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Extracted Opium Purification.
I read this awesome story about a chemist who liked to extract opium. He extracted the Opium through the well known "evaporation tea process". He had a good final product, but he desired to make his product purer. He did not remember how to do this, and asked SWIM for help.
thanks a lot - BearClaw |
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
Cool! Can you share the awesome story???
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
I think he is asking for the story
swim found this using TFSE (imagine that) Quote:
More info Quote:
This thread (Morphine Extraction from Poppy Straw) is 81 posts long, there is bound to be some more good information. |
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
True, but SWIM was hoping for an easier solution to his problem. Every time SWIM tries an ACID/BASE extraction, he fucks it up. SWIM tries so hard, but just lacks the talent too pull it off.
- ThAnks |
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40013
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
swim has read the above many times before on some website. very very interesting. not as hard as one would expect with no chemistry knowledge. especially morphine to diacetylmorphine.
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
yes, SWIM says the hard part comes from the initial precipitation itself. precipitation of morphine from the cooked opium/water solution is achieved by the use of lime and AA at certain pH levels. The tricky bit is to know how much lime to add for the facilitation of precipitation. Example: If one were to add not enough lime then not all of the morphine molecules would bond thus producing a loss. If too much was added then one would calcify the mixture rather easily and end up having to use more chloroform than necessary (dangerous). The trick to knowing "how much" is to know the approximates. Hypothetically, if One was to have opium from a strain which is known to have approximately 10% morphine content then one would know what numbers to start working with. With any procedures there are losses incurred, it is inevitable. Minimize these losses by knowing the strains and their approximates.
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
If it was really that easy every schmuck out there would be making heroin in their basements. Opium from poppy pods seems rather easy, as does morphine from opium. But by the time one refines morphine from poppy pods, wouldn't the yeild be about the same price as bought on the street?
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
doubtful since it would almost be free. The reason every "schmuck" out there isnt doing it is because of a few reasons
1: it is not well known info. 2: they are lazy heroin addicts. 3: they are too impatient to do it right and get a good result. 4: they dont know or care where the drug actually comes from. 5: they are too busy feeding a habit rather than feeding their mind with research. 6: they are broke and cannot afford poppy pods/seeds/seeds to grow from. 7: they live in apartment buildings where it is impossible to grow. 8: or, they just dont care unfortunately. 9: or, they do wish they could do it but lack the resources or skills to perform such techniques. One is NOT trying to belittle addicted peoples or offend anyone, One is merely stating the fact of how the majority of those peoples seem to be once addicted heavily. It is sad but true, SWIM used to be in the same situation and had a care factor of LESS than zero. |
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
While checking ones blood pressure and pulse while reading previous post -one agrees. Going through withdrawel is shite. Think three times of two things more important than exploring the chemical realms...
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
Hey, is SWIM the only one who's tummy gets itchy when he consumes Opium tea?
And why? |
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
"O" causes histamine release, which causes itching of the skin and nose and a mild flushing of the skin. opium / opiodes have little direct effect on the heart or blood pressure. How ever the blood pressure may fall slightly following the pain relief produced by morphine and also with the sedation which may be produced. Significant hypotension (low blood pressure) following morphine is usually due to other causes such as hypovolaemia(low blood volume) .
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
Heya, I realize this posting is horribly after the fact...but this is stuff I've been researching for quite some time, and having found a pretty informative page, and registered to pick some folk's brains, I hope to do just that! Hopefully someone knowledgeable will come along and provide me with some gewd old answers
![]() So- If trying to turn that Western European base dope into injectable/tootable eastern US dope, the kind I like and am used to, I think I understand how to follow the directions stated above. What I'm wondering however, is whether to adjust pH, which seems to be necessary, do I absolutely have to use things like KOH (POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE) and AMMONIUM CHLORIDE? I mean...... it seems to me that there's a lot of things that could be used to make the solution either more alkaline or more acid....some of which I might actually be able to come across, maybe even EASILY. I mean....ordering random loads of chemicals online isn't exactly of interest to me. Unless I'm missing something here? Do any of ya'll know where a common place to come across either of the previously mentioned ingredients, and also stuff like ETHER and HYDROCHLORIC ACID? Are any of these disguised under common names? Ya know, like sodium bicarbonate is marketed under the name baking soda, and so on? What about friggen CHLOROFORM? The fuck would I happen across shit like that in my rural ass region of the state? SODIUM CARBONATE? AND.... ALTHOUGH I HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PERFORM SUCH SCIENCE EXPERIMENTS, AND COULD DO IT IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY...IS THIS THE ONLY WAY? CHUCK A BUNCHA CHEMICALS INTO THE POT, MAYBE APPLY SOME HEAT, AND WAIT A BIT? .....NO SLIGHTLY LESS COMPLEX WAYS TO CONVERT BASE INTO HCL? ANY MORE ADVICE FROM ANYONE WHO COULD CLARIFY SUMMORE? THANKS YALL! ![]() ![]()
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
I think you answered your own question, if it just consists of "chucking" chemicals into a pot there should be no difficulty. But out of all the chemicals you will need, obtaining the AA is the major hurdle to overcome. If one could obtain this then there would be no trouble at all obtaining the other chems.
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
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Re: Extracted Opium Purification.
Acetic Andrahyde. A chemical commonly used to acetylate both organic and non-organic compounds.
Try searching the forums, it is commonly talked about. With the easy stuff it is much easier and better to search the forums and research it. Peace
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