MDMA vs ECSTACY

[gibsonUSA]

swims done e a few times and had great times. swim also just did pure MDMA and didn't have as good a time. it just wasn't as intense as the E. any reasons why or pointers??

[pipolito]

maybe your E pill contained lots of amphetamines and MDA or maybe your MDMA wasnt pure

[Revancheshepherd]

Originally Posted by gibsonUSA

swims done e a few times and had great times. swim also just did pure MDMA and didn't have as good a time. it just wasn't as intense as the E. any reasons why or pointers??

MDMA is short for Methylenedioxymethamphetamine

this is the chemical that is known for its empathy and high.

Ecstasy is a tablet sold at raves and clubs across the world supposedly containing MDMA, but may happen to contain many other ingredients.

Ecstasy tablets are notorious for containing Amphetamines and other stimulants and even may contain things such as novacaine.
www.ecstasydata.org

I suggest you use this source to ensure a more healthier consumption if one plans to do so.

[ljfe]

SWIY could have taken an E pill with DXM or any other drug.

[enquirewithin]

Whilst many "E's" are MDMA (with perhaps caffeine added) some are not. These are examples from the DEA in the past few month

BZP+caffeine

The tablet was 9 millimeters in diameter by 3 millimeters thick, and weighed 290 milligrams. Analysis by color testing (Marquis and Methedrine) and GC/MS, however, indicated not MDMA but rather benzyl piperazine (BZP), methamphetamine, and caffeine in an approximate 300:6:85 ratio (based on the TIC; not formally quantitated). This was the first submission of BZP in any form to the laboratory.

MDMA+meth+caffeine+procaine+1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-propanol

The tablets were approximately 8 millimeters in diameter, with a round base flat on one side and a six sided pyramid shape on the other side. Analysis of the tablets (total net mass 3.81 grams) by color tests, TLC, and GC/MS indicated MDMA, methamphetamine, caffeine, procaine, and 1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-propanol in an approximate ratio of 24:12:50:12:2 (based on the TIC; not formally quantitated).

heroin+cocaine+caffeine

The tablets had no logo, but were beveled. Analysis of the tablets (total net mass 5.1 grams) by color testing (cobalt thiocyanate and Marquis), GC, and GC/MS, however, indicated not MDMA but rather a mixture of heroin (approximately 2 percent), cocaine (approximately 1 percent), and caffeine (not quantitated).

What people are doing making such pills, who knows?

This doesn't mean that so-called pure MDMA is really pure. It's very easy to mix a white powder with another one!


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[JDreaming]

Saying "MDMA isn't as good as ecstacy" is like saying "cooked bread isn't as good as toast".

Sorry to poke fun, Gibson. Your friend's E is probably methamp or somesuch. Pity.

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Very good comment

[enquirewithin]

MDMA is "Ecstasy"-- it's supposed to be, anyway.

[meep]

Maybe the MDMA was of a crap quality?

[MJDW]

When the op. is referring to ecstasy, he's referring to the majority of pills which are (at least in my Ducks experience), mostly amphetamine + MDMA.

When SWIM used to frequently buy ecstasy almost a year ago (he doesn't pop anymore), he usually decided what type of high he wanted. If he planned to take it at school, he'd get ecstasy (which was always amphetamine + MDMA), which was a hyper high, where he'd talk fast and run around socializing. If he planned to take it at home, late at night, relaxing, talking on the phone with his girlfriend, he'd buy MDMA.

They're both great, but it really depends on your planned setting while taking them. And yes, they really are totally different highs.

[Zaprenz]

SWIM gets very annoyed when people say things like "MDMA is so much better than ecstasy" which seems a very commmon trend these days and a rather stupid comment.

Unless you are actually testing using GCMS etc you can't reliably say MDMA crystals are pure. There is usually an inert chemical of some kind which will mimic the look and feel of a powder/crystal even if it's there as an inert cutting agent. Phenacetin for example is used to cut cocaine.

"pills" make it much easier to add ingredients that mimic/add to the effects rather than the look of the powder/crystal but why don't people refer to them as just that - PILLS. A suitably vague factual description of an unknown rather than destroying the meaning of the word ecstasy in the drug context.

[London_Bloke]

There are a lot of variables here:

First off, SWIY didn't discuss how much was taken, such as: was it consumed on an empty stomach, etc? There are a myriad of reasons why sometimes it "feels" different than other times. According to the pill reports I see, precious few pills contain pure MDMA and nothing else but binding agents - not when they can flesh out a pill with a half dozen different (cheaper fillers) and unless you're prepared to pull out the marquis and mecke tests, who knows? A test kit is SO worth having. The best $40 SWIY ever spend.

Methbombs ARE the rule, not the expectation. MDMA is supposed to be the active ingredient in crystal, pills, capsules. Research is the key.

[Panthers007]

Yup. Meth is so much cheaper (and easier) to synthesize than actual MDMA. And so many young people these days wouldn't know the difference between the now-proverbial 'apple and lampshade.' Quite unfortunate.

Get a test-kit - at least. You'll thank yourself.

[t00cr4zy]

Well everyone else already said it, in a perfect world E would be MDMA, but it could be anything, but since you say SWIY didn't like the MDMA as much as the E, that leads me to believe either SWIY likes speed(meth) more than XTC, or SWIY got MDA; which SWIM likes better than MDMA and lasts longer.

Or SWIY didn't get pure MDMA, could have been anything, maybe even an RC, wouldn't want to venture a guess without a description of the product and its affects.

[t00cr4zy]

And please don't propagate the myth that rolls can contain heroin, 5.1 grams is not a "tablet"

[Ikku]

If you look at the picture, there are 18 and a half pills that have a net mass of 5.1 grams. Which suggests an average of 275mg per pill.

[t00cr4zy]

Sorry, didn't look at the pics, just assumed it was a sig heh. In that case, each pill would contain 5.5 mg of heroin, not even close to enough to produce ANY effects oraly, you would have to eat all 18 just to get high.

[Feelingood]

SWIM personally hates buying pills. After swim had a horrible roll one time, he got a kit. its amazing whats in those babies. SWIM'd prefer pure power himself, if i want a speedy roll, ill combine them myself. Though the best roll SWIMs ever had (MASSIVE PILLS) contained high mdma, mda, and amazingly ketamine(not very cost effective). Test kits can save ur ass, once had a pill containing fentanyl. Had a damn good time on that one, but probaly wouldve been in trouble if he took his usual dose. Be very careful with street pills.