Snorting XTC

[crushingstep7]

So my mother fucking lizard is about to pick up a hit of Triple Stack Supermans and that little Iguana would love to know, how long would the experience last if he snorted the whole thing?

SWIM says thanks.

[Petethemeat]

Insufflation (snorting) is one of the quicker ways to onset a drugs effects. One of the more novel things about MDMA is that most find that a quicker onset does not mean a bigger rush, as rushing is part of the experience whichever way you take it. This differs from drugs such as cocaine or heroin in that the quicker the onset the bigger the rush (this is why intravenous use provides the biggest peaks).

Snorting MDMA should mean the onset occurs within 20 minutes and lasts slightly less time (SWIM's guess would be a 2 hour onset and peak with a further 2 hours come down) than oral usage. Yet insufflating pills can be hazardous, as they are often cut with substances that are far more harmful snorted than taken orally, and will at the very least have inactive filler- which isnt good for your nose either.

MDMA is also quite irritating for your nose and although not unbearable, that irritation plus the horrible taste of mdma dripping down from your nose to your mouth can lead to quite an unpleasant feeling.

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[spiderpig]

Swiy can always put the pill under his tongue, a lot of blood vessels there so it's every bit as effective as snorting without the pain. Tastes very nasty though, but well worth it. Nothing that 3 soda's can't wash down. It's up to swiy. The up side is that much less mdma will be lost through the urinary tract and almost all of it will be absorbed into the blood stream.

Cheers

[Nagognog2]

I'd like to point out that "triple stack" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. It used to mean something - but no more. And lord knows what they are cut with. Snorting them may result in a stuffed nose and a sneezing fit to make the Guiness Book of Records. One would be advised to simply crush 'em, mix with a little water, and gulp. On an empty stomach (no solid foods for 4 hours - at least).

[spiderpig]

Last time swim crushed a pill and dissolved it in water he tripped out very much, things began to feel way to sureal and distant.

[crushingstep7]

Yea, the Triple/Double stack thing is definately bullshit, but thanks a lot for the heads up. And yea I think my lizard should go with the under the tongue method.

[crushingstep7]

Ok, so my lizard got the E today and him and his friend took half a pill each (never done any real X before, so they have low tolerance and whatnot) at around 7:00pm and put it under their tongues..

Right now it's 8:21 and they don't feel anything. What went wrong? Just too low of a dose?

[Euphoric]

Probably too low a dose. Though SWIY's precaution is good. It's very rare that a single pill that contains actual MDMA would present any OD danger for anyone that isn't allergic to the substance or the filler. For best results, SWIY should wait at least a week in case the amount ingested this time around had minor effects of the serotonin levels. When and if SWIY decides to try again a single pill should do. Then again, they could be bunk pills and should be tested. If they're real, one pill should do it.

[crushingstep7]

Alright, thanks.

How much exactly should my lizard have felt off that half??
All he felt was a little excitement, some blurry-ish visuals, and he felt some appreciation towards music...

does that sound reasonable??

[Euphoric]

Oh there were effects? How long did they last? Did the lizard have dilated pupils? Notice dry mouth or thirst? That description doesn't sound unreasonable for a low dose of E. But it's impossible to say what one should have felt. But if the lizard takes a whole one in over a weeks time the effects of half seem to suggest that the lizard will have quite a pleasant experience.

[crushingstep7]

Um, yea the lizard's friend experienced light dry mouth, and no I didn't check the lizard's pupils. But the effects only lasted about an hour or so, with the peak of the effects around 30 minutes in.

And will these effects/sensations be 'doubled'? Because my lizard doesn't think it would be that great if they were.. maybe he was just expecting more. All this stuff he hears about "four hour full body orgasms" and stuff like that... My lizard doesn't know if that's what would really happen on one whole pill.

[Euphoric]

It's more like there's a magic spot, the "just right" dosage. Double dose does not always equal double effects. I forget what the effect is called, but it's like the idea that when you turn a light on in a pitch black room, there is a profound difference. However as you turn on more lights of equal power, the effect of the extra light is less and less noticeable. Users rarely report that 4 pills are better than one, and once the right dose is found, anything above usually just increases the negative effects. The sweet spot is usually found within 1-2 pills, or ideally about 125mg of pure MDMA.
And don't let other peoples reports (although useful) effect SWIY too much. It's best just to go into the experience with an open mind and observe for SWIYourself the effects, as everyone reacts differently.
If SWIY is sure these are real, and one pill doesn't work the next time, then take a month or more off and try two.
Or if the lizard has reliable friends that roll they can perhaps recommend pills of a higher quality.

[crushingstep7]

K, sounds like I got my answers.

Thanks alot.

[capn_pimppin]

so would snorting E be alot worse than, say, 5 vicodin? and if so, by how much?

[capn_pimppin]

Originally Posted by spiderpig

Swiy can always put the pill under his tongue, a lot of blood vessels there so it's every bit as effective as snorting without the pain. Tastes very nasty though, but well worth it. Nothing that 3 soda's can't wash down. It's up to swiy. The up side is that much less mdma will be lost through the urinary tract and almost all of it will be absorbed into the blood stream.

Cheers

less MDMA is lost by under tongue or snorting?

[spiderpig]

not really sure, then again whatever doesn't absorb under the tongue gets swallowed so u wont lose much if u do

[Petethemeat]

Originally Posted by spiderpig

not really sure, then again whatever doesn't absorb under the tongue gets swallowed so u wont lose much if u do

surely it is the same in regards to snorting?

[Euphoric]

If one snorts then there's a chance that not all of what is being snorted will reach its destination. It could get stuck in nose hairs or boogers or other things that will keep it from the bloodstream.

[spiderpig]

Ya, and snorting hurts like hell. Not the sorta thing swim likes to feel while rolling. Swim also got a sketchy pill once and put half of it under his tongue, he got something similar to a chemical burn, or it might have just been some sharp edges. The point is if swim would have snorted that pill it would be much worse.

[crushingstep7]

Yea, SWIM put it under his tongue and it tasted like sh*t (are we allowed to swear?) but it'd definately better than snorting.. because, yes, snorting hurts like a mofo.
There's no way SWIM could snort a whole pill and not take his own life within minutes lol

[spiderpig]

Completely off topic, but i was just curious if anyone knew the legal status of methylone in canada, swim heard its very similar to mdma but less potent.

[Petethemeat]

From what SWIM has tried, snorting pure MDMA is not that painful, yet rather irritating and horrible to taste when it drips down the throat. I would imagine most of the pain to come from the cut or the inactive binders present in a pill.

[Nagognog2]

Best advice: Find pure MDMA crystal/powder. Weigh 120mg. Take orally on empty stomach. One hour later - if all is well - take another 40mg. End it right there. That's the MDMA trip. Like it? Wait at least a week before repeating.

With pills you don't know what the heck you got. And buying a test kit is a very good idea. Otherwise you are relying on the taste and financial desires of the manufacturer. Most chemists are not into creating this for enlightenment - they want your money.

You want MDMA mixed with methamphetamine - do it yourself. Some MDA? Go find it. MDMA? Seek the pure molecule. And go slow. Taking it all the time will fry you, and you'll be back here asking advice of how to recover.

[M3th]

My little hobo friend usually rolls for atleast 8 hours.. than come down... As he pops the first tab.. Snorts the next two over three hours.. While popping any free ones he can come across from the club goers.. Then chews how ever many more he has.. Usually likes to keep it down to around 6. Sometimes over 8.

[crushingstep7]

Yea, I wish SWIM could find some Mali but SWIM is only 16 and doesn't have the best hookups... but SWIM has to try that for sure.

SWIM was also wondering, how many times per month should a person use X? SWIM set his limit to once per month. Is it ok to do any more than that?