart muscles one way, then the other - simultaniously. Hence they are are frequently fatal. End of story. And end of many people.

[Petethemeat]

Well as a comparison to the aforementioned heroin/coke speedball, your combination is better for a number of reasons.

1. It is pharmaceutically pure
2. It is not injected (less likely to overdose)
3. Those drugs on average are of less potency than heroin/coke

Yet you are still taking a risk. You are as SWIPanthers rightly said pulling your body in two motions at the same time. You also risk addiction to both substances with possibly combined withdrawl symptoms. While prescription meds are generally considered safe for medical purposes and dosages- recreational dosages are much riskier- and very little is known about the effects of combining two prescription meds.

[BCHILLZ]

SWIM is planning on doing 1g of coke and wants to know how much OC is safe to mix with this. SWIM has a normal tolerance to OC and a slightly higher tolerance to coke

[JaWill88]

Originally Posted by BCHILLZ

SWIM is planning on doing 1g of coke and wants to know how much OC is safe to mix with this. SWIM has a normal tolerance to OC and a slightly higher tolerance to coke

swiy needs to fill in a few things first. 1. how is this cocaine going to be done. 2. over how long of a period of time. 3 how much oxy does swiy take at a time. 4. how does swiy do the oxy.

[BCHILLZ]

The cocaine will be insufflated...it will be over about 5 hours....havnt done oxy all that much, SWIM was wondering what would be safe for a moderately new user to mix these.... and the oxy will be popped

[I<3Salvia]

Yeah dude, mixing uppers and downers can be bad news quick. If you're going to do it, try taking weaker drugs, lowered presciptions, and oral ingestion rather than IV. If you make the wrong dosage, or are just having a bad day, your heart can stop, and you'll drop where you stand.

[KillroyMindless]

this is very dangerous heroin and coke are harmful by them selfs but mixing them?
its just not a good idea. speeding up and slowing down swiy heart rate at the same time
cant be good. and to much stress on swiys heart will probably kill him. the first time swim heard about this drug was his therapist telling him about a guy who did it where part of the thrill he was expecting was weather or not he would die from it. even if a person lives its possible swiys heart would never be the same. similar to people after they have heart attacks would be swims guess.

[truth]

well obviously SWIY is hurting his or her body so no, probley SWIYS heart will take effect from it. But Mcdonalds does too.

[kaliwraith]

SWIM carries a pocket mg scale and purifies his cocaine, so he's not too worried about overdosing. Besides the problem of throwing up for 12 hours the next day, speedballing is far less addictive than shooting coke alone - coming off the coke, SWIY is like "well, i'm still on heroin", which lacks that harsh comedown. Purified coke doesn't have much of a comedown, but the desire to do another hit after the effects wear off is still very strong just because it's so fun. Basically, shooting coke can go on and on for days, SWIM did 9 grams in 5 days once of super pure coke.

One article suggested that people die from OD'ing on heroin but don't realize until the coke wears off that their body is gonna shut down. Don't have any idea how accurate that is.

[KillroyMindless]

if they od like that they would probably die before the coke wore off swim would at least by swims hearts shity so swim dont know it makes sence how the coke could be less addicteve but together if they were prolonged that would be the most fucked up withdrawals. and mentaly would swiy want to do it agian so horribly bad? cus theyre both fun drugs or is it a high where swiy wakes up going shit that fucking sucked