opiate withdrawal?

[crizzle]

swim has allowed himself to get a little out of control. just a little. over the past two weeks swim has been taking oxcodone daily, from about 10mg 3x/day to 20mg 4x/day. the last 3 days swim began taking adderall to study, and got carried away with insufflating 60-120mg/day. 48 hours ago swim took his last dose of opiates, only 25mg hydrocodone and stopped the adderall also yesterday he was extremely lethargic, and the previous night he was a bit cold-sweat feverish like but not much. swim is feeling very lethargic today, and found out it is a symptom of the adderal possible. swim just took 20 mg oral parachute so that he could get off his ass to do his hw. swim would like to come off these substances, but is not sure what it is that is giving him this extreme lethargy, like all he wants to do is sleep all the time. swim was thinking of taking 10mg oxycodone here and there to feel better, because he is also slightly depressed. swim would like some help on what to do. swim thanks all in advance.

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[crizzle]

sorry swim wasnt sure if it would be clearly understood that he is not sure what is causing these symptoms.

[Ellis D.]

usually if it's opiate withdrawl sleep will not come. Sounds to SWIM like you might have had a tiny bit of opiate withdrawl that first day and now your body and brain is depleted of it's necisary chems and is just trying to catch up. but SWIM has never been able to sleep withdrawing, if anything SWIM feels antsy and can't settle down.

Oxy and Addies will do that to you, fro SWIM they both get him going, so if he does either for a few days in a row, he is very un-motivated and no intrested in much without them for a few days. It sucks but it will pass, at least it does for SWIM. It just makes it really hard to get though the work week.

[pixplzthx]

It sounds like swiy is going to have a rough next couple of days. Take lots of showers.

I've read that your body starts craving the drug in a just a few days of regular use. I can't really gauge how bad swiy's withdrawls will be but I doubt swi-you'll be shivering in the corner of a small room waiting to die.

For the most part swi-you'll just need to get some sleep. Try a regular OTC sleeping aid and/or melatonin.

[merc11292]

swims heard loperamide helps with withdrawl symtoms, smoking kratom, or swiy can just slowly stop the opiates, chop down the doses, just too not feel like crap not to get a high. swim doesnt kno what adderall withdrawl's like though just ritalin and it aint fun.

[jerbles]

SWIM never really encounter mild withdrawls until recently (having come off heroin for a couple months and getting back on), and they're really not bad at all. A lot of the same symptoms, only very mild (intestinal cramps but no diahrea), watery eyes/runny nose still, mild anxiety. Sleep actually comes very easily as well.

So if you're going through mild withdrawls like this, for god's sake just ride it out for the 2-3 days that they last rather than digging the hole deeper and deeper.

SWIMs had to go through HEAVY opiate withdrawls a large part of his life, and they are NOT fun, NOT cool in anyway, even though a lot of stupid n00bs around SWIMs area think it must be cool to act like they're dopesick, it really really isn't. I can't really say that heroin (and opiates in general) isn't worth it, because SWIM wouldn't have began using it again after being free from the pain for three months if he didn't think it was, and to him, it is worth it. But that's just how great of a drug heroin is, I guess.

I really don't know whether you're having mild withdrawls or whats going on, i'm just saying, unless you're ready to rip you're f'ing hair and eyeballs out, consider yourself lucky and sleep it off while you still can.

[crizzle]

hey thanks all for the replies. swim is feeling a lot better. swim did just ride it out, sort of. swim slowly cut back on the adderall, now at only 30mg per day and swim probably could go without it but swim has 2 big tests coming up and it really helps. as for the opiates swim decided that the feeling he had was likely due to the adderall given the research he had done and decided to pick up 20 10mg vicodins 5 dasy ago to help him come off of the adderall. it helped and he still has a couple left. swim understands that there are much worse withdrawels out there, and he thanks god that he is not going through that crap. he really had no idea that amphetamines caused physical withdrawels as well as pretty bad depression, and was cough off guard by it. ellis d. you basically hit the nail on the head with the 1st day being minor opiate and the rest of the week amphetamine. swim thanks all.

[Donmeka]

weird to SWIM since he isn't a genius lol doesn't know everything he has insufflated OC(Oxycodone) on days he hasn't taken his Rx Desoxyn (D-Methamphetamine) took anything negative away and made him what he calls "normal" and for a couple days when he feels like doing Oxycodone he does what he calls his prison exercise although its a very nice prison my warden provides, it feels like one and I'm paranoid/sneaky/slick around here lol anyway everytime SWIM feels like doing OC for a couple days he will do his exercises.

[godzcamera]

Swim would say for anyone who is going threw withdrawal seriously think about using suboxone. but only use it to get you threw withdrawal . for swim after swim uses swim will take 2 2mg the day after use and then the next day 1 2mg and then the next day 1mg of suboxone to come down slowly. swiy that is climbing down a higher latter would have to start at a higher dose and most likely come down in a different way. 1 being a different dose than what swim would use being that swiy was way higher than swim. swim would suggest asking this forum for a good tapper plan from what swiy would be coming down from.

swim has used suboxone and loves the way it can bring you down. instead of falling to the floor with nothing that hurts. with suboxone its like going down a very slow elevator. or tapperin swiy with your own opiates would be like step by step on a ladder. swim finds that if swim tries with swims opiates swim at times will do good for a few days but then swim will start climbing back up the ladder. that's why swim compares suboxone with an elevator b/c once you push the button with suboxone you have no choice like in an elevator but to come down. being that you cant get high from opiates while on suboxone. unless you hit the emergency stop and use triple the amount you normally use and that even being a risk , swiy may not get high. as to were swim defines a ladder to using your own opiates b/c you can choose to climb back up when ever you choose.

Originally Posted by godzcamera

Swim would say for anyone who is going threw withdrawal seriously think about using suboxone. but only use it to get you threw withdrawal . for swim after swim uses swim will take 2 2mg the day after use and then the next day 1 2mg and then the next day 1mg of suboxone to come down slowly. swiy that is climbing down a higher latter would have to start at a higher dose and most likely come down in a different way. 1 being a different dose than what swim would use being that swiy was way higher than swim. swim would suggest asking this forum for a good tapper plan from what swiy would be coming down from.

swim has used suboxone and loves the way it can bring you down. instead of falling to the floor with nothing that hurts. with suboxone its like going down a very slow elevator. or tapperin swiy with your own opiates would be like step by step on a ladder. swim finds that if swim tries with swims opiates swim at times will do good for a few days but then swim will start climbing back up the ladder. that's why swim compares suboxone with an elevator b/c once you push the button with suboxone you have no choice like in an elevator but to come down. being that you cant get high from opiates while on suboxone. unless you hit the emergency stop and use triple the amount you normally use and that even being a risk , swiy may not get high. as to were swim defines a ladder to using your own opiates b/c you can choose to climb back up when ever you choose.

SWIM was able to get two 8 MG suboxone pills and is hoping it will be enough to keep him out of WD’s. SWIM has been using oxy just about everyday for the past three weeks, and had been using it 3 times a week for the past three mouths. Last mouth SWIM did take a three week break after a two week or so binge and was ok with no suboxone, it was mainly the lack of motivation that killed him for about a week. But now he really just wants to stop and is hoping he will have enough of the suboxone, he is planning to only take 2mg for the first four days, then take 1mg after that as needed. SWIM has been doing an average of 25mg a day for these three weeks. Maybe he will be ok and not even need it, he also has some Ativan for sleep. But what does SWIY think? Should 16mg be enough for SWIM?