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buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
okay swim knows this is kind of weird. lol. anyways... swim has been on suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone) for a pretty gross heroin habbit and has been on it for almost one year now. when swim got on this medicine he was told by his doctor that there were not much withdrawals at all, nothing to even think about. that is the worst lie swims ever been told
. they are terrible. unlike heroin withdrawal, which is pretty much at its peak at day 3 or 4, buprenorphine withdrawal just barely starts at day 3 or 4!!! its a little less intense, but really not by much, and it lasts way way way longer. swim would rather suffer short acting opiate withdrawal and day of the week. bup withdrawal can make your brain take months to really start functioning normally. its disgusting. anyways... swim is really considering using poppy tea for a month or two and become completely dependant on the tea and not at all dependant on bup. then eventually swim will take suboxone for seven days as a detox. this is to go through the least withdrawal possible. swim will probably take some benzos for a few days after the sub is over just to help out as well. swim really wants to do this. does anyone have any good reason as to why this wouldn't be even a slightly good idea? anything terribly wrong with this? swim realizes this probably isn't a get out of withdrawal free card lol . also swims cat may get them online for him. do they still work good, as if they were dried out from swiys own back yard? is there a best variety to use? does swiy know how to get the most weight for the money, as in small heads, medium heads, or large heads? are there any strains of PS that don't contain the alkaloids? anything to watch out for? swim was going to try this same plan with heroin.. actually already did but only for a couple days but its just not good. it sort of defeats the purpose of ever being on suboxone. swims parents didn't really like the heroin idea either. also, its way too expensive! sorry for all the typing but swim would really like some help. thank all you swiys out there you all have such good information!![]()
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
anyone?
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
This sounds like a pretty solid plan for your friend. Tell him to keep in mind that although dried poppy pods are easily obtainable with next to no hassle (legal or otherwise), they are still technically illegal in the United States and he would be a fool to be too public with this information. I also do not officially recommend breaking any laws, but my friend that happens to be sitting next to me has some advice:
"All strains of Papaver somniferum contain narcotic chemicals. Potency varies, but not as much as, say, cannabis. The primary active narcotic in poppy pods is morphine. Morphine is not very effective when taken orally and thus large amounts of it are needed. A smaller dose can give the same effect when administered rectally or perhaps by smoking it. A rectal guide to morphine (and this includes poppy tea if it's a small enough volume of liquid) is available in the morphine section of these forums. A guide to making and smoking opium from dried poppy pods is on here somewhere. Just use the search engine for "flake opium". Using either of these methods, while more time-consuming than tea, are probably going to be cheaper in the long run by needing less poppy material per dose. If money is no object, tea will work just as well but is just more wasteful. Back to SWIY's actual questions. A good thing to do is to look for something on the seller's website that specifically states the poppies are not treated or sprayed with any chemicals or pesticides. The poppy pod sellers that actually sell pods for flower arrangements don't care about some sick junky eating insecticide or lacquer. As far as types of pods, I've heard that tasmanians are on average a bit more potent than others. The potency still varies from pod to pod, vendor to vendor, and batch to batch. I've also heard that larger heads are preferable but more expensive." My friend just left, so that's the end of his advice. Hope SWIY gets through this without resorting to heroin all over again. |
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
thank you swipara this info was very very helpful. appreciated greatly. this confirmed everything swim was pondering.
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
lets say swim needs a 50mg dose of morphine to stay well (avoid withdrawal symptoms). could any swiy give a guestimate on how many medium, golf ball sized pods that would be? swim has heard the ratio of morphine in opium and stuff but that doesn't help swim too much. does anyone have a general range of morphine content in an average medium sized pod?
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
Use the forum search engine. All this stuff can be found that way.
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
I'd recommend replacing the tea with opium or tramadol.
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
thank you all very much for this information it really helps!
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Re: buprenorphine, to poppy tea, back to buprenorphine, then free!?
its preetty good idia its what swim thinks is best
swim thinks u should get on poppy tea for a while, switch to kratom for a while, and get on valiums for a mo. or so and u should be fine |
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