Dealing with Opiate withdrawl, How to Advice

[neversummer]

the only way to cure opiate withdrawl is, another opiate.. but you can treat the symptoms. This is mainly for people going cold turkey, and feel free to add. Remember, the more you sleep, the less you have to suffer the symptoms. I WOULD NOT recommend using all of the drugs listed at the same time, and check for drug interactions.

Body pains: - anti-inflammatory pain killer such as ibuprofen
- Muscle relaxant such as flexeril (only if you dont care about
using another addicting drug)
- Soma (helps sleep in larger doses, relaxes body)


Insomnia: - diphenhydramine (Benadryl) 50mg to start
- Sleeping pills such as ambien
- Melatonin

Diarrhea/cramps: - Imodium AD
- Pepto Bismal

Anxiety/tension: - Benzos such as xanax/valium (can be habbit forming)

Runny nose/eyes: - Benadryl and Claritin D (Only helps a little)

[basehead801]

Props on this post!



SWIM uses almost the same exact drugs to help ease opiate wd. For the anxiety though, SWIM likes valium over xanax by far. Valium makes him more relaxed, where as xanax makes him want to get smashed drunk and do something stupid.

[jerbles]

It really won't matter what sleep aids you take. If one's going through serious withdrawls they will NOT be able to sleep no matter what. SWIMs tried everything (in large doses) Ambien, Soma, Unisom (a very good OTC sleepaid), and everything else you could think of. And two benadryl (50mg) really won't do sh!t.

All i'm saying is there's lots of ways to supposedly ease the pain of withdrawls, and swims tried all of them, but nothing's ever worked for swim. Xanax/Valium just make swim withdrawl worse, and make him feel extremely hopeless/lost. The fact is, Tramadol is the only med that isn't an opiate that will help, and it helps a lot in high doeses, but not near as much as methadon, suboxone.

[sterling77]

Tramadol and kratom, ashwagandha could also be used.

Chronic treatment with Withania somnifera (Ws) (family: Solanaceae, 100 mg/kg) commercial root extract followed by saline on days 1-9 failed to produce any significant change in tailflick latency from the saline pretreated group in mice. However, repeated administration of Ws (100 mg/kg) for 9 days attenuated the development of tolerance to the analgesic effect of morphine (10 mg/kg). Ws (100 mg/kg) also suppressed morphine-withdrawal jumps, a sign of the development of dependence to opiate as assessed by naloxone (2 mg/kg) precipitation withdrawal on day 10 of testing.

[pixplzthx]

One of the things that I didn't see mentioned that has worked for the kid around the corner:

Showers. Lots and lots of hot showers.

Granted it is very temporary relief but TKATC seems to like them.

[neversummer]

Everything I listed above has helped me to some degree, plus the showers, and if you take enough benzos or soma you WILL fall asleep

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Ofcourse one can not just go in a convenience store and buy benzos.No prescription,no connection to anyone with them.Swiy is in for a hard journey.

[Wflash]

After the first couple of days (where nothing helps) I find that getting drunk really does ease the pressure. The only danger is if your at home at opiates are only a phone call away. Whisky is not renowned for bolstering your will power to deny yourself pleasures.

[jerbles]

Any drugs eases withdrawls, but not many truly help make swiy feel better. Non-opiates that work are tramadol and kratom.

SWIMs found that cocaine, helps quite a bit, as it eliminates the extreme tiredness. It's shitty how fucking tired SWIM gets when sick, but can't get a wink of sleep.

And hot showers do help temporarily (swim finds bathes to be better due to leg cramps), but getting out of the shower swim always gets really cold and goosebumps all over.

[BakaBilly]

Originally Posted by pixplzthx

One of the things that I didn't see mentioned that has worked for the kid around the corner:

Showers. Lots and lots of hot showers.

Granted it is very temporary relief but TKATC seems to like them.

SWIM swears by hot showers for his IBS/IBD flare ups. And SWIMS flare ups mimmick very much the internal body pains that come with withdrawl. When SWIM is going through W/D he not only has to deal with the pains of not having the drug he also has to deal with the pains his disease already gives him.

And hot showers by far are up there in terms of releif.

When SWIM wakes up in the morn he has a BM that is followed by extreme pain and nausea. Directly after said BM he hits the shower.

Nightmare episodes see SWIM taking many many hot showers. Alot of time to the point of running out of hot water. On these occasions SWIM has taken to hitting the hot tub. Its a pain getting there but once there releif is pretty immediate. Thing is the hot water trick really only works while hes under the water. As soon as it stops the pain comes back.

Something SWIM has tried recently is taking hot showers and suddenly turning the hot water off. The shock of the instant cold is enough to make SWIM forget his pains completley for the 10 seconds he stands under the cold water (SWIM is a wuss and cant handle longer than that in the cold.)

Also another thing SWIM tried was going from the hot tub to the cold pool and back. And then back and forth for awhile.

As long as SWIM was swimming (lol) he never really could feel the pains. And when he did start to feel the pain he would just go back to the hot tub.

Now SWIM doesnt really recommend the above because from what hes heard this is actually bad for you. But when you hurt you hurt and anything to make it go away is help indeed.

Anyways. This was too long of a post when all SWIM really wanted to say is that for his IBS/IBD he swears by hot showers. And figures since the symptoms are very similar it should work a bit on withdrawl symptoms.

[oxycontinuosly]

anybodt heaerd of clonidine? swim says that with motrin 600 for aches and some immodium and gravol...and you all set to go

[JaWill88]

has anyone here successfully used kratom? swim has heard of one persons withdrawal completely gone with kratom. could anyone elaborate? how much does it help? to what extent and what symptoms does it help with?

[someguy1]

SWIM says Clonidine and Zanaflex will do the trick. Clonidine is especially useful in counteracting the cold sweats some people get during withdrawal. The combination of the two drugs should help SWIY sleep as both can cause drowsiness.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

If swiy is that much of an addict,as much of one as swim then swiy will have a long road ahead with many unsuccessful attempts to quit.Swim's advice...find a doctor that prescribes suboxone.This might be a life saver.

[jerbles]

tramadol helps as much as methadone or anything for swim. I'd definately recommend it.

[BakaBilly]

Originally Posted by oxycontinuosly

anybodt heaerd of clonidine? swim says that with motrin 600 for aches and some immodium and gravol...and you all set to go

SWIM missed an apt. hence voiding the contract. SWIM will lose his oxy script and has to take this clonidine after a week of tapering the oxy.

SWIM cant beleive they are only giving him a week! :*(

[kratom_]

Originally Posted by jerbles

. The fact is, Tramadol is the only med that isn't an opiate that will help, and it helps a lot in high doeses, but not near as much as methadon, suboxone.

i dont believe what u say about tremadol swims been hooked on viks and trems, and loves opiates, and loves tremadol and actualy thinks its worse for wds i mean its addicting as hell and it is an opiate swim hasnt been doing viks in forever but has been doing a shit load of trems and believe it or not today hes withdrawling.

[kratom_]

eveyones sayiong tremadol helps!! sure it will take the wds right away till the tremadol runs out!!!

kratom for 1 mounth and valiums after that should work good

please somone tell us tremadols a painkiller cuz i sware to god they feel like one and there are addicting as all hell, out of the two pks swims done trems and viks trems gives him mad dope sickness

[jerbles]

yeah, it is an opiate, kind of. It's more of an opiate relative, but SWIM thinks it works exactly like an opiate, and would have assumed it was if he hadn't researched it a little.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Unless swiy has a relatively minor habit tramadol is gonna be worthless.A few weeks ago swim was going through withdrawals and he took about eight tramadols.It helped alright,for about ten minutes.

[jerbles]

SWIM has had a relatively heavy habit for about six years and 600-700mg and up always makes swim feel perfectly fine.

[china cat]

swim has been addicted to heroin for the past 15 years..........apart from other opiates like codeine, methadone etc etc nothing, absolutely nothing touches a serious bout of cold turkey......valium makes swim feel even worse and that's if he can keep the pills down long enough, can't even think of smoking weed, drinking booze and as for taking a shower!!!.....even the thought of water on my skin makes me feel sick. I know it's a cliche but the only cure for w/d is time and that tends to be running an hour for every minute. The only certainty is that all the pleasure involved in a serious heroin addiction has to be paid for by the pain of withdrawal....anyway that's the way I see it. After the worst pain has gone (about a week) then yeah a bit of weed or a bottle of vodka or two can help but be careful what you use as a substitute.

[jerbles]

swim has been addicted to heroin for the past 15 years..........apart from other opiates like codeine, methadone etc etc nothing, absolutely nothing touches a serious bout of cold turkey......valium makes swim feel even worse and that's if he can keep the pills down long enough, can't even think of smoking weed, drinking booze and as for taking a shower!!!.....even the thought of water on my skin makes me feel sick. I know it's a cliche but the only cure for w/d is time and that tends to be running an hour for every minute. The only certainty is that all the pleasure involved in a serious heroin addiction has to be paid for by the pain of withdrawal....anyway that's the way I see it. After the worst pain has gone (about a week) then yeah a bit of weed or a bottle of vodka or two can help but be careful what you use as a substitute.

Is china cat really a type of heroin. I watched an episode of New York Undercover once and this potent form of heroin called China Cat was killing people. I know it's totally off topic, but have you ever heard of it?

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim doubts its real.The media just loves to exagerate the dangers of heroin more so than with most any other drug.Swim isn't sure why this is.Crystal meth and alcohol are both far more destructive than any opiate.

[jerbles]

Seeing that screen name just reminded me of watching that episode, and I remember thinking it was weird that they called it china cat rather than china white.