Some general advice wanted on saliva Divinorum

[JKLJKLJKL]

Before SWIM begins, he has read a lot on salvia already, but can't seem to find answers to the specific question.

He is about to begin trying salvia, he has bought some of the internet as he doens't know where else to acquire it in the UK. He has 12g of 'fresh leaf', SWIM understands that the extracts are a lot stronger than the leaf, and has read he may not even get anything from salvia leaf.

SWIM was wondering how much he should smoke first, he knows the way to smoke it, but how many leaves (SWIM hasn;t got it yet so doesn't know what 12g of leaf looks like) or how many grams roughly. SWIM read somewhere about 0.1-0.2g SWIM presumes this is the extract?

SWIM looks forward to his first salvia experience and hearing back from SWIY all.

[JKLJKLJKL]

One more quick thing (couldn't find edit button).
If Swim doesnt get anything from it, is it worth making an extract himself or not, SWIM has a naturally high tolerane to weed and ket, and has done acid once and that didn't do that much. SWIM hopes that his high tolerance won't be affected when concerning salvia.

So if it doesn't work, should SWIM get rid of and find some extract?

Also SWIM's friend does not smoke, but is interested in salvia, will the quidding (if that is what chewing was called) work with leaf as well?

Thanks

[Mint boi]

right, swim would try at least 1/2 gram of fresh leaf first time, people can find it pretty hard to break through with leaf, so making an extract might be the way to go, its not that hard to do and there are some good methods on this forum!

With the quid method, it can be kind of hard to gauge the dose, swim would start with maybe 5grams. And it might be a good idea, if the leaves aren't entirely fresh, to soak them in a little bit of water for 5 min to rehydrate them before quidding!

[senorsalvia]

Why not make an extract of your leaf before even trying to smoke the leaf??? It's very easy to make such a product and if you turn out to be a "hardhead", you will have a much better chance of gaining liftoff from your extract than from plain leaf......

[JKLJKLJKL]

SWIM wants to try leaf to begin with, just to see if it will have effect, but if not he'll go for extract next time.

One more question, does it need to be smoked in a bong or a pipe, or can it be rolled into a joint, if so, how would that be done? SWIM has seen pre-rolled 'salvia joints' for sale on various websites, but was sure he was you couldnt get as much from it when smoking it in a joint.

Thanks for advice

[JKLJKLJKL]

Nevermind about the joint thing SWIM just found the section on it in erowid's FAQ.

Thanks for SWIY help.

[Mint boi]

Nooo a joint is a huge waste! you need to blast it in a bong or pipe, make sure to burn it really really well too, keep the flame on the material all throughout smoking! and inhale as much as you can as fast as you can and hold for as long as you can.

Edit: posted as i was replying!^^^^^^